2025 Arizona Cardinals off season thread.

[ajcardfan]

Hopefully it means they'll be aggressive in younger free agents, rather than spending or overspending for the Dwight freeneys of the world. They're going to want guys that can have an impact immediately and in the future not just be one year and done.

That was the reasoning we used in free agency last year. So, yeah, that's what Monti will try to do. Let's hope it works out better this time.

 

[az jam]

Only morons build teams in FA. Of all the options it's the least value and the highest chance of striking out.

FA is for building your depth and breadth of the roster, along with later round draft picks. If you want to add stars you try draft them and you trade for them.

He may well be many things, but he's not wrong on this and it's literally how every team thinks.

Agree and Bidwill did say that Cards will be active in free agency but he and Monti both feel the draft is the best way to build the team.

 

[CardNots]

How many FAs did we acquire last year?

Of those, how many produced value equivalent to their contract?

I’m too lazy to do the research but I’m sure management does which might explain their thoughts on the upcoming free agency period.

I’d rather focus on trades…

 

[kerouac9]

How many FAs did we acquire last year?

Of those, how many produced value equivalent to their contract?

I’m too lazy to do the research but I’m sure management does which might explain their thoughts on the upcoming free agency period.

I’d rather focus on trades…

Well Philly signed three all pros in free agency last season so sometimes it works out I guess.

If the Monti is going to pack up his bags on one of the major paths to improving your team, he should just resign.

 

[602 Native]

Only morons build teams in FA. Of all the options it's the least value and the highest chance of striking out.

FA is for building your depth and breadth of the roster, along with later round draft picks. If you want to add stars you try draft them and you trade for them.

He may well be many things, but he's not wrong on this and it's literally how every team thinks.

Building throughFA and not getting any tools are two very different things.

MO hasn’t lit the world on fire in either aspect of building this team. Draft and especially FA.

He has made some good promo videos about his deal making in not drafting a possible All Pro defensive edge.

Why are you thinking that there is some all or none choice here when no one said it?

 

[602 Native]

Well Philly signed three all pros in free agency last season so sometimes it works out I guess.

If the Monti is going to pack up his bags on one of the major paths to improving your team, he should just resign.

Philly is actually a well run franchise that knows how to win.

We just have fans and media willing to accept mediocrity and the occasional playoff appearance and stick up for the worst owner in professional sports.

Imagine the owner of the biggest sports franchise in the city and the media don’t ask a single question about another lawsuit involving him and how he has a bad reputation in running said team.

Even in this thread you got Brit talking about how the Cards know how to build a team. It’s embarrassing.

 

[602 Native]

Agree and Bidwill did say that Cards will be active in free agency but he and Monti both feel the draft is the best way to build the team.

Bidwill has never said one thing and done another.

 

[BigDavis75]

Well Philly signed three all pros in free agency last season so sometimes it works out I guess.

If the Monti is going to pack up his bags on one of the major paths to improving your team, he should just resign.

Who was the third after saquon and Baun?

 

[kerouac9]

Who was the third after saquon and Baun?

LOL I was just parroting a stat I heard on a podcast. I think they mean CJ Gardner Johnson.

 

[Stout]

Building throughFA and not getting any tools are two very different things.

MO hasn’t lit the world on fire in either aspect of building this team. Draft and especially FA.

He has made some good promo videos about his deal making in not drafting a possible All Pro defensive edge.

Why are you thinking that there is some all or none choice here when no one said it?

We two are rarely in full agreement. We are in full agreement here. I'm bracing for the "Relax, there was literally no one we could have signed who could have helped us" and "We can't make players sign here, I'm sure Monti tried his best" excuses.

 

[Cheesebeef]

We two are rarely in full agreement. We are in full agreement here. I'm bracing for the "Relax, there was literally no one we could have signed who could have helped us" and "We can't make players sign here, I'm sure Monti tried his best" excuses.

What I really can’t wait for is for people to start parroting Mikey’s “BJ Ojulari is going to be dominant” vomit he spewed when spinning about spending money on FA.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This is expected…

Ftfy

 

[Crimson Warrior]

We two are rarely in full agreement. We are in full agreement here. I'm bracing for the "Relax, there was literally no one we could have signed who could have helped us" and "We can't make players sign here, I'm sure Monti tried his best" excuses.

MO might have a longer leash than JG, but if he doesn't improve the roster this offseason, he's setting himself up to get fired.

If things go really bad this year, and JG gets canned, they likely have to restart the rebuild. MO then might have one more year in 2026 with a crippled roster to save his job, and I wouldn't like his chances.

Less than nine wins this year and the rebuild is a failure. 2025 is win or go home.

 

[Stout]

MO might have a longer leash than JG, but if he doesn't improve the roster this offseason, he's setting himself up to get fired.

If things go really bad this year, and JG gets canned, they likely have to restart the rebuild. MO then might have one more year in 2026 with a crippled roster to save his job, and I wouldn't like his chances.

Less than nine wins this year and the rebuild is a failure. 2025 is win or go home.

I would want to retain JG with a chance to work with an improved roster under a competent GM.

 

[Harry]

What I really can’t wait for is for people to start parroting Mikey’s “BJ Ojulari is going to be dominant” vomit he spewed when spinning about spending money on FA.

I’m not convinced of “dominant” but I do think he’ll be a decent contributor. Edges normally take 3 years to fully blossom. He’s really only had 1 year. He’s another guy who could take a step forward. If the Cards do sign or draft a productive Edge, he could benefit from the competition or the increased defensive pressure.

 

[slanidrac16]

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Michael Bidwill to @Bickley_Marotta on the reasoning for the 20-40% price hike in season tickets:“We’ve seen inflation, and it’s impacted our business too, the sports industry. So we’ve got to continue to keep up. We're trying to offer more value when we do that."

Poor baby. Things are so bad they have to pay for a bigger knife to slice up the pie.

 

[602 Native]

We two are rarely in full agreement. We are in full agreement here. I'm bracing for the "Relax, there was literally no one we could have signed who could have helped us" and "We can't make players sign here, I'm sure Monti tried his best" excuses.

We better sign some studs in FA on defense I know that.

This defensive front 7 was woefully understaffed the last two seasons and these puffball interviews aren’t inspiring confidence..

“What do you think will get fans not to sell their tickets to home games?”

Bidwill: there are lots of ways we will address this.

Bro, how about you just say we are going to put a much better product on the field and win.

We don’t hate Bidwill enough.

 

[cardpa]

I have to chuckle when anyone states that Monti is going to get himself fired if he doesn't do better. As long as Monti is doing or at least following the guidelines given to him by Michael he is on solid ground. Look at how many years Keim stuck around when he should have been fired for his incompetence. And does Michael have a thing for shaved headed GMs?

 

[Stout]

I have to chuckle when anyone states that Monti is going to get himself fired if he doesn't do better. As long as Monti is doing or at least following the guidelines given to him by Michael he is on solid ground. Look at how many years Keim stuck around when he should have been fired for his incompetence. And does Michael have a thing for shaved headed GMs?

That's why I always use "should" or a similar qualifier. Bidwill is his father's son, only without any of the excuses Dollar Bill had.

 

[BritCard]

That's why I always use "should" or a similar qualifier. Bidwill is his father's son, only without any of the excuses Dollar Bill had.

Monti is nowhere near being fired, or *should* be near being fired.

His drafts have both been better than anything Keim ever did. Paris and MHJ are both going to be top 15 players at their positions. Garret Williams also likely. I really like DTD and think he has star potential. Still have been better than any late round pick Keim ever had and I think he has the potential to be a good NFL player.

Beej, Melton, Benson, Adams, Reiman and Wilson are all still works in progress but have potential. He's found some good contributors on good deals in FA, guys like Fro, Mac Wilson, Evan Brown, Gillikin etc,

Y'all just mad because he hasn't splashed on a big FA name because you think that means something.

 

[Stout]

Monti is nowhere near being fired, or *should* be near being fired.

His drafts have both been better than anything Keim ever did. Paris and MHJ are both going to be top 15 players at their positions. Garret Williams also likely. I really like DTD and think he has star potential. Still have been better than any late round pick Keim ever had and I think he has the potential to be a good NFL player.

Beej, Melton, Benson, Adams, Reiman and Wilson are all still works in progress but have potential. He's found some good contributors on good deals in FA, guys like Fro, Mac Wilson, Evan Brown, Gillikin etc,

Y'all just mad because he hasn't splashed on a big FA name because you think that means something.

Oh, Company Man, no. Interpretation fail.

He shouldn't be fired yet and he's not on the hot seat yet. Should he fail this offseason, yet again, he certainly should be on the hot seat at the very least. Or, hey, we could just continually miss the playoffs, wait for an ephemeral rebuild to succeed, and just keep him around for years on end. Kind of the Bidwill way.

The last just made me laugh out loud (well, under my breath at work) because you willfully distort anything any non-Bidwillian/Ossenfortian cultists have to say when there's the slightest bit of disagreement with the company line.

 

[Chopper0080]

Monti is nowhere near being fired, or *should* be near being fired.

His drafts have both been better than anything Keim ever did. Paris and MHJ are both going to be top 15 players at their positions. Garret Williams also likely. I really like DTD and think he has star potential. Still have been better than any late round pick Keim ever had and I think he has the potential to be a good NFL player.

Beej, Melton, Benson, Adams, Reiman and Wilson are all still works in progress but have potential. He's found some good contributors on good deals in FA, guys like Fro, Mac Wilson, Evan Brown, Gillikin etc,

Y'all just mad because he hasn't splashed on a big FA name because you think that means something.

I'm not really sure how you plan on gauging this but I would say Stills has been comparable to JJ Nelson and Andre Ellington who were both late round picks by Keim. All three were role players who flashed decent production for that role.

Kinda feel like you didn't do much research on this. Where do you place McBride on Keim's draft resume? Tyrann Mathieu? Alex Okafor? John Brown? DJ? Golden? David Johnson? Reddick? Budda Baker? Christian Kirk? Kyler Murray? Byron Murphy? Zach Allen?

Defending Keim makes me sick, but his drafts are an example of even bad GMs can hit on good players. Monti has not demonstrated that he is a better drafter than Keim to this point. Hopefully he passes Keim but I haven't seen much to make me think he will other than being a better person (which is a low bar).

 

[ajcardfan]

I'm not really sure how you plan on gauging this but I would say Stills has been comparable to JJ Nelson and Andre Ellington who were both late round picks by Keim. All three were role players who flashed decent production for that role.

Kinda feel like you didn't do much research on this. Where do you place McBride on Keim's draft resume? Tyrann Mathieu? Alex Okafor? John Brown? DJ? Golden? David Johnson? Reddick? Budda Baker? Christian Kirk? Kyler Murray? Byron Murphy? Zach Allen?

Defending Keim makes me sick, but his drafts are an example of even bad GMs can hit on good players. Monti has not demonstrated that he is a better drafter than Keim to this point. Hopefully he passes Keim but I haven't seen much to make me think he will other than being a better person (which is a low bar).

Most GMs, both good and bad, hit about 50% of their draft picks as quality starters in the FIRST round, much less something like round 6. By the time you get past round 3, you are talking single digits. In fact, it's more likely that UNDRAFTED players significantly contribute than players drafted in rounds 4 to 7. Which is simply due to numbers. You take more UDFA to camp that draft picks.

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