2021-22 Around the NBA Thread

[Yuma]

Just once don't you want someone to let a Stewart to slip by and get to LeBron?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Just once don't you want someone to let a Stewart to slip by and get to LeBron?

Well, sure. But not as bad as I want to see Beverley get what's coming to him.

 

[Yuma]

Well, sure. But not as bad as I want to see Beverley get what's coming to him.

That is a tough choice. Maybe Lebron and Beverly square off some night?

 

[GatorAZ]

Anybody get a look at that giant pink wool sweater that Kuzma wore to work today? I stopped laughing when I found out it was a designer sweater that goes for almost 1600 dollars. Each to their own but I can find better ways to get rid of my money.

I don’t believe you. Kyle Kuzma seems like the last guy to draw attention to himself.

 

[GatorAZ]

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I guess I shouldn’t hate on him cause i’ve never been in Vanessa Hudgens pants.

 

[Mainstreet]

Just once don't you want someone to let a Stewart to slip by and get to LeBron?

My money would have been on Stewart.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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I guess I shouldn’t hate on him cause i’ve never been in Vanessa Hudgens pants.

That’s real?!?

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Justifiably. Stewart didn't just react, he failed to leave the court and went after Lebron after which he failed to leave the court and again went after Lebron. And again and again. If Stewart hadn't been a bloody mess he probably would have gotten even more games.

Lebron is a non-stop actor on the court, manipulates the hell out of the refs but he is not a dirty player. With no history of cheap shots behind him, one game was appropriate.

Ya, but there should be an automatic add on of 2 games for anyone that bloodies another player like that.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Ya, but there should be an automatic add on of 2 games for anyone that bloodies another player like that.

Nah but I am willing to allow a 2 game suspension waiver for any player that works that hard to get to Lebron.

 

[Hoop Head]

Ya, but there should be an automatic add on of 2 games for anyone that bloodies another player like that.

Some guys are bleeders so that wouldn't be a fair rule. I know it would have benefited the Suns but imagine Tony Parker getting 2 games for colliding with Nash years back. That was incidental contact but it led to Nash bleeding everywhere for the final 2 minutes of the game.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Some guys are bleeders so that wouldn't be a fair rule. I know it would have benefited the Suns but imagine Tony Parker getting 2 games for colliding with Nash years back. That was incidental contact but it led to Nash bleeding everywhere for the final 2 minutes of the game.

Not only that but Stewart only had a few spots of blood when he first confronted Lebron.

Had he gone to the bench for treatment right away as most players have in the past, the bleeding wouldn't be a topic of discussion or concern. You can't punish one guy because the other guy failed to do what he should have done.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't think blood is a fair measure of suspension. Actually bleeding happens all the time in the NBA. It's more the intent of the contact. A player can get his legs knocked out while in the air and not even bleed.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

A player can get his legs knocked out while in the air and not even bleed.

Now that has always been a lead to fighting

 

[Mainstreet]

Now that has always been a lead to fighting

Yes, a player getting their legs taken out from underneath them while in the air is one of the most dangerous plays in the NBA although real fighting is mostly a thing of the past.

This would apply to the WNBA as well.

 

[JCSunsfan]

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I guess I shouldn’t hate on him cause i’ve never been in Vanessa Hudgens pants.

What is he,6-10? Is that like the largest sweater ever made?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Some guys are bleeders so that wouldn't be a fair rule. I know it would have benefited the Suns but imagine Tony Parker getting 2 games for colliding with Nash years back. That was incidental contact but it led to Nash bleeding everywhere for the final 2 minutes of the game.

There is a difference between incidental blood and an intentional act. The fact is that Stewarts' injury was a result of an intentional non-basketball act by LeBron James and it resulted in 8 stitches. LeBron's suspension was way too light. It should be treated just like he punched Stewart with that result. This "fake basketball play" stuff that has been going on needs to be dealt with. It was the same thing with Morris and Jokic. Morris is a wuss who threw his elbow and then immediately turned his back and walked away so he could avoid retaliation.

Stewart got the extra because he would not leave the court and re-escalated what, three times?

 

[95pro]

Here's why Lebron deserves 3 games.

One think about in game actions where someone makes a hard foul, were they going for the ball hinting at the intent of the foul, also did they follow through?
Usually they follow with an ejection or maybe 1 game.

Lebron, there was no ball, he did follow through though. It was clearly intentional.

Now where was the player hit? Face? Nuts? Lebron clearly went for the face with intent...on a made freethrow. This is what separates this hit from other 1 game suspensions. I feel considering the amount of stitches Stewart needed and the context of the hit factors into a longer suspension. It was clearly a cheapshot that could have been worse considering the location of the hit.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Here's why Lebron deserves 3 games.

One think about in game actions where someone makes a hard foul, were they going for the ball hinting at the intent of the foul, also did they follow through?
Usually they follow with an ejection or maybe 1 game.

Lebron, there was no ball, he did follow through though. It was clearly intentional.

Now where was the player hit? Face? Nuts? Lebron clearly went for the face with intent...on a made freethrow. This is what separates this hit from other 1 game suspensions. I feel considering the amount of stitches Stewart needed and the context of the hit factors into a longer suspension. It was clearly a cheapshot that could have been worse considering the location of the hit.

Here's why he doesn't deserve 3 games. Lebron was manhandled by Stewart throughout the game. The refs chose to allow an awful lot of contact so they set the tone for this type of conflict. Lebron's arm to the head (whether you think it's a fist or an elbow) was a clear overreaction but the league typically takes into consideration if it's an immediate response.

Also, Jokic's hard shove in the back was far more dangerous and in fact, Markieff is expected to miss more than 10 games from that incident. Sure Markieff got in the first cheap shot whereas Stewart was just taking what the refs would allow him but the reactions were similar and instant.

No matter how you look at it, it would be a bad look for the league if they hammered Lebron just a day or two after the Assistant Commissioner boasted about bringing physicality back to the game (for the fans, according to him).

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Some guys are bleeders so that wouldn't be a fair rule. I know it would have benefited the Suns but imagine Tony Parker getting 2 games for colliding with Nash years back. That was incidental contact but it led to Nash bleeding everywhere for the final 2 minutes of the game.

Good point, I am one of them.

Obviously, my proposed rule change needs some work.

 

[Covert Rain]

Lebron should have gotten a bigger suspension. It was vicious IMO. It was a punk move. I don't care what happened before it or if the game was physical. The fact Lebron may have been frustrated is no excuse. He intentionally took a cheap blind swing at another player that could have cause some serious damage to the eye. The rules should be that any player that intentionally hurts another player should be suspended until that player is fully healed.

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[AzStevenCal]

Lebron should have gotten a bigger suspension. It was vicious IMO. It was a punk move. I don't care what happened before it or if the game was physical. The fact Lebron may have been frustrated is no excuse. He intentionally took a cheap blind swing at another player that could have cause some serious damage to the eye. The rules should be that any player that intentionally hurts another player should be suspended until that player is fully healed.

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Reggie Miller and Shaq say it was just a normal basketball move, he was swinging to dislodge Stewart (who was holding onto him) and simply missed his shoulder.

Reggie said the only reason he got a game is because of the optics - Stewart tasting his blood and going into a rage forced the league into giving him a penalty he didn't deserve.

Of course, I think you're both wrong and the NBA did the right thing with both players. But the point is, there's more than one way to view this incident.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think we should re-enact this. I will play Lebron. Who wants to play Stewart?

Remember I get a free swing.

Everyone else make sure you catch Stewart.

 

[95pro]

knicks are trying to lose this game.

 

[95pro]

And the lakers just give up with a lot of time left on the clock. Weird.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think we should re-enact this. I will play Lebron. Who wants to play Stewart?

Remember I get a free swing.

Everyone else make sure you catch Stewart.

Okay, I'll be Beef Stew if for no other reason than all my life I've wanted a cool nickname.

Know this - I have a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very tough life. Skills that make me a nightmare for prima donnas like you. Unless you hide behind Anthony Davis, DeAndre Jordan and a dozen other Lakers, I'll be the end of you. I will not stop chasing you, I will not stop pursuing you. I will find you, and I will destroy you.