2021-22 Around the NBA Thread

[Covert Rain]

I think he’s thinking lengthening season will lead to more injuries so if they’re going to add games mid season for a tournament (which still sounds like the dumbest and most meaningless addition ever to any league), they should cut back on the season games to compensate.

Oh I am with you there. I don't think we should extend the season for a tournament at all. It's just he said "reduce". Totally with you. Extending an already 82 game season is beyond asinine. I was just assuming that the tournament would be part of the 82 game season. I got what he meant now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Why would they need to reduce the season for this to be successful? Also, what incentives are you suggesting?

An 82 game season is already too long plus the playoffs especially for teams that make a deep run.

The incentives could be something like more money for the finalists of the tourney and a shorter season for all.

A trophy is not enough.

 

[Dback Jon]

What would be the point?

 

[Covert Rain]

An 82 game season is already too long plus the playoffs especially for teams that make a deep run.

The incentives could be something like more money for the finalists of the tourney and a shorter season for all.

A trophy is not enough.

Gotcha. I have not read the article above yet. Would it extend the number of playoff games that are on average played now? If not, not sure it needs a reduction. If the proposal would make the playoffs longer than they are now? Yeah...reduce the season for sure. I just don't want to see the players play any longer of a season. Baseball and Basketball in general are ridiculously long.

 

[Covert Rain]

P.S. I wouldn't mind seeing a 62 Game season with a tournament.

 

[Mainstreet]

Gotcha. I have not read the article above yet. Would it extend the number of playoff games that are on average played now? If not, not sure it needs a reduction. If the proposal would make the playoffs longer than they are now? Yeah...reduce the season for sure. I just don't want to see the players play any longer of a season. Baseball and Basketball in general are ridiculously long.

P.S. I wouldn't mind seeing a 62 Game season with a tournament.

The Commissioner was talking about shortening the season among other things.

I wouldn't mind a tournament if it didn't add to an already long season.

 

[Mainstreet]

What would be the point?

I think a Christmas tournament would be fun with incentives.

 

[95pro]

From coach of the year to (potentially) fired the next year. God Bless the Knicks.

I think they got tired of all his yelling.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think a Christmas tournament would be fun with incentives.

i just don't get the point nor would I see myself getting excited about this at all. if these games have no bearing on seeding or winning a championship, they might as well just be pre-season games.

 

[Dback Jon]

i just don't get the point nor would I see myself getting excited about this at all. if these games have no bearing on seeding or winning a championship, they might as well just be pre-season games.

Yup

 

[Mainstreet]

i just don't get the point nor would I see myself getting excited about this at all. if these games have no bearing on seeding or winning a championship, they might as well just be pre-season games.

There would have to be incentives to make it attractive, something to make it worthwhile and make it different.

I used to like attending high school and college holiday tournaments.

 

[Covert Rain]

i just don't get the point nor would I see myself getting excited about this at all. if these games have no bearing on seeding or winning a championship, they might as well just be pre-season games.

Unless it replaces the current playoff structure, I would rather not have it all.

 

[Hoop Head]

Make lottery teams play for the draft position. Take the bottom 4 teams so talent disparity isn't huge between worst and least worst.

They'd also need to aggressively punish tanking to keep teams out that try to game the system.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Make lottery teams play for the draft position. Take the bottom 4 teams so talent disparity isn't huge between worst and least worst.

They'd also need to aggressively punish tanking to keep teams out that try to game the system.

You think the mid season tournament should feature the lottery teams? Confused here.

 

[Hoop Head]

You think the mid season tournament should feature the lottery teams? Confused here.

Not in the mid season. They could do it once the first 4 teams are eliminated from qualifying for the playoffs.

Silver seems to want another tournament badly and I can't see any point before March, at the earliest, when it would make sense outside of some small All-Star sort of tournament. Make up All-Star teams for each division, play in a short 3 day tournament.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Not in the mid season. They could do it once the first 4 teams are eliminated from qualifying for the playoffs.

Silver seems to want another tournament badly and I can't see any point before March, at the earliest, when it would make sense outside of some small All-Star sort of tournament. Make up All-Star teams for each division, play in a short 3 day tournament.

I don’t think he wants a tournament of the worst teams in the league. He wants something glitzy the NBA can promote to bring eyeballs. That ain’t lottery teams.

 

[Proximo]

Unless it replaces the current playoff structure, I would rather not have it all.

Agreed, it just seems like a desperate way to try and boost ratings, when all it will end up doing is diluting the importance of the actual playoffs and championship.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think he’s thinking lengthening season will lead to more injuries so if they’re going to add games mid season for a tournament (which still sounds like the dumbest and most meaningless addition ever to any league), they should cut back on the season games to compensate.

Man. I agree with you so much on this. If they do anything like this, it should only include teams far out of the playoff picture and allow teams that are in the playoff picture to rest. I don't know what the incentive would be, maybe a play-in slot or something. It just cannot add overall games for the teams already likely headed for a deep run in the playoffs.

I have often thought that the league could go from 12 minute quarters to 10 minute quarters. It would really mess up historical stats, but it would cut the season by about 16% for players. The result would be less fatigue and wear and tear. The number of games would be the same, so the gate would remain the same, and on TV you would have more time for advertising.

Its an "out there" idea, so I am sure there is something dumb about it that I had not thought of, but there it is.

 

[Russ Smith]

Skeptical but this is the 2nd claim I've seen that said Wiseman has gotten much stronger and once in shape will be significantly better than he was last year. The first one was from a former player, this one is from Wiggins.

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

i just don't get the point nor would I see myself getting excited about this at all. if these games have no bearing on seeding or winning a championship, they might as well just be pre-season games.

Ditto. I think the tournament thing is dumb. That said I’ve always liked the NCAA holiday tournament and hope zona or gtown win them, so maybe I would change my mind once the nba actually does it. Then again, one of the reasons I like the college tourneys is my teams get to play out of conference ranked teams they may not otherwise play. That wouldn’t be the case with the nba. I’m back to thinking this is a dumb idea.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You think the mid season tournament should feature the lottery teams? Confused here.

Lol, yeah here’s the pitch: WATCH OUR WORST TEAMS PLAY EACH OTHER!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Man. I agree with you so much on this. If they do anything like this, it should only include teams far out of the playoff picture and allow teams that are in the playoff picture to rest. I don't know what the incentive would be, maybe a play-in slot or something. It just cannot add overall games for the teams already likely headed for a deep run in the playoffs.

I have often thought that the league could go from 12 minute quarters to 10 minute quarters. It would really mess up historical stats, but it would cut the season by about 16% for players. The result would be less fatigue and wear and tear. The number of games would be the same, so the gate would remain the same, and on TV you would have more time for advertising.

Its an "out there" idea, so I am sure there is something dumb about it that I had not thought of, but there it is.

I wonder if it would result in less play time for starters or just less play time fir backups. I’m inclined to say the latter. Montys going to say to himself “I know book can play 36 minutes at a high level. The game is shortened but that just means I can play book for the same minutes and have a bigger impact on a greater percentage of the game.”

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Skeptical but this is the 2nd claim I've seen that said Wiseman has gotten much stronger and once in shape will be significantly better than he was last year. The first one was from a former player, this one is from Wiggins.

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As a kid with a lot of time off this is what I would’ve expected. He’s still maturing so filling out his frame is a natural occurrence. Add in free time and his upper body should be significantly stronger.

 

[95pro]

How about the bottom teams, whoever are in the playin tournament, battle it out and the winner decides to stay in the east or west or change conferences

 

[Russ Smith]

As a kid with a lot of time off this is what I would’ve expected. He’s still maturing so filling out his frame is a natural occurrence. Add in free time and his upper body should be significantly stronger.

Yeah but body and strength weren't his issue last year, defense was. Since he's been out with a knee and 2 surgeries, for meniscus, I wonder how much better he can actually be on defense? That's their issue right now, size and defense, he solves the size issue but last year the defense was better with him on the bench.

But Adonal Foyle said the same thing on air last week from being around the team Wiseman is going to be quite a bit better this year

Hope it's true, man they need size