2011 Draft: Blaine Gabbert, QB

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Get to know a little bit about QB prospect Blaine Gabbert through a catch all.
(These kind of gatherers show a person how subjective scouting is.)
What's your take?


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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=76866
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A tall, well-put-together quarterback prospect who possesses good size and won't have any trouble seeing over the line of scrimmage. Is also a pretty good athlete for his size on the move, looks coordinated when flushed outside the pocket, can pick up yards with his feet from time to time and Missouri even ran some option with him. However, isn't nearly as coordinated in the pocket with his footwork. Struggles to keep a consistently compact and balanced base and too often gets too wide with his footwork when trying to throw the football and transfer his weight from his back foot to his front. Doesn't look real comfortable getting the ball out on time from the gun and will have a bit of a learning curve taking snaps and dropping from center. Also, has some wasted motion in his delivery, and when trying to get the ball out on time in the short passing game he displays a slight wind up. Really struggles with his accuracy/timing at times because of these deficiencies underneath. However, possesses a good mental clock and knows when the ball needs to come out. But, is limited to reading more of just one side of the field, isn't a guy who routinely is able to scan his way across the entire field and find secondary options. Has a tendency to read one side and if nothing is on, he automatically looks to flush himself from the pocket the other way, drops his eye level and limits his ability to get rid of the football.

Possesses a strong arm, spins a clean football and has the arm strength to make all the throws. Looks a lot more comfortable in the intermediate pass game where he has time to get into his drop, hitch into the throw and get the ball out on time. Displays good anticipation skills when he knows where he wants to go with the football, exhibiting good ball placement, especially outside the numbers.

Showcases natural arm strength on the move and has the kind of touch to drop bucket throws into the outstretched hands of receivers vertically. Also, does a nice job keeping his eyes down the field once he breaks contain and can throw accurately on the run. However, is a bit lethargic with his footwork when he has time to set his feet and throw, consistently throwing off balance, making passes sail on him.

Impression: A big, strong-armed passer with above-average athletic ability for his size. Still is maturing in his ability to scan the entire field and his footwork is going to need work. But the skill set is there to warrant a potential starting grade, but he is far from a sure thing in my book.
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/qb/blaine-gabbert.shtml
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Positives:
Very quick release, natural motion without any wasted movement... His passes get a lot of RPMs, very tight spirals... Great numbers as a sophomore after taking over for Chase Daniel in 2009, threw for 3,593 yards and 24 TD in his first year as a starter... Big arm, can really throw the ball a long ways and gets good velocity on his throws... Does a great job throwing the deep out... Really throws a pretty deep ball... When he's on, he's hard to stop, can tear apart a defense... Great game manager, takes command of the huddle... Above-average scrambling ability, quick feet to get outside of the pocket and make plays when things break down... Great height and frame for the position, hard to bring down... Extremely high upside, has a ton of natural ability to be a prototypical pocket passer in the NFL, just needs time. .. Can be a very good NFL starter if placed into the right system.

Negatives: Accuracy is hot and cold... When he's off, he starts missing easy passes, overthrows short routes, and gets frustrated... Footwork falls apart when he's under pressure, tends to throw off-balance... Needs to learn when to throw the ball away, takes too many risks going for the big play... Plays in a spread offense where he takes most of his snaps from the shotgun... Needs to put a little more touch on some of his throws... Is a bit of a project, will need time to learn how to take snaps under center... Coming off a disappointing junior season, threw for 3,186 yards, 16 touchdowns and nine interceptions and ended the season by throwing one touchdown to three interceptions in his final two games.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1630777
CBS said:
Accuracy: Regularly shows the ability to place the ball on his target's numbers, though most of his best throws came within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage because of the Missouri spread offense. Throws darts to either side of the field on short timing routes and passes between the hashes. Gives his receivers a chance to make a play after the catch on crossing routes, leading them perfectly when he's comfortable in the pocket. Inconsistent throwing outside the hashes, however, making some fantastic throws on out routes and sailing many others above the head of open receivers or coming up short on touch throws over the top. Also inconsistent on short throws when under pressure.

Arm Strength: Has a solid NFL arm and throws a tight spiral, giving him the capability to stretch the field horizontally and vertically. Threads the ball between the corner and safety against cover-two and needles the ball through tight windows over the middle. Flashes nice touch on seam throws to the tight end. Needs to throttle down a bit more consistently; will overthrow passes in close proximity and sail sideline patterns.

Reading Defenses: Will take time to transition to the NFL because he runs the typical spread offense. Only reads one receiver on many plays, or even half of one side of the field. Stares down receivers and defenders read him easily. Does not look for secondary receivers, tends to take off instead. Fails to see blitzes coming consistently, even when they aren't disguised
 
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Don't have much of a comment on Gabbert.

Just wanted to say awesome job on these posts!
 
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Thanks, it feels like I'm spamming a bit, but I'm just so thrilled with all the high-quality resources popping up that one spot to have them all per player seemed natural.
Also Gabbert had a pretty good game in his Bowl game against Iowa, but that's as much to do with Iowa's D scheme as much as it does Missouri's system or Gabbert's ability.
 

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Thanks, it feels like I'm spamming a bit, but I'm just so thrilled with all the high-quality resources popping up that one spot to have them all per player seemed natural.
Also Gabbert had a pretty good game in his Bowl game against Iowa, but that's as much to do with Iowa's D scheme as much as it does Missouri's system or Gabbert's ability.

Hey Super can you do one on Marcel Darius?
 
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According to Gil Brandt: Gabbert's Pro Day 'much better' than Newton's

Brandt's opinion is noteworthy because he had been one of the Heisman winner's leading supporters, advocating for the Panthers to jump all over Newton with the first pick. "I'm not so sure now," says Brandt. "Gabbert couldn't have done better had he borrowed Drew Brees' right arm. All the questions about his accuracy should start to go away after his workout in front of approximately 125 scouts, coaches and GMs."

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/42138030/ns/sports-player_news/

Gabbert completed 44-of-49 throws in a scripted sequence laid out in advance by private quarterbacks coach Terry Shea. The script included hitch passes, fades, deep outs, five- and seven-step drops, rollouts to his left side and more - with a makeshift cast of four small-college, draft eligible receivers whom Gabbert had to rely on thanks to restrictions under the NFL lockout.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...0.ap.fbn.draft.gabbert.3rd.ld.writethru.0790/
 

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Panthers coach Ron Rivera and G.M. Marty Hurney didn’t show to up Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert’s Thursday Pro Day. But in the mind of NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, Rivera and Hurney should have.

Mayock was in attendance, and came away highly impressed.

“It was a better throwing-mechanics workout than what Matt Ryan had. Similar to Sam Bradford’s,” said Mayock on NFL Network

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...bert-hes-the-first-quarterback-off-the-board/
 

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How the heck can Brandt know how accurate or not accurate for that matter a QB will be based on a pro day? You cant tell how accurate a QB will be what so over in a pro day. If that were the case the best pro day workout of a QB Jamarcus Russell would be the most accurate QB of all time. There is no defenders, pressure, progressions, zones, and so on.

This is all I need to know about Gabbert in the Mizzu spread half the field 2 read offense. 27% completion percentage in his career on throws he tried to attempt more then 15 yards, which the Mizzu Coaches knew about and rarely made him try considering he wasnt even in the top 100 QBs in college football in yards per attempt.
 

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How the heck can Brandt know how accurate or not accurate for that matter a QB will be based on a pro day? You cant tell how accurate a QB will be what so over in a pro day. If that were the case the best pro day workout of a QB Jamarcus Russell would be the most accurate QB of all time. There is no defenders, pressure, progressions, zones, and so on.

This is all I need to know about Gabbert in the Mizzu spread half the field 2 read offense. 27% completion percentage in his career on throws he tried to attempt more then 15 yards, which the Mizzu Coaches knew about and rarely made him try considering he wasnt even in the top 100 QBs in college football in yards per attempt.
That is crazy scary. Would explain his TDs (lack of) as well.
 

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That's what I didn't like, his yards per attempt which isn't good compared to other top 10 QB picks. This year was only 6.7. Though 2009 was better. Not saying he's a bad pick, but too high for top 5 imo.


That is crazy scary. Would explain his TDs (lack of) as well.
 

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How the heck can Brandt know how accurate or not accurate for that matter a QB will be based on a pro day? You cant tell how accurate a QB will be what so over in a pro day. If that were the case the best pro day workout of a QB Jamarcus Russell would be the most accurate QB of all time. There is no defenders, pressure, progressions, zones, and so on.

This is all I need to know about Gabbert in the Mizzu spread half the field 2 read offense. 27% completion percentage in his career on throws he tried to attempt more then 15 yards, which the Mizzu Coaches knew about and rarely made him try considering he wasnt even in the top 100 QBs in college football in yards per attempt.
I didn't watch much of Gabbert but from the clips above, it seems to me that he might actually be a good fit for what the Cardinals want to do on offense. Assuming '08 & '09 are what Whiz wants to do anyway.

Lots of short passing, methodically working down the field, keeping the other team off the field. If he's accurate on those throws, then he might be worth considering for the Cardinals.
 

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I didn't watch much of Gabbert but from the clips above, it seems to me that he might actually be a good fit for what the Cardinals want to do on offense. Assuming '08 & '09 are what Whiz wants to do anyway.

Lots of short passing, methodically working down the field, keeping the other team off the field. If he's accurate on those throws, then he might be worth considering for the Cardinals.

That is an excellent point, moke. Especially in light of how dink and dunk Whiz's offense has become.
 

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I didn't watch much of Gabbert but from the clips above, it seems to me that he might actually be a good fit for what the Cardinals want to do on offense. Assuming '08 & '09 are what Whiz wants to do anyway.

Lots of short passing, methodically working down the field, keeping the other team off the field. If he's accurate on those throws, then he might be worth considering for the Cardinals.

He's deadly on those throws.

He's also got the arm for deep throws and if he ever got on the same page with Larry it'd be a long TD factory, the key is to time it so the DB must be running too, instead of a stationary jump ball make it a running jump ball and the TD's will just go off like a pinball machine.
 

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How the heck can Brandt know how accurate or not accurate for that matter a QB will be based on a pro day? You cant tell how accurate a QB will be what so over in a pro day. If that were the case the best pro day workout of a QB Jamarcus Russell would be the most accurate QB of all time. There is no defenders, pressure, progressions, zones, and so on.

This is all I need to know about Gabbert in the Mizzu spread half the field 2 read offense. 27% completion percentage in his career on throws he tried to attempt more then 15 yards, which the Mizzu Coaches knew about and rarely made him try considering he wasnt even in the top 100 QBs in college football in yards per attempt.

I think what he's saying is he's more accurate than we thought because we didn't expect that even at a scripted pro day?

I was watching ESPN this morning and they had their guys talking about Gabbert. The ex Steeler Hoge does NOT like him, said the thing that scares him is "he sees the rush but he doesn't FEEL the rush." Aside from flashbacks to White Men Can't Jump, what he's saying is he only avoids rushers he can see, if they're coming from the blindside he won't see them and he'll get hit. They also showed how when he does leave the pocket, he often takes the wrong way out because he doesn't feel the rush and runs right into sacks.

Golic and their draft expert(not Kiper) think he'll get better with time and point out the system at Missouri essentially is make one read, if it's not there go, and that's what he did. But they showed some highights where the first read is covered and others are wide open and Gabbert never throws it and said even if it's not the first read you gotta find open Wr's if you have time in the pocket.

I just fear guys who didn't have to make more than one read, whether they can or not if they didn't have to in college it's much harder to learn that in the NFL.

That's why I'd rather get Kolb if we can and use the first pick on someone like Peterson or a DL or LB.
 

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Have you seen how wide the splits are on Mizzou's line? Every single game the announcers jaw drops at how far apart the offensive linemen are from each other, you could drive a truck through them.

This is on purpose to SPREAD out the field, but BUT if you're a QB you have NO TIME to feel anything and you can be SURE that SOMEONE is about to rip your head off at the count of two.

He can't feel anything, he can't wait for reads to open up, he has to make two reads then times up so yes WR's are going to be WIDE OPEN and he's going to miss them, because if he dosen't, he'll DIE.

It's not going to be that way in the pro's or...well he'd be the perfect QB for us since our line sucks he'll feel right at home with someone comming before two.
 
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Have you seen how wide the splits are on Mizzou's line? Every single game the announcers jaw drops at how far apart the offensive linemen are from each other, you could drive a truck through them.

This is on purpose to SPREAD out the field, but BUT if you're a QB you have NO TIME to feel anything and you can be SURE that SOMEONE is about to rip your head off at the count of two.

He can't feel anything, he can't wait for reads to open up, he has to make two reads then times up so yes WR's are going to be WIDE OPEN and he's going to miss them, because if he dosen't, he'll DIE.

It's not going to be that way in the pro's or...well he'd be the perfect QB for us since our line sucks he'll feel right at home with someone comming before two.

Cant buy what your trying to sell. Texas Tech and their QB's dont have a problem with it, and their OL splits are the widest in college football. Chase Daniels didnt have a problem with it while at Mizzu.
 

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Have you seen how wide the splits are on Mizzou's line? Every single game the announcers jaw drops at how far apart the offensive linemen are from each other, you could drive a truck through them.

This is on purpose to SPREAD out the field, but BUT if you're a QB you have NO TIME to feel anything and you can be SURE that SOMEONE is about to rip your head off at the count of two.

He can't feel anything, he can't wait for reads to open up, he has to make two reads then times up so yes WR's are going to be WIDE OPEN and he's going to miss them, because if he dosen't, he'll DIE.

It's not going to be that way in the pro's or...well he'd be the perfect QB for us since our line sucks he'll feel right at home with someone comming before two.



that's true. I also think he's being hurt by Alex Smith. he's been so disappointing that any QB who comes from that one read system now is being held accountable for Smith's failure in the NFL to date.

I haven't seen him enough to have an opinion beyond I fear using a 5th overall pick on a kid who wasn't asked to make more than one read in college. He may be able to do it, he may not.
 
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Bump for end of year look-in.
Games to go, but a hard year for the kid.
Middle of the road O-line. Weapons at TE, RB, and one WR.
Jury's still out, but worth noting.
Good video vs mediocre defense here:
 

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He looks like he will be a good west coast type of QB. I liked the kid coming out and I still like him now. I think he turns out to be a pretty good QB in a couple of years.
 

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