2024 2nd round pick #43 is Max Melton CB

[PDXChris]

Conspiracy theory time!

Maybe we wanted a Kris Jenkins type and targeted Melton at 66, but the run of CBs made Monti get nervous.

 

[Ronin]

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[Zeno]

Are you going to actually debate my argument or me as a person?

No team does what you said. It's just not a thing. The Cardinals very likely had ten players closely graded, so they traded down.

Belichick said as much last night on the Pat McAfee broadcast, he said they make trades down if they have a bunch of players lumped with similar scores, they just make sure they don't trade so far down that they miss out. He said they only trade if it makes sense and there is no significant separation in talent from where they originally pick and where they are moving down to.

 

[Stout]

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He does tackle well for a smaller guy.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Just read he gave up a 65.7 QB Rating last year. Elite.

 

[Stout]

Belichick said as much last night on the Pat McAfee broadcast, he said they make trades down if they have a bunch of players lumped with similar scores, they just make sure they don't trade so far down that they miss out. He said they only trade if it makes sense and there is no significant separation in talent from where they originally pick and where they are moving down to.

Except this is black and white and nothing is black and white in the draft. If it were all so perfectly simple, no GMs would get schooled or screw up trades.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He does tackle well for a smaller guy.

You'll like him soon enough.

Bro, Lassiter went a pick before him and is slower than you and me.

Melton has an insane 40 inch vertical. 4.39 40.

Measureables and food tape.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Except this is black and white and nothing is black and white in the draft. If it were all so perfectly simple, no GMs would get schooled or screw up trades.

This is because some people have different values for players. Hence why Rule Orhorhoro went so high.

 

[Stout]

You'll like him soon enough.

Bro, Lassiter went a pick before him and is slower than you and me.

Melton has an insane 40 inch vertical. 4.39 40.

Measureables and food tape.

I'm not arguing against Melton as a prospect. I'm arguing against the trade back and not getting one of the available CBs when we should have picked.

 

[Zeno]

Except this is black and white and nothing is black and white in the draft. If it were all so perfectly simple, no GMs would get schooled or screw up trades.

Except this is exactly how Belichick said he operated.

The difference is that different teams/scouting departments score players differently for a variety of reasons. Time only tells who made the right decision.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'm not arguing against Melton as a prospect. I'm arguing against the trade back and not getting one of the available CBs when we should have picked.

I liked both players...but I also like Melton.

 

[Mulli]

People are complaining just to complain. Eat some chocolate or ice cream or something

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I'm not arguing against Melton as a prospect. I'm arguing against the trade back and not getting one of the available CBs when we should have picked.

My guess would be that they liked Melton more than those guys and knew they could trade back and get him. Worst case he was simply a part of a group of players that they graded out similarly. He was mostly mocked to go around the top of the 3rd round so they probably wouldn't need to take him at 43 unless they liked him a lot.

 

[gimpy]

I'm not arguing against Melton as a prospect. I'm arguing against the trade back and not getting one of the available CBs when we should have picked.

Your opinion?

Doesn't mean crap in the warroom.

 

[Stout]

Except this is exactly how Belichick said he operated.

The difference is that different teams/scouting departments score players differently for a variety of reasons. Time only tells who made the right decision.

Belicheck is not a GM to model one's drafting after. He was horrendous.

 

[Mulli]

Belicheck is not a GM to model one's drafting after. He was horrendous.

Memory problems

 

[Stout]

My guess would be that they liked Melton more than those guys and knew they could trade back and get him. Worst case he was simply a part of a group of players that they graded out similarly. He was mostly mocked to go around the top of the 3rd round so they probably wouldn't need to take him at 43 unless they liked him a lot.

My guess is they liked the others better but figured if they didn't get lucky, they could live with Melton.

 

[Zeno]

Belicheck is not a GM to model one's drafting after. He was horrendous.

Not early in his Patriots tenure. Once he started picking in the late 20's every year because he was winning multiple Super Bowls his drafting suffered for sure.

 

[ajcardfan]

Conspiracy theory time!

Maybe we wanted a Kris Jenkins type and targeted Melton at 66, but the run of CBs made Monti get nervous.

This is what we will hear....

"Max was at the top of our board. We had a round one grade for him."

 

[slanidrac16]

This is what we will hear....

"Max was at the top of our board. We had a round one grade for him."

Don’t confuse Monti with that other GM.

 

[kerouac9]

Measureables and food tape.

Mmmm… food tape

 

[KiwiCard]

The more I read the more I like him. But I’m an optimist at heart

 

[Syracusecards]

Belichick said as much last night on the Pat McAfee broadcast, he said they make trades down if they have a bunch of players lumped with similar scores, they just make sure they don't trade so far down that they miss out. He said they only trade if it makes sense and there is no significant separation in talent from where they originally pick and where they are moving down to.

The Patriots drafts have been horrible so that’s not really comforting.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Mmmm… food tape

My autocorrect is awful LOL.

 

[Mulli]

The Patriots drafts have been horrible so that’s not really comforting.

Not all of them.