2018 1st round pick is Josh Rosen

[bojack]

To say he was measurably worse than Jackson with clean pocket is not reassuring.

 

[TJ]

From a clean pocket. Rosen was an 80.9 passer rating. O-Line issues don't seem to be his only problem.

Less than Jackson.
On par with Allen.

No wonder it got horribly worse when he was under pressure.

Can anyone find the version of that graphic above for Goff in his first year? Did he at least show signs of something?

Goff was awful, especially his last game against us. He was benched

 

[cwamjn]

To say he was measurably worse than Jackson with clean pocket is not reassuring.

Downright turrible especially since Jackson is not a pocket passer. Rosens 40 time was measured on a calendar.

 

[Zeno]

Rosens 40 time was measured on a calendar.

Yet it was faster than Foles, Brady, Garoppolo, Rivers, Romo etc... but we all know the 40 time for a pocket QB is super important.

 

[BW52]

So the Rosen bashers rant on because they see the shiny new toy(Murray) and got to have it now.Doesn`t matter that there hasn`t been a successful 5`10 QB in the NFl in forever...they still want that new toy because it blips,buzzes and dazzle them with PT Barnum theatrics.

 

[Ronin]

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[swagron]

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That’s a who’s who list of mediocrity or below...

 

[Ronin]

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[CardsFan88]

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To be fair, if he throws to Fitz, its a TD. Only guy near Fitz is 5 yards behind him. If they connect, its almost a walk in TD.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Some good press for Josh...

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/07/josh-rosen-cardinals-trade-rumors-kyler-murray-nfl-draft

 

[HeHasRosen]

Some good press for Josh...

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/07/josh-rosen-cardinals-trade-rumors-kyler-murray-nfl-draft

Sad that even these guys can see what some on here can't. And supposedly these people actually watched the games.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Some good press for Josh...

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/07/josh-rosen-cardinals-trade-rumors-kyler-murray-nfl-draft

Best national media article on the situation this far.

 

[wit3card]

To be fair, if he throws to Fitz, its a TD. Only guy near Fitz is 5 yards behind him. If they connect, its almost a walk in TD.

no, the defender that had to cover Fitz already saw that Rosen sidesteped and was to throw to Kirk, if Rosen than would have thrown to Fitz, against his set feets or fast reseted his feets ... that would have really be impressive, but on that play, Fitz was open, when Rosen already had done everything and was set up to throw to Kirk. You can't expect him to see the stoping defender and than reset again and throw to Fitz (another at least half second, that he mabe didn't even have).

 

[Shane]

Some good press for Josh...

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/07/josh-rosen-cardinals-trade-rumors-kyler-murray-nfl-draft

That should have its own thread

 

[Zeno]

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[CardsFan88]

no, the defender that had to cover Fitz already saw that Rosen sidesteped and was to throw to Kirk, if Rosen than would have thrown to Fitz, against his set feets or fast reseted his feets ... that would have really be impressive, but on that play, Fitz was open, when Rosen already had done everything and was set up to throw to Kirk. You can't expect him to see the stoping defender and than reset again and throw to Fitz (another at least half second, that he mabe didn't even have).

The play was designed to get Fitz open, and he was as four guys were drawn by Kirk. Kirk was the decoy. Rosen threw to the decoy, because Kirk was good enough to get open. That shows the value of Kirk.

But Rosen didn't let the play develop.

There was many times this year stuff like this happened, even when he got decent/good blocking on the play.

Sure there were many times he had no time to let things develop, but so many times I was like, oh this guy was just about to come wide open. Or he didn't see someone wide on the opposite side. He did it a lot.

It turned out to be a good play, but again it was the wrong read as Fitz would have had a TD.

This is where good QB's eat defenses alive. It was there.

If he's our QB going forward, I hope Rosen progresses in this area, and I hope we get him some blocking so he has more chances to.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

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I can only imagine how angry Rosen is about all this nonsense. It’s good motivation

 

[oaken1]

The play was designed to get Fitz open, and he was as four guys were drawn by Kirk. Kirk was the decoy. Rosen threw to the decoy, because Kirk was good enough to get open. That shows the value of Kirk.

But Rosen didn't let the play develop.

There was many times this year stuff like this happened, even when he got decent/good blocking on the play.

Sure there were many times he had no time to let things develop, but so many times I was like, oh this guy was just about to come wide open. Or he didn't see someone wide on the opposite side. He did it a lot.

It turned out to be a good play, but again it was the wrong read as Fitz would have had a TD.

This is where good QB's eat defenses alive. It was there.

If he's our QB going forward, I hope Rosen progresses in this area, and I hope we get him some blocking so he has more chances to.

yeah...first he has to be able to trust that he actually has the time to wait for the play to develop.

 

[Shane]

yeah...first he has to be able to trust that he actually has the time to wait for the play to develop.

Exactly. His line didn't give him that trust.

 

[CardsFan88]

yeah...first he has to be able to trust that he actually has the time to wait for the play to develop.

True and false.

It's true he had a crap line and couldn't trust it much of the time, but it's false to say he shouldn't once in a while make those plays even with an utter crap line.

We can't make excuses for him. We can understand the situation and still say he should make that play some of the time.

Again, even with time, I saw way too many times he didn't. Hopefully with better blocking and more experience he will, but that's not a sure thing, and that's the reality. We still need to question why he had a much worse rookie year than say, Matt Leinart.

Hopefully last year was the abberration, but we should note it to see if this sort of behavior continues under better circumstances.

 

[oaken1]

True and false.

It's true he had a crap line and couldn't trust it much of the time, but it's false to say he shouldn't once in a while make those plays even with an utter crap line.

We can't make excuses for him. We can understand the situation and still say he should make that play some of the time.

Again, even with time, I saw way too many times he didn't. Hopefully with better blocking and more experience he will, but that's not a sure thing, and that's the reality. We still need to question why he had a much worse rookie year than say, Matt Leinart.

Hopefully last year was the abberration, but we should note it to see if this sort of behavior continues under better circumstances.

The situation definitely deserves more observation under better circumstances

 

[b8rtm8nn]

True and false.

It's true he had a crap line and couldn't trust it much of the time, but it's false to say he shouldn't once in a while make those plays even with an utter crap line.

We can't make excuses for him. We can understand the situation and still say he should make that play some of the time.

Again, even with time, I saw way too many times he didn't. Hopefully with better blocking and more experience he will, but that's not a sure thing, and that's the reality. We still need to question why he had a much worse rookie year than say, Matt Leinart.

Hopefully last year was the abberration, but we should note it to see if this sort of behavior continues under better circumstances.

I get this line of thinking, and then I see a bunch of QBs have a solid set of games as rookies, then start to suck as time progresses. The next two years are critical for him.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

If he walked on water, you'd say that he can't swim.

I think both SoCal QBs will be huge failures in the NFL.

*cough

 

[TheCardFan]

I don't see Rosen on any rosters this year.

I guess he is done showing teams that they made a mistake by not drafting him?

“There were nine mistakes made ahead of me, and I’m going to make sure, over the next decade or so, that they know they made a mistake,” Rosen said

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[DVontel]

I don't see Rosen on any rosters this year.

I guess he is done showing teams that they made a mistake by not drafting him?

“There were nine mistakes made ahead of me, and I’m going to make sure, over the next decade or so, that they know they made a mistake,” Rosen said

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Man, you had to be extremely bored.