2023 1st round pick is #6 Paris Johnson

[kerouac9]

I never assume they are correct. I am holding onto Kyle's OL proj.

Ultimately, right now DJ is still on the roster as is Beachum. Until that changes, why would the Cardinals share that anything would change. I think The Captain will be a June 1 cut, which means the Cardinals have zero rush to make that roster move until after the draft. If MHJ is available at 4, Monti takes him, and we add a RT at 27 or in round 2...then you can cut DJ and have the plan be move PJJ to LT. If MHJ is gone and Monti decides to take Alt or Fashanu, then you cut DJ, and the plan stays keeping PJJ at RT. Even with inside sources, the plan is to keep things as they are until the draft comes which will dictate any changes.

The way that the captured Cardinals media has been pooh-pooh-ing taking a WR high as well is certainly concerning. I'm assuming that it's mostly whiplash from last year's trade down, not that something is being communicated to soften the ground (I don't think that Monti is at all interested in expectations management -- unlike his predecessor).

This is very much a case of "DHop is a member of this team right now." Also, the donkeys tryna get them clicks yo.

 

[BirdGangThing]

To me - if the Cards saying they plan to keep Paris at RT - we must be addressing LT during free agency

 

[Mulli]

To me - if the Cards saying they plan to keep Paris at RT - we must be addressing LT during free agency

The Cards are not saying that.

 

[BirdGangThing]

The Cards are not saying that.

I'd like to see Paris go to the left and us re-invest again high in the draft but that's just me

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The Cards are not saying that.

Smokescreen

 

[Mulli]

Smokescreen

#BirdCityGang Dopes

 

[Mulli]

Smokescreen

So, the Cardinals are not not saying that?

 

[Chopper0080]

I'd like to see Paris go to the left and us re-invest again high in the draft but that's just me

And I believe it will be an option they consider, but I understand why they aren't going to put that out there until they have to.

 

[SoonerLou]

I never assume they are correct. I am holding onto Kyle's OL proj.

Ultimately, right now DJ is still on the roster as is Beachum. Until that changes, why would the Cardinals share that anything would change. I think The Captain will be a June 1 cut, which means the Cardinals have zero rush to make that roster move until after the draft. If MHJ is available at 4, Monti takes him, and we add a RT at 27 or in round 2...then you can cut DJ and have the plan be move PJJ to LT. If MHJ is gone and Monti decides to take Alt or Fashanu, then you cut DJ, and the plan stays keeping PJJ at RT. Even with inside sources, the plan is to keep things as they are until the draft comes which will dictate any changes.

Now I know this may be more of an indictment on the PHNX crew. However, they are hearing even if they take MHJ at 4 and an OL at 27 they are still keeping Paris at RT. Moving Guyton or Mims to LT because the organization cares about PJJ success first. Keeping him at RT and next to Hernandez.

Again its easy to dismiss them and they may be incorrect. However, its not what you know its who you know. All it takes is one guy who likes to blab to them.

 

[BirdGangThing]

So, the Cardinals are not not saying that?

 

[kerouac9]

Moving Guyton or Mims to LT because the organization cares about PJJ success first.

This is absolutely deranged.

 

[Chopper0080]

Now I know this may be more of an indictment on the PHNX crew. However, they are hearing even if they take MHJ at 4 and an OL at 27 they are still keeping Paris at RT. Moving Guyton or Mims to LT because the organization cares about PJJ success first. Keeping him at RT and next to Hernandez.

Again its easy to dismiss them and they may be incorrect. However, its not what you know its who you know. All it takes is one guy who likes to blab to them.

If true, that would make me question Monti, Gannon and Petzing.

EDIT: Guyton makes some sense because I believe he has been a LT his entire career. I have not checked that tho.

EDIT TO THE EDIT: I was wrong. RT.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Drafting a RT in the top 10 would be quite the move.

 

[kerouac9]

If true, that would make me question Monti, Gannon and Petzing.

EDIT: Guyton makes some sense because I believe he has been a LT his entire career. I have not checked that tho.

This is not correct.

As a sophomore in 2021 he played in 7 games and a total of 25 snaps. He conceded just one QB hurry, no QB hits, and no sacks while playing the majority of his snaps at left tackle, and the rest at left guard.

After the end of the season Guyton transferred to Oklahoma where as a junior Guyton saw action in 8 games and totaled 311 snaps. He gave up just 2 QB hurries, no QB hits, and one sack while playing most of his snaps at right tackle.

In 2023 as a senior Guyton saw action in 10 games and played a total of 662 snaps for the Sooners. He allowed 9 QB hurries, 3 QB hits, and no sacks while playing at right tackle.

Apparently he played DT in high school.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is not correct.



Apparently he played DT in high school.

Thank you for the fact check.

 

[SoonerLou]

If true, that would make me question Monti, Gannon and Petzing.

EDIT: Guyton makes some sense because I believe he has been a LT his entire career. I have not checked that tho.

EDIT TO THE EDIT: I was wrong. RT.

Well they've(PHNX) doubled down that they are desperate for a LT based on what they are hearing. MHJ is the exception to not taking one at 4. Cards dont care what others think as they would have taken PJJ at 3 if not for the trade down. (which is ironic considering they now view him as primarily as a RT)

 

[Chopper0080]

Well they've(PHNX) doubled down that they are desperate for a LT based on what they are hearing. MHJ is the exception to not taking one at 4. Cards dont care what others think as they would have taken PJJ at 3 if not for the trade down. (which is ironic considering they now view him as primarily as a RT)

A couple thoughts on this.

1 - We will see.

2 - I can stomach Alt at 4 and putting him at LT more than Mims or Guyton at 27 and putting him at LT.

3 - Giving up a top 35 pick to move up for a RT is a bad use of resources. Re: trading up for PJJ last year.

 

[kerouac9]

Giving up a top 35 pick to move up for a RT is a bad use of resources. Re: trading up for PJJ last year.

I dunno. If PJJ is only RT, that was very dumb. If they want to use a 3rd to move up from 27 I’m fine with that if they get their guy.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I dunno. If PJJ is only RT, that was very dumb.

How can you possibly draft a guy top 10 to play RT? Just absolute madness if this is the plan.

 

[oaken1]

How can you possibly draft a guy top 10 to play RT? Just absolute madness if this is the plan.

Insanity

 

[kerouac9]

How can you possibly draft a guy top 10 to play RT? Just absolute madness if this is the plan.

Insanity

Even in a talent-poor draft, I don’t know how great the culture fit would have to be.

It’s fine if they like Joe Alt more; it’s just wild to basically foreclose your top 10 pick after one season.

 

[Solar7]

Agreed with everyone that going for an RT (either by acquiring him last year or this one) in the top 10 is just insanely foolish.

 

[Redsz]

Smokescreen. Everyone thinks MHJ at 4 is a lock. This is a ploy to make teams wanting an LT to think about trading up. JMO.

 

[Proteus]

Well they've(PHNX) doubled down that they are desperate for a LT based on what they are hearing. MHJ is the exception to not taking one at 4. Cards dont care what others think as they would have taken PJJ at 3 if not for the trade down. (which is ironic considering they now view him as primarily as a RT)

So they would have used the #3 pick on someone they currently view as a right tackle?

 

[CFLredzoned]

So they would have used the #3 pick on someone they currently view as a right tackle?

No. It just didn't pan out how they hoped it would. Either that or a smokescreen like Redsz just said. It does seem pretty weird to make an announcement like that right before the draft. Why would someone do such a thing?

Or option #3. Johnny V and Brock are FOS. Nobody else is reporting this are they?