2024 Free Agency thread

[daves]

I don't think we have an open #2 spot open. I believe @Chopper0080 is right that we're looking for a 3rd WR with flexibility inside and outside.

Neither OBJ nor DJ Chark are all that interested in competing with Greg Dortch, I think. Especially in an offense that wants to run the ball a significant amount.

I think Chark would be worthy of and interested in competing with Wilson for the #2 role. At his best (2019) he's a 6'3" 1000 yard 8 TD Pro Bowl WR; at worst (2022-2023) he misses 6 games and puts up 500+ with 3-5 TDs - just like Wilson. Maybe the two of them together give the Cardinals a reliable #2.

Edit: nevermind - looks as though he just signed with the Chargers.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think Chark would be worthy of and interested in competing with Wilson for the #2 role. At his best (2019) he's a 6'3" 1000 yard 8 TD Pro Bowl WR; at worst (2022-2023) he misses 6 games and puts up 500+ with 3-5 TDs - just like Wilson. Maybe the two of them together give the Cardinals a reliable #2.

Edit: nevermind - looks as though he just signed with the Chargers.

Chark is a complete JAG though, and a low volume JAG to boot. I'm glad he isn't a Cardinal.

His career 55.4% doesn't move the needle much. He's Robbie Chosen.

 

[Ronin]

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[BritCard]

I thought we were told that teams didn’t sign rookies for extensions before they were free agents.

@BritCard

Nope. Absolutely not what I said.

I said that players who are not already proven, ie they are not considered top 10 in the NFL, or have not made AP or PB are not signed in the 3rd year.

Massive JAGs like Zach Allen or Byron Murphy are never signed early. Players like St. Brown and Penei Sewell who have absolutely proven their worth should be signed early.

That's exactly what I said before, you can go back and check is you like.

Sad, but totally not unsurprising, that you would try to misrepresent what I said.

 

[QuebecCard]

Nope. Absolutely not what I said.

I said that players who are not already proven, ie they are not considered top 10 in the NFL, or have not made AP or PB are not signed in the 3rd year.

Massive JAGs like Zach Allen or Byron Murphy are never signed early. Players like St. Brown and Penei Sewell who have absolutely proven their worth should be signed early.

That's exactly what I said before, you can go back and check is you like.

Sad, but totally not unsurprising, that you would try to misrepresent what I said.

He's the master of half the facts, half the story.

 

[Ronin]

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[Chopper0080]

So...about Treylon Burks?

 

[iLLmatiC]

That would've been a nice signing for us.

 

[Ronin]

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[Krangodnzr]

So...about Treylon Burks?

I watched a YouTube video made by a Titans fan who was arguing that circumstances (injuries) have been his primary issue.

Basically he gets hurt, then comes back and takes some time to get going, starts showing something, then misses games again.

I'd only go for a late round flyer on a guy like him, a conditional late round flyer at that.

 

[CardNots]

I watched a YouTube video made by a Titans fan who was arguing that circumstances (injuries) have been his primary issue.

Basically he gets hurt, then comes back and takes some time to get going, starts showing something, then misses games again.

I'd only go for a late round flyer on a guy like him, a conditional late round flyer at that.

hard pass

 

[Krangodnzr]

hard pass

That's why I said late round conditional pick, meaning he has to actually do something for the Titans to get something.

In NFL parlance, that means he's basically worthless.

 

[BritCard]

So...about Treylon Burks?

I'm always willing to give up conditional late round picks for guys that were once thought to be 1st round talent.

I never really liked Burks coming out, but at the very worst he's Chris Moore. I'm ok with giving up a 7th that might turn into a 6th.

 

[PDXChris]

Bummer we let him leave! I think the Cardinals give him the best chance to reset his market next year, so I hope he's just doing his due diligence

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[ASUCHRIS]

Bummer we let him leave! I think the Cardinals give him the best chance to reset his market next year, so I hope he's just doing his due diligence

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Indeed, we're in desperate need of adults in the room, and he won't be expensive.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Indeed, we're in desperate need of adults in the room, and he won't be expensive.

Eh he might think he's worth more than he is because teams are obviously lining up visits.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Eh he might think he's worth more than he is because teams are obviously lining up visits.

I doubt he'll get more than 2 years or 5M per year, which should be very easy for us to manage.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I doubt he'll get more than 2 years or 5M per year, which should be very easy for us to manage.

He probably doesn't want two years.

It's either longer with bigger guarantees or a short deal to reset his market. He's not getting any younger.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I doubt he'll get more than 2 years or 5M per year, which should be very easy for us to manage.

He also probably wants more than $5M per. His last contract was bigger, and players generally want the same or more.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

He also probably wants more than $5M per. His last contract was bigger, and players generally want the same or more.

We'll see what he gets...FA is basically done, and all the big money is spent. Now you have a bunch of guys fighting for roster spots.

 

[Krangodnzr]

We'll see what he gets...FA is basically done, and all the big money is spent. Now you have a bunch of guys fighting for roster spots.

Outside of Jones and Thomas, the rest are probably only Pascal level players.

You could kick the tires on Renfrow (slot), MVS, or Corey Davis.

 

[BritCard]

Outside of Jones and Thomas, the rest are probably only Pascal level players.

You could kick the tires on Renfrow (slot), MVS, or Corey Davis.

Corey Davis is better, larger Zay Jones that had a year off and will cost less money.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He probably doesn't want two years.

It's either longer with bigger guarantees or a short deal to reset his market. He's not getting any younger.

If he wants to reset his market, I can think of better places than the Cards.

 

[PDXChris]

I bet he doesn't leave KC. With Rice probably being suspended next season, they need him now.

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[ASUCHRIS]

He probably doesn't want two years.

It's either longer with bigger guarantees or a short deal to reset his market. He's not getting any younger.

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