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Beal is already untradeable. We'd have to attach stuff to him just to dump the contract.

KD isn't there but I think combining how difficult the logistics would be to move him and finding a team that wants him and he'd be willing to play for makes him basically untradeable during the season. Maybe a suitor comes along in the Summer.
Right now, yes, Beal is untradable. Maybe he stays that way, if so, we're stuck with him. But if we can get him healthy and make him look like a quality starter or a 6th man of the year candidate for a decent stretch of games I think it's possible to move him albeit for minimal return (maybe just a shorter contract). The real tricky part is getting and keeping him healthy.

As I've said several times, I don't think there's an ideal way forward, everything reeks of desperation whether we stay the course or burn it down. But one of the main reasons, perhaps the most important reason, to tear this all down is to put an end to wasting value trying to fix the unfixable. We don't have much to trade away but if this team teases us for a month or so, I'd fully expect us to throw away our 2031 pick. And I think that just extends our misery.
 

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Right now, yes, Beal is untradable. Maybe he stays that way, if so, we're stuck with him. But if we can get him healthy and make him look like a quality starter or a 6th man of the year candidate for a decent stretch of games I think it's possible to move him albeit for minimal return (maybe just a shorter contract). The real tricky part is getting and keeping him healthy.

As I've said several times, I don't think there's an ideal way forward, everything reeks of desperation whether we stay the course or burn it down. But one of the main reasons, perhaps the most important reason, to tear this all down is to put an end to wasting value trying to fix the unfixable. We don't have much to trade away but if this team teases us for a month or so, I'd fully expect us to throw away our 2031 pick. And I think that just extends our misery.
I think that's why there's some smoke to the Jimmy Butler possibility. He's been as injured as Beal lately. I think Miami lets him walk. If Riley thinks Beal could help more than Butler, which I think is hard to see, it could happen because Beal apparently wanted to be in Miami, so he may waive his no trade to go to Miami. Butler comes here, likely he wouldn't pick up his player option, so we could go under the apron a year early. If Butler did pick up his option, then it's same as Butler. Listened to a podcast, and it is really hard to move Butler anywhere other than Phoenix, that is on Butler's list at least.
 

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For the first time, the Pelicans are open to listening to trade offers on Zion Williamson.New Orleans would need to blown away in order to consider even moving Williamson.Williamson’s contract with New Orleans is now non-guaranteed after missing more time due to injuries.
 

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The Hawks are canvassing the trade market utilizing Clint Capela’s $22.3 million expiring contract for a rotational upgrade.Atlanta is in a position to become buyers only 2.5 games out of the No. 3 seed in the Eastern Conference.
 

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For the first time, the Pelicans are open to listening to trade offers on Zion Williamson.New Orleans would need to blown away in order to consider even moving Williamson.Williamson’s contract with New Orleans is now non-guaranteed after missing more time due to injuries.
that would be a risky trade for any trade partner considering Zion rarely plays. surely this is grandstanding.
 

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The Bulls are willing to trade Lonzo Ball for second-round draft capital.Ball’s $21.4 million expiring deal could help a contending team shed future salary, while having a high-upside backup point guard.Ball is averaging 5.4 points, 3.4 assists and 2.9 rebounds in 17 minutes.
 

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that would be a risky trade for any trade partner considering Zion rarely plays. surely this is grandstanding.

Not for a team willing to gamble like Detroit, for example. They could afford to take him on and give him a look next and if it works then they found a sidekick for Cade and if it doesn't they wash their hands and clear his contract. Zion's deal seems well done in terms of if he doesn't get healthy and produce soon then his team won't be on the hook for him long.

If New Orleans thinks they'll get a kings ransom or even what Zion could have attracted 2 years ago, that isn't happening. Stories out on him. A pair of 1sts is probably the best return available.
 

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Not for a team willing to gamble like Detroit, for example. They could afford to take him on and give him a look next and if it works then they found a sidekick for Cade and if it doesn't they wash their hands and clear his contract. Zion's deal seems well done in terms of if he doesn't get healthy and produce soon then his team won't be on the hook for him long.

If New Orleans thinks they'll get a kings ransom or even what Zion could have attracted 2 years ago, that isn't happening. Stories out on him. A pair of 1sts is probably the best return available.
I don't know much about Detroit. I agree though. I would consider giving two firsts for him. that's not that much of a risk IMO in the NBA if/when you don't know how those picks would pan out vs. Zion being able to stay on the court. it could be a wash at the end of the day. the interesting part of this scenario would be if a contending team have a shot to land him and he gets healthy again for a long spell. wishful thinking.
 

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