2010 MLB trading deadline thread

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Man that sucks... Why move Haren if you're not going to get top, #1 talent?? His contract isn't a killer.... This is pretty stupid...

When you look at their debt, future salary obligations, and huge patches of empty seats you'll see that Haren's contract is a killer. The DBacks are broke.

 

[overseascardfan]

When you look at their debt, future salary obligations, and huge patches of empty seats you'll see that Haren's contract is a killer. The DBacks are broke.

It's sad that despite the close to $20M coming off the books the D'Backs are looking to trade their best player for what will probably amount to peanuts. I guess we can go all OAK with money ball and trade our young core before they hit arbitration but it is very scary when management can negotiate good trades because they can't evalute talent (see Allison).

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

When you look at their debt, future salary obligations, and huge patches of empty seats you'll see that Haren's contract is a killer. The DBacks are broke.

I've read where the sticking pont in any deal is how much the D'backs are willing to eat of Haren's contract. The more they eat, the better players they get. If i'm trading a talent like Haren, I think I would be calling the shots and make the other teams meet my demands, not vice versa. I think the deal the Yankees offered is garbage. Chamberlain was all hype and an injury risk. The other 2 guys you can find in any minor league system. Jenks, Morel, Carlos Torres, and Santos Rodriguez,single A lefty flamethrower, from the White Sox is a better deal than the Yanks offered and I guarantee the Sox would do that trade in a minute.

 

[Lefty]

From the looks of it Joba name isn't being thrown in, I looked at Ken Rosenthals column and SI's John Heyman and they only mention McAllister who happens to be one of our senior scouting advisors son and Ivan Nova. I don't like Nova, he wasn't mentioned among NY's top prospects prior to this year and could be having a fluke year. Heyman's column mentions our asking price to be 2 SP's and bullpen help which seems to be the A+ package we should be asking for.

Not from this article. Looks like a Yankee deal is not close.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5405807

 

[overseascardfan]

From the looks of it Joba name isn't being thrown in, I looked at Ken Rosenthals column and SI's John Heyman and they only mention McAllister who happens to be one of our senior scouting advisors son and Ivan Nova. I don't like Nova, he wasn't mentioned among NY's top prospects prior to this year and could be having a fluke year. Heyman's column mentions our asking price to be 2 SP's and bullpen help which seems to be the A+ package we should be asking for.

Not from this article. Looks like a Yankee deal is not close.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5405807

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...amondbacks-dan-haren-trade-possibilities.html

According to the AZ Republic the Yankees shot down our suggestion of adding Chamberlain and are trying to do a prospect only deal which is what I meant by not being thrown in by the Yankees. But I agree with you, a deal is not imminent.

 

[overseascardfan]

It looks like every team is low balling the D'Backs. The Yankees are trying to pawn off Nova & McAllister only, PHI will not trade Dominic Brown, DET will not part w/ Jacob Turner, Porcello or Oliver. D'Backs need to keep Haren, they are not going to get enough for him, despite the fact theat he is under contract for 2 more years for a lot less than most SP's of his caliber.

 

[az jam]

It looks like every team is low balling the D'Backs. The Yankees are trying to pawn off Nova & McAllister only, PHI will not trade Dominic Brown, DET will not part w/ Jacob Turner, Porcello or Oliver. D'Backs need to keep Haren, they are not going to get enough for him, despite the fact theat he is under contract for 2 more years for a lot less than most SP's of his caliber.

Agree. It makes no sense to give him away for a group of non-prospects.
He is their ace, keep him.

 

[overseascardfan]

The only deal that I see having potential is a Phillies deal. Kendrick, Happ would be the center pieces, but the key would be if PHI can deal Werth for some good prospects then flip them to ARZ. I can see a 3 team going down, TB is rumored to have interest in Werth and have plenty of pitching available both in the majors and in AAA so we'll see. But definately need to stay away from a NYY deal. There best chip is C Jesus Montero but unless we're interested in dealing either our Montero or Snyder then we have no use for him, Nova & McAllister are back of the rotation guys if that.

 

[asuhoopsnut]

If they are intent on dealing with the Yankees, the pitcher that I would like to see included in the package is Hector Noesi. He might be the best pitching prospect in their organization. Stat link: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=noesi-001hec

 

[Dback Jon]

Either a great deal, or keep him. If they trade him just to trade him, I will be pissed.

 

[binkar]

If they are intent on dealing with the Yankees, the pitcher that I would like to see included in the package is Hector Noesi. He might be the best pitching prospect in their organization. Stat link: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=noesi-001hec

It was just tweeted by Jon Heyman that the Yankees refuse to include Joba, Noesi, and Dellin Betances.

Do they really think they can get Haren for a couple average prospects?

 

[The Commish]

Agree with most of everyone's thoughts here. From a talent standpoint, I think Detroit can offer the best deal. Would love to get Turner/Crosby even though they are probably further away from the majors than the D-Backs want. I know Detroit is on Haren's list of teams he can veto a trade to, so I wonder if it's even a possibility.

The D-Backs should leverage themselves a bit and wait til the deadline to deal him. Since he and Oswalt are the only two #1's available, they should be able to command a good deal. The fact that any team dealing for him will retain control for a couple of years has to add some value as well.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Either a great deal, or keep him. If they trade him just to trade him, I will be pissed.

Agree... My Yankees are trying their best to essentially rape the Dbacks here. I really, REALLY hope they hold firm. As much as I would love to see Haren in pinstripes, I am also a Dback fan and this could get much uglier, very quick! Not that Haren alone puts butts in the seats at Chase, but think about it...if they unload Danny (for reasons I just don't get), who then becomes their ace? And, who then would be the opening day starter next season? How in the world does the Dbacks brass think they can sell tickets with this pathetic offense, historically ALLTIME bad bullpen, and now a starting rotation with Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy vying for the #1 slot????? Are you f'n kidding me!!!!

 

[asuhoopsnut]

It was just tweeted by Jon Heyman that the Yankees refuse to include Joba, Noesi, and Dellin Betances.

Do they really think they can get Haren for a couple average prospects?

Right now, the Yankees and other teams are thinking that the DBacks are looking to dump salary. As the deadline gets closer, I think the offers will get more realistic. Bottom line is that the Dbacks do not need to make a Haren trade. Time for the other teams step up their offers, and if not, their number one stays on the team for the next 2 to 3 years at a reasonable price.

 

[overseascardfan]

Agree... My Yankees are trying their best to essentially rape the Dbacks here. I really, REALLY hope they hold firm. As much as I would love to see Haren in pinstripes, I am also a Dback fan and this could get much uglier, very quick! Not that Haren alone puts butts in the seats at Chase, but think about it...if they unload Danny (for reasons I just don't get), who then becomes their ace? And, who then would be the opening day starter next season? How in the world does the Dbacks brass think they can sell tickets with this pathetic offense, historically ALLTIME bad bullpen, and now a starting rotation with Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy vying for the #1 slot????? Are you f'n kidding me!!!!

What concerns me is what Mao alluded to, the D'Backs are in cost sutting mode, they feel that this team isn't performing up to their salaries, I would agree except for Haren. I think he has performed well this season and had he some help his numbers would be better. I think your comment regarding Jackson and Kennedy along with a rational of we have Parker to replace Haren is the line of crap management would use to justify a lopsided trade. With a promise of flexibility to get other guys in the future but with our scouting department that is a scary thought, plus who the hell would want to come here, we are a small market team.

What I pray doesn't happen is ARZ settles for McAllister, Nova and a third scrub in order for the Yankees to pay the remainder of Haren's $33M. NY gave a better offer to SEA for Lee who is a FA at the end of the year, at least they included their #1 prospect in the deal. It seems that the Yankees and Twins would be the most likely destination because DET is trying to get healthy and need more than P to stay in the pennant race, STL & PHI both seem to be more interested in Oswalt. Do ARZ GM's have a rape me I'm incompetent sign around their necks, man!

 

[Lefty]

MLB Network just said the Nationals are interested in Edwin Jackson. They said there might be other teams interested in Jackson so they can trade him to Washington.

 

[binkar]

Hall mentioned that trading both Haren and Jackson is highly unlikely, though not impossible. That said, I would think trading Jackson at this point would be selling low.

 

[Lefty]

Tampa interested in Quals.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/rays-interested-in-chad-qualls.html

 

[BC867]

Tampa interested in Quals.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/rays-interested-in-chad-qualls.html

Two runs, two hits in the last two Philly innings today.

Tampa wants to see consistency? A run per inning is very consistent with his 8.51 ERA.

Can we gift wrap him?

 

[SunsTzu]

A run per inning is very consistent with his 8.51 ERA.

No kidding, I'd like him to stop showing so much consistency.

 

[DevilPrideBAS]

Tampa interested in Quals.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/rays-interested-in-chad-qualls.html

Trade him for Tampa's worst rookie level prospect ASAP! It is so miserable having to watch him blow up every time he enters a game.