2nd Round RB

[kerouac9]

My favorite backs are Mike Gillislee fro Florida and, if he comes out, Eddie Lacy from Bama. Neither are worthy of hig second roud draft picks. The earliest I'd look at RB is round 3 and, more likely, round 4.

The Cards should hire Section 11 to come in as a positional consultant and just point out the best running back in the draft class. He's uncanny at it. Wouldn't it be worth $15K to the Cards to get the best RB in a draft class every three years?

 

[Jetstream Green]

The Cards should hire Section 11 to come in as a positional consultant and just point out the best running back in the draft class. He's uncanny at it. Wouldn't it be worth $15K to the Cards to get the best RB in a draft class every three years?

Bring em on board Mikey

 

[WildBB]

I like Barner from OR in the 4th round

Word. One round earlier.

 

[Bodha]

Top Tier Guards can be found in the 2nd round.


Usually only the elite G's get drafted in the 1st. But the 2nd best G is still pretty damn good.


We could grab Cooper, Warford, Jones, etc.

We need to replace Snyder.

 

[Duckjake]

Top Tier Guards can be found in the 2nd round.


Usually only the elite G's get drafted in the 1st. But the 2nd best G is still pretty damn good.


We could grab Cooper, Warford, Jones, etc.

We need to replace Snyder.

Got to stick to BPA so if the first 3 BPA's when we draft are Round 1. WR, 2. RB, and 3.DE that's who we need to select. They'll just have to figure out another way to get a Guard.

Don't want to be taking any David DeCastros instead of a Michael Floyd because that's how we ended up with Levi Brown instead of Adrian Peterson.

 

[Southpaw]

UNC's Giovani Bernard opts for draft Updated

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8746488/north-carolina-tar-heels-rb-giovani-bernard-declares-nfl-draft

UNC's Giovani Bernard opts for draft
Updated: December 14, 2012, 9:29 AM ET
By Heather Dinich | ESPN.com



North Carolina Tar Heels sophomore tailback Giovani Bernard, the nation's top punt returner, will forgo his final two years of college eligibility and enter the 2013 NFL Draft, the school announced on Friday.

Bernard, who led the nation with 16.44 yards per punt return, is draft-eligible because he has been out of high school for three years. He redshirted in 2010 and has been a first-team all-conference selection each of the past two years.

Bernard, ranked No. 11 in the country in rushing yards per game (122.8), is ranked No. 1 at his position by ESPN.com and No. 52 overall.


He is not a projected first-round pick by ESPN's Todd McShay, but his lead blocker -- offensive tackle Jonathan Cooper -- is.

 

[john h]

Since the Cards have a good shot at picking top 8, the 2nd round choice could be premium value. I nominate Giovanni Bernard N Car RB. Top rated RB in this draft class. Dump Beanie Wells if possible and deal with the opinion that Ryan Williams can't stay off the IR.

Wells is not the RB I thought he was and it is not because of the OL. I also suggest we move him and get a RB in the draft. If you are smart you can find a good RB deep in any draft. I have no idea what Jefferson is. He is injured all the time which is not a good sign for a RB. Most teams today have two good RBs and often have them alternating so you have fresh legs out there. Right now our best RB is LSH and he has gained only 300+ yards the entire season. That does not get it. I agree if one of the top RBs is available in round two then get him or a good OT. We need to have a 5 STAR draft and changes at the top.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Why burn another high pick on a RB when it's been proven over and over and over again that you can get productive runners in the middle and late rounds? The problem with the running game isn't the talent of our backs; it's their ability to stay healthy and (even more) the garbage interior offensive linemen that we've expected to block for them.

Don't tell Shane or the other haters, but this running game has been pretty stagnant since Deuce Lutui was sent to the bench. That's probably a coincidence, though.

Use our first-rounder on a QB, our second rounder on a guard, and watch this offense take off in late 2013.

This, because I think one can get a good back in the 4th and 5th rounds if you have a decent scouting staff and there are even some good backs which get undrafted and we see that more frequently now

 

[JeffGollin]

Trying to scope out who will be available at or near #30 - RB or otherwise - is tantamount to trying to hit a moving dart board blindfolded.

We have needs to fill at a variety of positions and it might be unwise to pass up, say, a good QB prospect or potential starting offensive lineman in order to draft a lesser-rated RB.

Or not - it depends on who's still on our board. Plus you never know whether there will be,the opportunity to trade up into the 1st round to steal a guy we want or to trade down for extra picks (or a QB?)

 

[Snakester]

Not that I would use our second rounder on a RB but I have liked Eddie Lacy this year.

 

[Duckjake]

No Running backs in the second round. Not next year, not ever.

 

[JeffGollin]

No Running backs in the second round. Not next year, not ever.

Just to be contentious -

What if a specific year was so deep in RB talent that 2 or 3 RB's your scouts rated as Pro Bowl caliber prospects and also met the athletic profile to fit a gaping hole in your running game somehow fell to you at #40? Do you pass on them because of some arbitrary rule you established about "no RB's in the second round?"

Never say never.

 

[Duckjake]

Just to be contentious -

What if a specific year was so deep in RB talent that 2 or 3 RB's your scouts rated as Pro Bowl caliber prospects and also met the athletic profile to fit a gaping hole in your running game somehow fell to you at #40? Do you pass on them because of some arbitrary rule you established about "no RB's in the second round?"

Never say never.

No RBs in the 2nd round ever. No matter the circumstances. Any other team can take a 2nd round RB but not the Cardinals. You obviously don't believe in Cardinal jinxes. Every RB they have taken in the 2nd round in the last 50 years has been a failure. And there are a lot of them. Ryan Williams is just the latest. 2nd round pick on IR twice already.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Just to be contentious -

What if a specific year was so deep in RB talent that 2 or 3 RB's your scouts rated as Pro Bowl caliber prospects and also met the athletic profile to fit a gaping hole in your running game somehow fell to you at #40? Do you pass on them because of some arbitrary rule you established about "no RB's in the second round?"

Never say never.

Duckjake is basing this off our weird and otherworldly past and the more I have watched this team...the more the mystic aspects of futility have been revealed. Duck is an ancient monk now of our book of secrets LOL Yes, no running backs in the second round and we must draft Sorenson out of S.Utah if we expect to find a player that is able to play when the rabid wild North American parrot is cursed upon his helmet. I will also add this. If there is a safety in the draft named Wilson, we must draft him

 

[JeffGollin]

No RBs in the 2nd round ever. No matter the circumstances. Any other team can take a 2nd round RB but not the Cardinals. You obviously don't believe in Cardinal jinxes. Every RB they have taken in the 2nd round in the last 50 years has been a failure. And there are a lot of them. Ryan Williams is just the latest. 2nd round pick on IR twice already.

I just reviewed every Cardinal draft for the past 70+ years and you're right. There must be 15 - 20 running back busts drafted by us in the 2nd round during that period. (It's hard to post the list using my I-Pad, but if you have the time, you might want to go thru the Media Guide and post it so we can "read it and gag.")

Only possible exceptions - Marshall ("Biggie") Goldberg in 1939 and Johnny Karras in 1952 (who was overshadowed by that year's 1st round pick, Ollie Matson).

 

[Duckjake]

I just reviewed every Cardinal draft for the past 70+ years and you're right. There must be 15 - 20 running back busts drafted by us in the 2nd round during that period. (It's hard to post the list using my I-Pad, but if you have the time, you might want to go thru the Media Guide and post it so we can "read it and gag.")

Only possible exceptions - Marshall ("Biggie") Goldberg in 1939 and Johnny Karras in 1952 (who was overshadowed by that year's 1st round pick, Ollie Matson).

It's uncanny. 10 of them from Bob Jackson 1962 to Ryan Williams 2010.

Jackson, Germany, Franklin,Theotis Brown, Tony Jeffrey, Anthony Thompson, Chuck Levy, McElroy, Arrington and Williams.

Not only did none of these guys do anything for the Cards they never performed anywhere else!*

On the other hand look at round 1: Ollie Matson, John David Crow, MacArthur Lane, OJ Anderson, Garrison Hearst, Thomas Jones.

*Williams still has a chance to do something but with two injuries in two years plus missing time in college I don't know....