A couple of observations re: Matt

[bg7brd]

I don't think Whiz has been inconsistent to his words at this point.

He lauded Matt's offseason, pointed to dysfunction in the "O" writ large, and in announcing that DA would start, said that he was merely flipping the starting order from game 2 to game 3; that the depth chart had not changed - and that the third game was not a dress rehearsal.

Based on play this evening, etc., he's free to make any decision he chooses and remain consistent, to my mind.

It's MY BELIEF until proven wrong, that too many with a bias against Matt, think that it's all over for him, but the crying. And, just maybe, some of those people should pay a bit closer attention to what Whiz says, and a little less to their "gut" which is in perfect digestive harmony with their bias.

Very nicely put.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

I’ve often wondered, over the years, why when Matt is on the sidelines we never see him with a radio listening to the plays being called. Fitz was sticking head in, the other night, trying to hear what was being called.
Aloof comes to mind.

I absolutely noticed it Monday night. Wasn't on the radio, wasn't on the phone, wasn't looking at photos of the plays.

Larry spent the whole game on the sidelines sandwhiched between Whiz and Lott totally involved. I kept wondering where the heck Matt was.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I don't think Whiz has been inconsistent to his words at this point. The guy you've described - says one thing, does another... would be two-faced, to put it charitably.

He lauded Matt's offseason, pointed to dysfunction in the "O" writ large, and in announcing that DA would start, said that he was merely flipping the starting order from game 2 to game 3; that the depth chart had not changed - and that the third game was not a dress rehearsal.

Based on play this evening, etc., he's free to make any decision he chooses and remain consistent, to my mind.

It's MY BELIEF until proven wrong, that too many with a bias against Matt, think that it's all over for him, but the crying. And, just maybe, some of those people should pay a bit closer attention to what Whiz says, and a little less to their "gut" which is in perfect digestive harmony with their bias.

So let me see if I'm following you. You're suggesting that even if Matty had torn it up during camp and the first two games of preseason, that Whiz would've made this move and started DA anyway?? Whoa... ok....

 

[MrYeahBut]

. I made a living playing hockey

I've always thought you were a goon, btw

 

[AzStevenCal]

It's MY BELIEF until proven wrong, that too many with a bias against Matt, think that it's all over for him, but the crying. And, just maybe, some of those people should pay a bit closer attention to what Whiz says, and a little less to their "gut" which is in perfect digestive harmony with their bias.

There's a lot of us that do not have an anti-Matt bias that also think it's over for him. I know I may well be wrong on this issue but from the outside looking in it looks to me like he's on his way out. I just don't see how this could possibly be good for the guy's psyche if it's being done for any other reason than as a prelude to Matt's release (or trade).

Steve

 

[Crazy Canuck]

So let me see if I'm following you. You're suggesting that even if Matty had torn it up during camp and the first two games of preseason, that Whiz would've made this move and started DA anyway?? Whoa... ok....

What I am saying is STAY TUNED.

No final decision has been made, despite this change, and any belief you may have in phantom conversations with player reps.

It ain't over till it's over, and there is nothing in how Whiz has presented this change at the helm that prevents him from starting Matt in game one of the regular season, if he plays well between now and then.

 

[FJM]

Here's how I see it. Matt has 2 years left on his contract. If he has a fair to good year, what to they do, pay him the 14 million that is due him for his last year or redo his contract? Matt at this point says I'll play out my last year and become a free agent because he has no use for Whis. Oh oh, now what, I think we know what Whis would do. Let him go.

Didn't Whis have a lot of issues with Big Ben? Did that have a bearing on him not getting the Stealers job?

In the wings stands Pete Carroll, who loves Matt, and knows how to get the most out of him. Talk about coming back to haunt you.

Who knows what lurks behind those closed doors??????

 

[gusmahler]

Does it make sense to just outright cut Leinart (or Anderson)? Can't they trade him for something, even if it's just a 6th round pick or something, if they really don't want him?

 

[THESMEL]

I want whatever Denny did to help Matt his rookie season. even the Edge 36 carries for 55 yards and 1.5 average helped matt. But Matt and the Cardinals need a balanced gameplan and balanced playcalling to excel. r its the same ole high risk high reward feast or famine.

 

[Buckybird]

There's a lot of us that do not have an anti-Matt bias that also think it's over for him. I know I may well be wrong on this issue but from the outside looking in it looks to me like he's on his way out. I just don't see how this could possibly be good for the guy's psyche if it's being done for any other reason than as a prelude to Matt's release (or trade).

Steve

I'm with ya & there isn't a bigger #7 supporter here. I think Leinart has a toenail still in the door & Wiz doesn't trust Matt & vice versa. If the decision is made to start DA in week 1, I see no purpose in keeping Leinart on the roster. It's just like cheating in a marriage, eventually all trust & belief in one another is all but gone.

 

[82CardsGrad]

What I am saying is STAY TUNED.

No final decision has been made, despite this change, and any belief you may have in phantom conversations with player reps.

It ain't over till it's over, and there is nothing in how Whiz has presented this change at the helm that prevents him from starting Matt in game one of the regular season, if he plays well between now and then.

Of course Matt still can be the starter come opening day. However, if you don't believe that benching Matty in game 3 of the preseason isn't a major statement, you're sadly mistaken. Here's the deal: Should DA go out and play well tonight, he will be the starter in Game 1 against the Rams. It's that simply and clear now...

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Of course Matt still can be the starter come opening day. However, if you don't believe that benching Matty in game 3 of the preseason isn't a major statement, you're sadly mistaken. Here's the deal: Should DA go out and play well tonight, he will be the starter in Game 1 against the Rams. It's that simply and clear now...

Clear to you. But, not being clairvoyant, I'll await the actual call.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I think some of this talk about Matt being weak armed/not throwing deep, etc is in part due to the fact we haven't seem him roll out at all this preseason. IIRC he has thrown some nice deep balls from that play

 

[freebyrd]

wow maybe just maybe

do you think that whiz is going to make his game plan again where matt ran the regular offense and kurt ran the two minute drill this time with DA running the two minute offense?

disaster looms

 

[Crazy Canuck]

do you think that whiz is going to make his game plan again where matt ran the regular offense and kurt ran the two minute drill this time with DA running the two minute offense?

disaster looms

Matt between the 20 and midfield because turnovers in your own end are killers. DA between midfield and the 20, and then back to Matt in the redzone as accuracy does matter. Perfect symmetry, don't you think? (lol)

 

[Kabin]

Matt does well with with the short stuff. Otherwise seems to struggle. He has a knack for wringing out receivers. He's destined for a bench role.

 

[nashman]

Accuracy his king! Which is why Matts YPA is higher than the supposed gunslinger who's incompletions will stop the chains and create turnoevers. I am just really questioning what the hell Whiz is thinking looking at this QB situation. Seriously did Matt do his wife or something because this seems so personal its not even funny. Screw you Whiz if you start DA over Leinart you are PISSING on this teams fans by not giving our possible QBOF a real shot all while wanting to go with a PROVEN LOSER!

 

[Cardiac]

Accuracy his king! Which is why Matts YPA is higher than the supposed gunslinger who's incompletions will stop the chains and create turnoevers. I am just really questioning what the hell Whiz is thinking looking at this QB situation. Seriously did Matt do his wife or something because this seems so personal its not even funny. Screw you Whiz if you start DA over Leinart you are PISSING on this teams fans by not giving our possible QBOF a real shot all while wanting to go with a PROVEN LOSER!

Just like CKW hated Edge.

If anyone is taking this personal it's you. Read what you wrote, take a breath and then consider it's not personal but a business decision.

 

[nashman]

KW did not like Edge and proved as such by benching him and killing the offense for what seemed like half the season. Until he had no choice to bring him back which then propelled our team to a SB run which EDGE was a HUGE part of first of all! Second if its a business decision to play the QB who has totally underwhelmed and been outplayed....well then he is a terrible business man!

 

[Rats]

Matt has earned the right to lead this team. He is the best Qb on our roster and has more time in this offense. If Whis makes this a "business decision" then it is a poor one. Just because DA can throw a deep ball that is no reason to play ping pong with these two Qb. He is simply nothing more than a journyman backup Qb. Matt has shown he can throw the ball and is simply the better Qb for this team.

 

[Cardiac]

KW did not like Edge and proved as such by benching him and killing the offense for what seemed like half the season. Until he had no choice to bring him back which then propelled our team to a SB run which EDGE was a HUGE part of first of all! Second if its a business decision to play the QB who has totally underwhelmed and been outplayed....well then he is a terrible business man!

Yep CKW obviously sucks.

Edge played for who the next year?

During the SB Edge's HUGE contribution was catching swing passes out of the backfield and then running at a snails pace to pick up some extra yards. This play was wide open because of the D scheme the steelers were using. The swing pass was like a jab punch instead of the round house it could have been if Edge wasn't sooooo slow.

When was the last time you sat in on a tape session reviewing the game? Do you know what plays are called and what reads the QB should make?

It appears to most fans (inclduing myself) the ML has played fairly well this preseason and has outplayed DA. Thing is I realize the CKW knows a lot more about the game and his team then I do. That's why I don't get all worked up when I don't agree or understand a decision he makes.

This is your MO, you have a man crush (1st time I've used that phrase) for certain players and if CKW doesn't treat them like royalty you get enraged.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Yep CKW obviously sucks.

Edge played for who the next year?

During the SB Edge's HUGE contribution was catching swing passes out of the backfield and then running at a snails pace to pick up some extra yards. This play was wide open because of the D scheme the steelers were using. The swing pass was like a jab punch instead of the round house it could have been if Edge wasn't sooooo slow.

When was the last time you sat in on a tape session reviewing the game? Do you know what plays are called and what reads the QB should make?

It appears to most fans (inclduing myself) the ML has played fairly well this preseason and has outplayed DA. Thing is I realize the CKW knows a lot more about the game and his team then I do. That's why I don't get all worked up when I don't agree or understand a decision he makes.

This is your MO, you have a man crush (1st time I've used that phrase) for certain players and if CKW doesn't treat them like royalty you get enraged.

 

[Shane]

This is your MO, you have a man crush (1st time I've used that phrase) for certain players and if CKW doesn't treat them like royalty you get enraged.

Boy is that spot on!

 

[Sandan]

All I know is I saw to QBs that looked good last night.

Whichever Wiz chooses is fine by me

 

[Rats]

Matt does well with with the short stuff. Otherwise seems to struggle. He has a knack for wringing out receivers. He's destined for a bench role.

Go to the main site and watch the film clip on Matt throwing to Fitz against NE in 2008. I do not think anyone who sees it will be saying he can't throw the long ball or can only throw the short stuff or has a weak arm. The clip was to big or I would have posted it here. Matt has shown plenty enought to lead this team.