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I can't stomach Portis but this is a really stupid suspension. Tramadol is one of the weakest RX required painkillers out there, far weaker than oxycodone or hyrdocodone, of which neither I expect NBA players would get suspended for having in their system. 25 games seems ludicrous.

Miles Bridges got 30 games for beating his GF to a pulp.

He probably didn't have a prescription for it. I can't see a player being suspended for it otherwise. Tramadol is weak but if.he's taking someone else's RX then it would make sense. It's more breaking the rules in place than the drug itself, as we saw with Ayton a few years back.
 

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I can't stomach Portis but this is a really stupid suspension. Tramadol is one of the weakest RX required painkillers out there, far weaker than oxycodone or hyrdocodone, of which neither I expect NBA players would get suspended for having in their system. 25 games seems ludicrous.

Miles Bridges got 30 games for beating his GF to a pulp.

Totally agree. I’ve been taking Tramadol off and on lately post knee surgery and there’s not even a sense of getting “high” like there is with oxy or hydrocodone., for me it’s akin to taking really strong Tylenol. This seems like a bad rule.
 

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Found more in the Portis situation....

“I was dealing with an elbow injury and using an NBA-approved medication for pain and inflammation,” Portis said in a statement released by the team. “During that time, I made an honest mistake and took a pain-reducing anti-inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel horrible and recognize that I’m responsible for what I put in my body.”

Portis took the painkiller “unintentionally,” said his agent, Mark Bartelstein. Portis thought he was taking Toradol, which is approved and is something that he has taken before, Bartelstein said in details first given to ESPN and that he later confirmed to The Associated Press. Portis did not realize that he was taking Tramadol — which was properly prescribed, but is on the NBA’s banned substance list.

 

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Totally agree. I’ve been taking Tramadol off and on lately post knee surgery and there’s not even a sense of getting “high” like there is with oxy or hydrocodone., for me it’s akin to taking really strong Tylenol. This seems like a bad rule.
I am allergic to some pain killers so I have taken Tramadol. So benign. This is ridiculous.
 

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Wow... that is even MORE absurd than I first thought.

Why is the NBA so scared of Tramodol?

It's actually viewed a a schedule 4 controlled substance, which I didn't know until now. It's also viewed as a narcotic opoid, which is also strange to me. I've been prescribed it before and thought it as an alternative for narcotic opioids. I remember it being weak, like Cheese said basically a strong Tylenol.

If I had to guess I'd say it got lumped in with more dangerous pain killers and a correction has never been made since the public perception of removing controlled substance labeling and restrictions of a pain killer would c spark conversations those in power don't want to have. The NBA just follows what the FDA and government says regarding narcotics.

Source for controlled substance/opioid description
 

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I've been on Tramadol for a decade for arthritis. Should take one every four hours as needed. I pop four when I get up in the morning. I believe it gives me a little pick up like speed. Forgot to take it many times and it sucked at work but no Joneies
 

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The Cavs are legit. There's a number of teams in the East who could get hot though. Cavs and Celtics at the top. Knicks, Pacers, Bucks, and Magic are all primed to get hot.

I'm looking forward to the East more than the West.
Idk about the Knicks. They are 0-4 against the Celtics and Cavaliers.
 

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There's an article out at CBSsports that ranks the front offices of all 30 teams. The only surprise is we didn't come in dead last, just 28th right above the Luka trading Mavericks. But they certainly nailed us:

No organization in the NBA operates with less foresight than the Suns. That's true in a macro sense, obviously. ESPN's Kevin Arnovitzwrote a lengthy feature about how little stock general manager James Jones puts into the draft. But it's evident on a micro level as well. They are the impulse shoppers of the NBA.

They went after Bradley Beal as a pure talent play, but didn't stop to think that maybe uniting three players on max contracts that do not generate consistent rim pressure might yield diminishing offensive returns and hamstring their ability to field a decent defense. They traded one very valuable unprotected 2031 first-round pick to the Jazz for three very weak picks. At the time, it seemed as though the move was a precursor to a Jimmy Butler trade. It turned out, however, they had no follow-up move lined up. They just sacrificed a very valuable asset for... the theoretical flexibility to trade three worse assets separately? They didn't even think to keep Kevin Durant informed when they discussed trading him at this deadline. That is a very basic star relationship fumble.

It doesn't seem as though decisions are made with a three-year plan in mind, or even a three-month plan for that matter. One minute they're aiming for a big three of Durant, Devin Booker and Jimmy Butler. The next, they're prepared to give up Durant, the best player in that trio, to secure Butler? They're currently on their third coach in three years with no signs of improvement. They control none of their own picks between now and 2031. Ryan Dunn is the only notable young player on the roster, but they somehow managed to give up Toumani Camara, who would eventually grow into the perfect young role player for this roster, as a throw-in when they shipped Deandre Ayton to Portland. It's one thing to ruin your future by going all-in on the present. It's another to botch the present by going all-in on the present. The Suns have done so, and that inspires little trust in their leadership moving forward.
 

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There's an article out at CBSsports that ranks the front offices of all 30 teams. The only surprise is we didn't come in dead last, just 28th right above the Luka trading Mavericks. But they certainly nailed us:

No organization in the NBA operates with less foresight than the Suns. That's true in a macro sense, obviously. ESPN's Kevin Arnovitzwrote a lengthy feature about how little stock general manager James Jones puts into the draft. But it's evident on a micro level as well. They are the impulse shoppers of the NBA.

They went after Bradley Beal as a pure talent play, but didn't stop to think that maybe uniting three players on max contracts that do not generate consistent rim pressure might yield diminishing offensive returns and hamstring their ability to field a decent defense. They traded one very valuable unprotected 2031 first-round pick to the Jazz for three very weak picks. At the time, it seemed as though the move was a precursor to a Jimmy Butler trade. It turned out, however, they had no follow-up move lined up. They just sacrificed a very valuable asset for... the theoretical flexibility to trade three worse assets separately? They didn't even think to keep Kevin Durant informed when they discussed trading him at this deadline. That is a very basic star relationship fumble.

It doesn't seem as though decisions are made with a three-year plan in mind, or even a three-month plan for that matter. One minute they're aiming for a big three of Durant, Devin Booker and Jimmy Butler. The next, they're prepared to give up Durant, the best player in that trio, to secure Butler? They're currently on their third coach in three years with no signs of improvement. They control none of their own picks between now and 2031. Ryan Dunn is the only notable young player on the roster, but they somehow managed to give up Toumani Camara, who would eventually grow into the perfect young role player for this roster, as a throw-in when they shipped Deandre Ayton to Portland. It's one thing to ruin your future by going all-in on the present. It's another to botch the present by going all-in on the present. The Suns have done so, and that inspires little trust in their leadership moving forward.
perty much
 

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It would be great, we'd have Mitchell plus a bunch of younger players we could trade away for over the hill stars. Sorry, I must have bitter beer face and I don't even drink.

The Suns killed my dreams in 2023. Now, all that's left is to see the team shrivel and die. So sad. It's like reliving a nightmare over and over again, but I have a lot of those lately.
 

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