A Better Head Coach?

[Billy Flynt]

It seems that more than half of the Board is interested in dumping Dennis Green and there have been dozens of suggestions as to who should replace him. Meanwhile many say that there are problems further up the organization that make it impossible to make this team successful.

My hypothetical question is this:
Of all the current HCs in the NFL, who would you choose to lead this team?
Bellichek, Parcells, who?

 

[Shane]

It seems that more than half of the Board is interested in dumping Dennis Green and there have been dozens of suggestions as to who should replace him. Meanwhile many say that there are problems further up the organization that make it impossible to make this team successful.

My hypothetical question is this:
Of all the current HCs in the NFL, who would you choose to lead this team?
Bellichek, Parcells, who?

Jeff Fisher

 

[vince56]

Jeff Fisher

I agree.

 

[az jam]

I would take Cowher. Can you imagine how he would shape up this team!!!

 

[Shane]

I would take Cowher. Can you imagine how he would shape up this team!!!

I would take him too. But Pittsburgh will extend him.

 

[BACH]

IMO we need a creative, offensive, no-nonsense coach to give this young team a spark and improve the adjustments.

Andy Reid is probably the best fit.

 

[Shane]

IMO we need a creative, offensive, no-nonsense coach to give this young team a spark and improve the adjustments.

Andy Reid is probably the best fit.

Andy Reid isnt available.

 

[Pariah]

Andy Reid isnt available.

That wasn't the question.

 

[Shane]

That wasn't the question.

True I read it wrong. However lets be realistic in this. At Least Fisher and Cowher are in final years of their contracts if Im not mistaken and hypothetically are available by years end.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I don't understand the fascination with Fisher. He's a pretty good coach but his credentials are probably less than Green's were when he was hired and people griped about Denny.Fisher has the one Super Bowl appearance but, other than that, his record isn't overwhelming. In fact, he has been on the verge,much like Green, of being fired a few times but his team rallied and saved his job. He could turn to be a great hire if it would happen but he is, by no means, a slam dunk to be successful. I think alot of people are assuming Green is going to be gone. I'm not so sure. If Leinart performs like alot of us expect and shows signs of being able to turn it around then i think DG will buy himself another year. I don't necessarily agree with it but i think that well may be the case. One thing about Bidwill, and some say it's cheapness so he doesn't have to pay a buyout, is that he usually let's a coach hang around than what is expected. It all depends on who Michael Bidwill supports and thinks is better for the franchise, Green or Graves. I see one of them being let go and the other staying on.

 

[JeffGollin]

There was an interesting article in USA Today about three coaching "family trees" headed by (1) Bill Walsh (Holmgren, Dennis), (2) Parcells (Belicheck, Mangini) and (3) Schottenheimer (Cowher & I think Fisher).

I mention this in light of (a) an earlier post where I suggested that in a situation where the offense struggled but the defense was talented, a coach like Parcells or Belicheck would accept reality, pull in his horns, challenge his defense to play even better and opt to win boring 9 - 7 or 13 - 10 type contests, (b) a comment by Edge that "we're going to have to lean more on the Cardinal defense" and (c) DG's comment that "no, we can't ask our defense to do any more than they've been doing."

This illustrates the critical difference in the 2 coaching philosophies (Belicheck or Parcells would demand more of his defense).

Who would represent the ideal type of HC "after Dennis" is open to debate.

Right now, the Cards are on a high-powered offensive track. Prior to that, the Bidwills have experimented with the the nose to the grindstone style of Buges, the high risk/high reward style of Buddy Ryan, the low risk/low reward style of Vince Tobin, the high emotion/high effort approach of Coach Mac.

My conclusion - Don't worry about style and philosophy and focus on the bottom line - Go with the guy who knows how to win and has the consistent track record to show for it.

(Note - The guy could still be DG - He still has 12 games to save the season).

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Bill Belichick ... hands down ...

 

[BigRedArk]

Bill Belichick ... hands down ...

I agree. The man knows how to coach and win.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree. The man knows how to coach and win.

He sure didn't know how to in Cleveland.

 

[hailgunther]

I gotta tell ya. In all honesty If I could pick a coach other then Herm Edwards to coach the Chiefs right now. Dennis Green would be one of my top 4 picks.

 

[daves]

Jeff Fisher

Two things about Fisher might complicate his potential hiring by the Cardinals - he was a disciple of Buddy Ryan, and McGinness is his "assistant HC / Linebackers".

I wonder whether the Bidwills' likely disdain for Ryan would cause them to rule out Fisher as an HC candidate... and whether having McGinness on his staff might cause Fisher to rule out the Cardinals as an employer (either because of the awkwardness of keeping McGinness on his staff in Arizona, the awkwardness of not inviting McGinness to join him in Arizona, or because of the things McGinness may have told him about the Cardinals).

...dave

 

[Pariah]

Fisher is an interesting choice to me because he's the anti-Green. He's defensive-minded, fairly open, and seemingly without ego.

 

[Rivercard]

I gotta tell ya. In all honesty If I could pick a coach other then Herm Edwards to coach the Chiefs right now. Dennis Green would be one of my top 4 picks.

Wow, must of us here would gladly let you have him right now. What do you see in Green?

 

[hailgunther]

Wow, must of us here would gladly let you have him right now. What do you see in Green?

Well Here in KC we are so close to Minnesota. Before the Rams showed up the Vikes were the closest NFC team. SO we would get alot of the news feeds, press conferences and games. He was on our sports radio all the time. He handled himself well and was just well thought of. Plus the Vikes were not to bad when he coached them. Even today we still get the occassional phone interview from him. He always treated KC with respect and you could ask him anything and at that time you would get a straight answer. I think if your line was playing the way its paid to play we wouldnt even be having this conversation. The coach can only do so much. THey cant make the plays on the field.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Honestly, I'd rather look for a different offensive coordinator.

Denny Green is not the one calling the plays.

 

[Rivercard]

The coach can only do so much. THey cant make the plays on the field.

Can't speak for what happened in Minny, but the man makes some of the most bizarre game management decisions I've ever seen. He definitely has effected the outcome of some games here in Az.

 

[Card Trader]

Yeah, I want Jeff Fisher....a guy who has lost control of his team and has actually made them worse than us!

 

[Pariah]

Yeah, I want Jeff Fisher....a guy who has lost control of his team and has actually made them worse than us!

The titans demise has little to do with Fisher, IMO. You don't hear about it because Fisher steps up to the plate and doesn't point fingers, but he's at odds with ownership and they've left the cupboard somewhat bare in that lockerroom.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I gotta tell ya. In all honesty If I could pick a coach other then Herm Edwards to coach the Chiefs right now. Dennis Green would be one of my top 4 picks.

The next thing you'll be saying is that you'd take Leonard Davis as your starting LT. Those are 2 things that aren't allowed to be said here . You're going to get about 20 responses of how terrible each guy is.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah, I want Jeff Fisher....a guy who has lost control of his team and has actually made them worse than us!

HArd to blame him for that. Much like SF, the Titans made a fundamental decision a few years ago to gut the roster because of the cap. They'd been extending contracts to keep players and the finally decided to just bite the bullet. So they gutted the franchise.

That put Fisher in a position where he had to take some risks in the draft because he had lost so much talent. That's why maybe you take a Pacman over Rolle, Rolle was the safer choice everyone knew Pacman was immature. But he's also a much better athlete than Rolle and they gambled he'd grow up.

The Haynesworth thing is a black eye for them but I wouldn't say that was on Fisher it's on Haynesworth, he just appears to be much like Pacman a complete idiot.

What I like about Fisher is he's not afraid to hire assistants that have a resume and have aspirations. With Green we aren't sure if his hands are tied by management or if he just likes picking unknown assistants?