Got a link for those stats?
17.7 million left to spend....what do you hope the Cardinals do with the remaining monies?
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You need a source to show you that players cut during training camp are usually not good?
The bit where we were 10-2. The downturn clearly starts in week 14.
No. Both things can't be true.
"Over half the season they weren't good" is flat out wrong.
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Playing the new Madden made me realize how barren our d-line is. We need a d-lineman in a bad way.
"Down the Stretch" is a sports idiom that means towards the end of the game or sports season. It originated from horse racing. Dave Johnson would famously call "AND down the STRETCH they come" in that last straightaway known as the home stretch. That last straightaway is approximately the last eighth of the track.
So I would say "down the stretch" for a football season would be the last 2-3 games of the season.
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I think they should give the money to me. I'm happy, you will be happy for me, and we won't have to argue about which players we get
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
We finished the season 4-7. Spin it how you will.
Stout
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That just makes it worse, finishing 4-7.
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We were 4-7 for the last 61% of the season. That’s more than half of the season. And during that “not good” stretch, got killed OFTEN during the lost to bad/atrocious teams.
How is that not “not good”?
The reality is they were amazing for 7 games and then they were just bad for the last 11. You can’t argue with a 4-7 record which encompasses the majority of games played.
You are literally spinning it by including a stretch of games from week 8 to week 12 that we went 3-2. By including games from a span where we were 10-2. Games where we beat the Niners and Seahawks on the road with no Nuk and Kyler.
I know the darksiders love a nice big ol' plate of crap to feast on but this is a new low. Pure rewriting of history.
Was it not bad enough for y'all that we sucked through the last 5 that you had to extend it to "over half the season"?
We were 10-2 for the first 70% of the season.
I win. 70% beats 61%. See how this works?
Or maybe there were 7 games we were great. 5 games we were still good, especially considering the injuries we had and 5 games were were mostly horrible.
But "most of the season we weren't good" is pure delusion.
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
We went from 7-0 to 11-7, including that playoff drubbing. That is a terrible collapse that encompassed a 4-7 finish over 11 games. Who cares if we had a barely above .500 stretch in there. 4-7 over 11 games. See how that works?
Yeah I see how it works. I see you are taking a stretch we had a 60% winning record (60% = 10+ wins) and tagging it on to stretch we had a 20% winning record so you can fabricate an idea that we were "not good for over half the season".
Serious dude, I really do like you and appreciate your opinions, but this is a whole new level of delusion I think best dropped. It's weird.
Stout
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I don't agree with you (it's clearly not just me, either) so I'm deluded. Not only am I deluded, it's a new level of delusion, connoting I've been delusional before. You're not being very clever in trying to be insulting here. The arrogance is appalling.
What's delusional is acknowledging we lost almost twice as many games as we won for over half the season and trying to spin that in a positive way. Sure, if you look at 10-2 in a vacuum, fans would snap your hand off to be at that record again this season--without knowing the rest of the story. The rest of the story sucked, and it started well before the 13th game with a drubbing by the Carolina Panthers. Unless you think the division is won mid-season, the "accomplishment" you're crowing about means absolutely nothing.
This is why IDGAF how good we look early in the season, or in the middle of the season. I'll be happy, sure, but I'll temper that enthusiasm because we have been burnt to a crisp before. Until this team shows me it can do literally anything in a clinching game, I will doubt them.
I mean there is you, and there is Cheesebeef, hardly a consensus.
It's evident from your previous post you are twisting facts. You say "barely above 50%" when we went 60% between 8 and 12. That's playoff form.
You win 3 out of 5 all season and you make the playoffs.
So to you, a 12 game stretch that was playoff form all the way is now only a 7 game stretch that was good and the other 9 game run was bad? This is delusion.
But let's see.
Let's have a poll.
I really can't think of anyone decent but Marcus Peters who might be available by trade. It's not like the league is dripping with quality starter CB's to the point teams can spare one. If anything most teams are weak at the position.
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
lol We had a 4-7 stretch, which is the majority of the games in the season. That is far from playoff form, and happens to be the last 11 games of the season. Facts. The only delusion is that you're trying to bury the old saying "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."
So, instead of saying agree to disagree, I will say let's agree to migrate this discussion to the brand new poll thread you started lol
And, because we're both fans, Let's Go Cards!
Stout
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Great, let's burn even more draft capital! Who needs draft picks when Steve Keim is the GM?
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Cincy finished their last 10 games at ......5-5
SF had a 4-6 stretch during the season
KC had a 2-4 stretch during the season
as noted, Rams had a 4-4 stretch
of course, those teams had playoff runs that made those stretches distant memory.
Does parsing records during stretches of the season mean anything, or predict anything for this coming season?
I think it only matters if wins were run up against terrible teams or by one score while losses were to good competition / multiple scores.
That wasn't the case with the Cards last year.
for me, I wont fully trust this team until they play well in the playoffs. im still optimistic though
SF had a 4-6 stretch during the season
KC had a 2-4 stretch during the season
as noted, Rams had a 4-4 stretch
of course, those teams had playoff runs that made those stretches distant memory.
Does parsing records during stretches of the season mean anything, or predict anything for this coming season?
I think it only matters if wins were run up against terrible teams or by one score while losses were to good competition / multiple scores.
That wasn't the case with the Cards last year.
for me, I wont fully trust this team until they play well in the playoffs. im still optimistic though
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
The first is a very good point, and the latter is a well-stated opinion, IMO. What I and others find concerning about last season--specifically the latter half of the season--is the trend it seems to represent. I'm hoping we break that trend this season, but we tend to fade. On your second bolded point, I'm half in agreement. I won't fully trust this team for a long time. Unfortunately, I'm pessimistic about our chances. Shocking, I know
kerouac9
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Imagine deciding to voluntarily stake out the position than the end of the Cards 2022 season Wasn’t That Bad If You Think About It.
Imagine.
Imagine.
Who said that?
Johnny venerable came up with another. Greedy Williams.
Only started 8 games last year despite playing in all. they have Ward and Newsome. they like martin Emerson they just drafted in the 3rd. They have safeties that can play Nickel too. They also have AJ Green.
Williams has been the odd man out there and after 2 season they could well look to recoup something and move on.
