2024 Draft Countdown/NFL Prospects thread

[akg102]

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That photo has the be photoshopped.....his forearm connects mid-bicep.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

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"I've got bursitis", and the horns when he's teeing off at them are comedy gold.

 

[Mulli]

That photo has the be photoshopped.....his forearm connects mid-bicep.

My eyes!

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[TruColor]

My eyes!

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[BullheadCardFan]

The problem with trading down is that this happens to your lower picks

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[SoonerLou]

If only Al Davis were alive today

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[Harry]

Not sure this is true...

Did I retear my ACL graft?

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Am I more likely to tear my ACL again?

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Thus it’s a myth that a repaired ACL offers better protection? Am I missing something?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Thus it’s a myth that a repaired ACL offers better protection? Am I missing something?

I thought you were insinuating that an ACL was less likely to tear after being torn before...I think now that we're in agreement that once an ACL has been torn, it's more likely to tear again.

 

[GatorAZ]

If only Al Davis were alive today

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The ball shot out of his hand like I’ve never seen before damn.

 

[GatorAZ]

Great frame as well:
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[Cbus cardsfan]

The ball shot out of his hand like I’ve never seen before damn.

Probably has the best arm in the draft and, barring injury, will likely never play a meaningful snap in the NFL.

 

[BritCard]

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Or, it's a badly edited image.

That photo has the be photoshopped.....his forearm connects mid-bicep.

Lol I was thinking the same. You can see the line where it's shifted. Cuts the bicep off.

 

[Krangodnzr]

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Monti goes nuts!

Monti trades down with the Giants when Drake Maye falls and they have a chance to move up without giving up too much (#6 and #47). Monti pulls the trigger on this deal because he has the three receivers closely grouped.

At #6 Monti takes Malik Nabers. Why Nabers over Odunze? Speed. Malik Nabers has elite speed and he becomes the focal point of the offense and a moving chess piece across the formation. He'll mainly play in the slot, but will also line up at Z as well.

Monti sees his top rated defender slip a few spots so he gives Denver a call. They couldn't offer a package big enough for the Cardinals to give up on one of the receivers, but Denver did indicate that if they missed out on one of the QBs, they'd be interested in moving down.

Monti offers #27 and #47 and Denver budges because they're in a rebuild and adding another player is appealing.

The Cardinals add Dallas Turner at #12. Turner is ultra-athletic, but one thing that many aren't understanding is that Turner's sack numbers would have been significantly higher. Turner was outstanding in coverage and fits with a lot of what Gannon asks of his OLB.

Another player the Cardinals wanted starts to drop and again Monti starts to call teams and he irons out a trade with the Dolphins to move up and draft Byron Murphy II. Murphy might be a bit undersized but he is extremely strong and quick. Even with Sweat playing on the same line, Murphy often lined up at the NT position which is a testament to his strength.

The Cardinals did not get Marvin Harrison Jr., but they walked away from the first round with three potential building blocks.

While the Cardinals sacrificed their two second round picks, the Cardinals are happy with the front line talent they added. To recuperate the lost picks the Cardinals trade down twice to add more players.

The next player they add is Max Melton who has a ton of experience and a lot of PBUs on his resume. Melton has everything you look for in a corner and could develop into a really good NFL CB.

Another guy I'm extremely excited about is Issac Guerendo who has really low mileage but is extremely explosive and has good size.

 

[oaken1]

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Monti goes nuts!

Monti trades down with the Giants when Drake Maye falls and they have a chance to move up without giving up too much (#6 and #47). Monti pulls the trigger on this deal because he has the three receivers closely grouped.

At #6 Monti takes Malik Nabers. Why Nabers over Odunze? Speed. Malik Nabers has elite speed and he becomes the focal point of the offense and a moving chess piece across the formation. He'll mainly play in the slot, but will also line up at Z as well.

Monti sees his top rated defender slip a few spots so he gives Denver a call. They couldn't offer a package big enough for the Cardinals to give up on one of the receivers, but Denver did indicate that if they missed out on one of the QBs, they'd be interested in moving down.

Monti offers #27 and #47 and Denver budges because they're in a rebuild and adding another player is appealing.

The Cardinals add Dallas Turner at #12. Turner is ultra-athletic, but one thing that many aren't understanding is that Turner's sack numbers would have been significantly higher. Turner was outstanding in coverage and fits with a lot of what Gannon asks of his OLB.

Another player the Cardinals wanted starts to drop and again Monti starts to call teams and he irons out a trade with the Dolphins to move up and draft Byron Murphy II. Murphy might be a bit undersized but he is extremely strong and quick. Even with Sweat playing on the same line, Murphy often lined up at the NT position which is a testament to his strength.

The Cardinals did not get Marvin Harrison Jr., but they walked away from the first round with three potential building blocks.

While the Cardinals sacrificed their two second round picks, the Cardinals are happy with the front line talent they added. To recuperate the lost picks the Cardinals trade down twice to add more players.

The next player they add is Max Melton who has a ton of experience and a lot of PBUs on his resume. Melton has everything you look for in a corner and could develop into a really good NFL CB.

Another guy I'm extremely excited about is Issac Guerendo who has really low mileage but is extremely explosive and has good size.

That's almost decent . But I would happily trade your last six choices for a second round WR.
We are in desperate need of size on the perimeter

 

[Krangodnzr]

That's almost decent . But I would happily trade your last six choices for a second round WR.
We are in desperate need of size on the perimeter

The thing is, the draft is really about maximizing your opportunities.

The Rams had 14 choices and got 4 good starters, one of them arguably great.

The Cardinals have enough needs that using a 2nd rounder is probably taking the 8th best receiver while there are 3rd best players at other positions of need.

 

[oaken1]

The thing is, the draft is really about maximizing your opportunities.

The Rams had 14 choices and got 4 good starters, one of them arguably great.

The Cardinals have enough needs that using a 2nd rounder is probably taking the 8th best receiver while there are 3rd best players at other positions of need.

3rd best or 8th best dont mean poo...especially when its quite possible the 8th best wr in this draft would have been 2nd last year or 1st next year.
its about evaluating talent. Not on how they rank against the draft class but against how they rate overall.

example. Amarius Mims... most have him around OT5 or 6 in this draft... but its likely had he stayed in college another year he would be OT1 next year...2 at worst...because the talent is there.

with this draft being so rich in OT and WR its very likely the second round gets you a guy who would be a first rounder in most drafts.

you dont waste your chance at obvious talent to get more shots at developmental talent

 

[Krangodnzr]

3rd best or 8th best dont mean poo...especially when its quite possible the 8th best wr in this draft would have been 2nd last year or 1st next year.

Eh disagree heavily. Last year's WR was actually really good.

its about evaluating talent. Not on how they rank against the draft class but against how they rate overall.

I'd rather have any of the top edge or DTs than Franklin.

example. Amarius Mims... most have him around OT5 or 6 in this draft... but its likely had he stayed in college another year he would be OT1 next year...2 at worst...because the talent is there.

Maybe. Mims has like 8 starts.

with this draft being so rich in OT and WR its very likely the second round gets you a guy who would be a first rounder in most drafts.

I think it mostly means 2nd round guys don't creep into the first round like what happened last year

you dont waste your chance at obvious talent to get more shots at developmental talent

Hence why I traded up for a 3rd first rounder.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Monti goes nuts!

Monti trades down with the Giants when Drake Maye falls and they have a chance to move up without giving up too much (#6 and #47). Monti pulls the trigger on this deal because he has the three receivers closely grouped.

At #6 Monti takes Malik Nabers. Why Nabers over Odunze? Speed. Malik Nabers has elite speed and he becomes the focal point of the offense and a moving chess piece across the formation. He'll mainly play in the slot, but will also line up at Z as well.

Monti sees his top rated defender slip a few spots so he gives Denver a call. They couldn't offer a package big enough for the Cardinals to give up on one of the receivers, but Denver did indicate that if they missed out on one of the QBs, they'd be interested in moving down.

Monti offers #27 and #47 and Denver budges because they're in a rebuild and adding another player is appealing.

The Cardinals add Dallas Turner at #12. Turner is ultra-athletic, but one thing that many aren't understanding is that Turner's sack numbers would have been significantly higher. Turner was outstanding in coverage and fits with a lot of what Gannon asks of his OLB.

Another player the Cardinals wanted starts to drop and again Monti starts to call teams and he irons out a trade with the Dolphins to move up and draft Byron Murphy II. Murphy might be a bit undersized but he is extremely strong and quick. Even with Sweat playing on the same line, Murphy often lined up at the NT position which is a testament to his strength.

The Cardinals did not get Marvin Harrison Jr., but they walked away from the first round with three potential building blocks.

While the Cardinals sacrificed their two second round picks, the Cardinals are happy with the front line talent they added. To recuperate the lost picks the Cardinals trade down twice to add more players.

The next player they add is Max Melton who has a ton of experience and a lot of PBUs on his resume. Melton has everything you look for in a corner and could develop into a really good NFL CB.

Another guy I'm extremely excited about is Issac Guerendo who has really low mileage but is extremely explosive and has good size.

I don’t see any of those three trades as being realistic.

 

[football karma]

I don’t see any of those three trades as being realistic.

i could see the Giants one just because a QB is their target, but after that.....

the PFF trade machine seems to over value later picks

 

[Garthshort]

I don’t see any of those three trades as being realistic.

Who cares. It's great fun reading about all things that will probably never happen. Congrats, Krang for demonstrating your FB knowledge, and I appreciate your work.

P.S. I think that the trade with the Giants is very realistic and might happen.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don’t see any of those three trades as being realistic.

Trading down in the later first round generally nets much lower picks than you would expect. I agree definitely on the second trade with Denver that it was less that I thought it would be, so I pounced on it.

With basically seven top 100 picks, the Cardinals have more draft ammo than I have ever seen. If they want, they can move up to get a player they covet.

 

[gimpy]

If they don't covet a qb, they can stay right where they are and get the guy they covet, right?

 

[GatorAZ]

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[kerouac9]

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Hate to see BeeJay in the lower-left quadrant there. SO MUCH BEND!

 

[football karma]

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also interesting that of the two Alabama edge guys -- its Chris Braswell who looks good on this chart and not Dallas Turner