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Redsz said:
IF we are looking for a QB in 06', I would go with the afore mentioned Omar Jacobs.

4000+ yds, 66.9%, 41 TD's and only 4 interceptions. :eek:

What conference did he play in?
 

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What conference did he play in?

Bowling Green - The MAC Confrence.

And he is a junior this year.
 

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Has anyone even really see Jacobs play? He's already my most overrated player in the draft(if he declares). He plays in an offensive system like they run at Texas Tech so he's going to put up big numbers.He plays in the worst defensive conference in the NCAA.His mechanics are horrible,it's like he shot puts the ball.The QB before him also put up very big numbers in college and he was late round draft pick that has already been cut and is now battling to make the Browns as 3rd QB.He is big and athletic but i wouldn't touch the guy in the first 3 rounds unless Denny wants another good basketball player at QB.But,Green knows QB's so i can't see him even considering Jacobs in round 1.
 

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Boy, I sure wouldn't mind seeing Casey Hampton eating up the middle of the field for the Cards as they enter the new building...
 

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I don't understand how Antonio Smith, Larry Croom, Adrian Mayes and Leon Joe make the RFA list. They were all rookies last year. They should be EFA's at best, depending on how many games they were listed on the 53 man roster and whether they signed one, two or three year contracts. They won't be RFA's until after the 2006 season at the earliest.
 

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Cbus cardsfan said:
Has anyone even really see Jacobs play? He's already my most overrated player in the draft(if he declares). He plays in an offensive system like they run at Texas Tech so he's going to put up big numbers.He plays in the worst defensive conference in the NCAA.His mechanics are horrible,it's like he shot puts the ball.The QB before him also put up very big numbers in college and he was late round draft pick that has already been cut and is now battling to make the Browns as 3rd QB.He is big and athletic but i wouldn't touch the guy in the first 3 rounds unless Denny wants another good basketball player at QB.But,Green knows QB's so i can't see him even considering Jacobs in round 1.

agreed, I saw him play once and came away totally unimpressed, very weird throwing motion, doesn't follow through. Considering they play in the MAC you can't totally discount him after Leftwich and Roethlisberger, but both those guys have big time cannon arms, Jacobs from what I saw is not close to them as a passer.
 

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Rocco said:
I don't understand how Antonio Smith, Larry Croom, Adrian Mayes and Leon Joe make the RFA list. They were all rookies last year. They should be EFA's at best, depending on how many games they were listed on the 53 man roster and whether they signed one, two or three year contracts. They won't be RFA's until after the 2006 season at the earliest.

Just made a mistake in my program I have set up. Data Entry Error in how many accured season each has.

Plus Joe shouldnt be on the list any where as his contract runs through 2007. And Crooms runs through 2006.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see us take a look at Archuleta since he is a valley product and I hope he get either Hampton or Pickett on the other side of Dockett. Then take the best QB available in the 1st round.
 

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overseascardfan said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see us take a look at Archuleta since he is a valley product

That doesnt mean jack to this coaching staff.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see us take a look at Archuleta since he is a valley product and I hope he get either Hampton or Pickett on the other side of Dockett. Then take the best QB available in the 1st round.

I would, considering that Archuleta stinks and isn't half the player that Adrian Wilson is (psst--they play the same position).
 

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kerouac9 said:
I would, considering that Archuleta stinks and isn't half the player that Adrian Wilson is (psst--they play the same position).
Agreed. I don't wish any bad on the guy (even though I think that he's an arogant ass) but I give him two more years before he's out of the NFL. He's never going to fully recover from those bulging discs playing a violent sport.
 

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Boy, I sure wouldn't mind seeing Casey Hampton eating up the middle of the field for the Cards as they enter the new building...

Just to give you a little hope on getting Hampton. The Steelers feel that their D didnt miss a beat with Hampton out with injury last year for some time, and they have a pretty good case. Becuase of that, rumor is they may not make a hard run for Hampton in the 2006 offseason and will rather go with a cheaper alternative. Especially with big money needing to go to Ward who will also be a FA and they also want to upgrade their CB position which will take some big bucks as well.
 

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Every one of you talking 2006 draft before the 2005 season has been played gets one of these.

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AzCards21 said:
Every one of you talking 2006 draft before the 2005 season has been played gets one of these.

:trout:

:)

Why becuase there is oh so much else to talk about right now.

I raise your trout slap and give you the moon.

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joeshmo said:
Just to give you a little hope on getting Hampton. The Steelers feel that their D didnt miss a beat with Hampton out with injury last year for some time, and they have a pretty good case. Becuase of that, rumor is they may not make a hard run for Hampton in the 2006 offseason and will rather go with a cheaper alternative. Especially with big money needing to go to Ward who will also be a FA and they also want to upgrade their CB position which will take some big bucks as well.
The guy is a beast in the middle. Too bad he will command a lot of money that the Cards won't even look at his way. :(
 

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azdad1978 said:
The guy is a beast in the middle. Too bad he will command a lot of money that the Cards won't even look at his way. :(

We would probably offer as much as we did to Okeafer and Berry. About 5 mill. a year. That may be enough, especially with the positives of playing next to Dockett, Berry, and Okeafer. Playing in a brand new stadium, and maybe playing for an up and coming playoff team.

But we would have to give him more upfront money then we did Okeafer or Berry, thats for sure. And with the wealth of teams moving to the 3-4 lately there may will be a bidding war.
 

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joeshmo said:
Just to give you a little hope on getting Hampton. The Steelers feel that their D didnt miss a beat with Hampton out with injury last year for some time, and they have a pretty good case. Becuase of that, rumor is they may not make a hard run for Hampton in the 2006 offseason and will rather go with a cheaper alternative. Especially with big money needing to go to Ward who will also be a FA and they also want to upgrade their CB position which will take some big bucks as well.

Their run D did improve when he was out, but that was also due in large part to the emergence of Larry Foote and Troy Polamalu. I really hope the Steelers manage to retain him, and we look to the draft for out D-Tackle.
 

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Over the last two seasons we have made no effort what so ever to seriously look at bringing in a Nose Tackle. Because of this, I seriously wonder what 'mold' Pendergast looks for for in the Nose Tackle and if Hampton would be a good fit here?

Someone at camp needs to straight up ask what the Nose Tackle is required to do in this scheme.
 

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El Bridgo Crosso.

1. A lot can happen over the next 11 months.

2. There will be surprises (both good and bad) on our own roster.

3. There will be surprises (both good & bad) within the 2006 draft pool.

4. There will be surprises (both good & bad) in free agency

5. There will be surprises (both good & bad) with regard to other teams - overall and within our division.

6. We don't know what our draft position will be - both in absolute terms and within the context of other teams and their needs.

That said - let's assume that Dennis Green remains faithful to his best available athlete philosophy. That should simplify things. All we have to do is watch a lot of college football, cherry pick the best athletes and rank them.

With this in mind, if the draft were held today - and he was available when we picked - Vincent Young QB Texas jumps out. He'd be technically a junior and still has a lot to learn about being a pro QB, but seems to have all the qualities of Michael Vick and Donovan McNabb combined. His running skills alone provide a fallback option for the team who drafts him should he hurt his arm or falter as a QB. I'll probably put all Texas U games on my TIVO wish list just for the excitement of watching him play.
 

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JeffGollin said:
El Bridgo Crosso.

1. A lot can happen over the next 11 months.

2. There will be surprises (both good and bad) on our own roster.

3. There will be surprises (both good & bad) within the 2006 draft pool.

4. There will be surprises (both good & bad) in free agency

5. There will be surprises (both good & bad) with regard to other teams - overall and within our division.

6. We don't know what our draft position will be - both in absolute terms and within the context of other teams and their needs.

That said - let's assume that Dennis Green remains faithful to his best available athlete philosophy. That should simplify things. All we have to do is watch a lot of college football, cherry pick the best athletes and rank them.

With this in mind, if the draft were held today - and he was available when we picked - Vincent Young QB Texas jumps out. He'd be technically a junior and still has a lot to learn about being a pro QB, but seems to have all the qualities of Michael Vick and Donovan McNabb combined. His running skills alone provide a fallback option for the team who drafts him should he hurt his arm or falter as a QB. I'll probably put all Texas U games on my TIVO wish list just for the excitement of watching him play.

Jeff,,

I agree.....it's a crapshoot until more info is available, but I do like Vince Young and I am not opposed to taking a QB in the 1st round as long as it isn't with an early pick.

I believe that we will be picking in the 18-20 range. Young will be there, but here is another idea that I like.......Jimmy Williams. He could be the answer as a bookend FS for Adrian Wilson at SS. I do think we need to address this position on the "D". Griffith is a short term fix and Ohalete and Harris are not long termers IMO.
 

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Everyone,

There is a Mock Draft (5 of 7 rounds posted so far) for 2006 over at www.nfldraftblitz.com

It has us picking around 13th.

They have us picking a RB in the 4th to complement JJ Arrington. It is becoming evident that every team will likely have to have two interchangeable RB's in the NFL model that is evolving.......sort of a combo that mirrors an Arrington and a Shipp.

I'm not convinced that Shipp is going to be that back for much more than another couple of years. It would be wise to scout next years class closely for a power back early on day 2.
 

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spanky1 said:
Jeff,,

I agree.....it's a crapshoot until more info is available, but I do like Vince Young and I am not opposed to taking a QB in the 1st round as long as it isn't with an early pick.

I believe that we will be picking in the 18-20 range. Young will be there, but here is another idea that I like.......Jimmy Williams. He could be the answer as a bookend FS for Adrian Wilson at SS. I do think we need to address this position on the "D". Griffith is a short term fix and Ohalete and Harris are not long termers IMO.

That's what I said in an earlier post and believe we would have one of the best young secondaries for upwards of 5 years.
 

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Interesting at NFL Blitz. Do you know who they have us picking, if your not a member you can only see 1-10.

But they have Omar Jacobs going number 4 overall. tp the Bears.
Analysis: Did anyone really think that picking a quarterback (Grossman) with a weak arm was a good idea for a team that plays in "The Windy City"? Watching Jacobs play you can't help but see similarities to Culpepper.
 

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CardinalLaw said:
Interesting at NFL Blitz. Do you know who they have us picking, if your not a member you can only see 1-10.

But they have Omar Jacobs going number 4 overall. tp the Bears.
Analysis: Did anyone really think that picking a quarterback (Grossman) with a weak arm was a good idea for a team that plays in "The Windy City"? Watching Jacobs play you can't help but see similarities to Culpepper.

They have a point about Grossman. But the Bears love Kyle Orton so far.
 

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joeshmo said:
Why becuase there is oh so much else to talk about right now.

I raise your trout slap and give you the moon.

:moon:
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I fold. lol!
 

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