A game of emotion:

[Catfish]

They say that football is a game of emotion. Players not only have to gear up by preparing their bodies to make, (and take), the big hits, but they also must mentally psyche themselves up to play at this level.

It is also said that teams take on the personality of its coaches. That might be true in coach Ken Whizenhunt's case. He seldom shows emotion, (always seeming to be engulfed in calculating a remedy with his engineering experience), that is devoid of emotion. Is it any wonder then, why this team seems to come out so flat so often?

Yesterday, at the post game presser, he did begin angrily, but even that soon changed as quickly as it came. It was refreshing to see that he actually did react with some emotion to what had just occurred. It would be nice to see that on the sideline from time to time with him. I would think that it would be beneficial for the players to see that their coach had as much invested emotionally as they do. Failing that, over time, I don't see how the result can be much different than what we have seen from a Whizenhunt coached team.

It must be frustrating for players to play game after game, trying to bring enough emotion to swing momentum to their side, (all the while their head coach is on the sideline, seemingly un-attatched to the ebb and flow of the game). Every time the camera focuses on him, he is stoic and unemotionally engrossed in finding the next scripted play from his play card. He seems not to be connected emotionally to what is occurring on the field, or emotionally invested into what is happening with his players.

As for the angry moment during the presser, his only hint that things might change were when he stated that he might change WHO he was trusting on the field to get the job done. Once again, the apparent failure, (at least in his mind), lies with the players, and not with the preparation and scheme. This is getting to be a lame and old theme, that has worn thin with time. This team is sorely in need of change, and right now I would settle for an emotional one, just to see if there is really any life left in it.

 

[Chopper0080]

They say that football is a game of emotion. Players not only have to gear up by preparing their bodies to make, (and take), the big hits, but they also must mentally psyche themselves up to play at this level.

It is also said that teams take on the personality of its coaches. That might be true in coach Ken Whizenhunt's case. He seldom shows emotion, (always seeming to be engulfed in calculating a remedy with his engineering experience), that is devoid of emotion. Is it any wonder then, why this team seems to come out so flat so often?

Yesterday, at the post game presser, he did begin angrily, but even that soon changed as quickly as it came. It was refreshing to see that he actually did react with some emotion to what had just occurred. It would be nice to see that on the sideline from time to time with him. I would think that it would be beneficial for the players to see that their coach had as much invested emotionally as they do. Failing that, over time, I don't see how the result can be much different than what we have seen from a Whizenhunt coached team.

It must be frustrating for players to play game after game, trying to bring enough emotion to swing momentum to their side, (all the while their head coach is on the sideline, seemingly un-attatched to the ebb and flow of the game). Every time the camera focuses on him, he is stoic and unemotionally engrossed in finding the next scripted play from his play card. He seems not to be connected emotionally to what is occurring on the field, or emotionally invested into what is happening with his players.

As for the angry moment during the presser, his only hint that things might change were when he stated that he might change WHO he was trusting on the field to get the job done. Once again, the apparent failure, (at least in his mind), lies with the players, and not with the preparation and scheme. This is getting to be a lame and old theme, that has worn thin with time. This team is sorely in need of change, and right now I would settle for an emotional one, just to see if there is really any life left in it.

Lets keep one thing in mind and that is players play the game, not coaches. Lets get one thing straight, our coaching staff and front office put us in this position, but they didn't miss Housler down the middle of the field. They didn't get called for holding to bring back a touchdown. They didn't get out of position on the McNabb touchdown run. Those are player mistakes, and they are what is killing this team. Now, if the players don't listen to the head coaches or are doing there own thing that is a coaching problem and it needs to be addressed by the coaches. As far as the in game product, the blame does lie on the players.

 

[conraddobler]

Emotion I think is the wrong word.

Attitude is what you're looking for and the attitude of this team and coaching and ownership all sucks.

I get mostly eh, that should be enough or that's good enough as an attitude out of a lot of players on this team and there is a general lack of a real quest for domination or excellence, there is a quest for adequate or good enough from a lot of players.

That filters down throughout the entire organization and it's not just about money it's about tolerating medicority and lack of effort.

The players don't buy into the schemes either, a new coach gets a honeymoon where players try to fit into a new system and are on their best behavior and give their best effort, after that they should start sorting themselves out and a coach begins molding a team in their own image.

Those games where we quit during our SB run?

Well that's what quitters do, that's what players who think, eh that's good enough will give you.

Should of taken the opportunity to systematically cut every last one of the losers who didn't show up to play in those games, JMO.

They do you a favor when they play like that, they show themselves, it's up to you to spot it then it's up to you to systematically, not recklessly, not just on a whim but strategically get them all replaced as a priority of the entire organization.

This team just looks at them and wrings their hands and thinks they can at some later date with some magic get the motivated effort from them they need, but this never happens and they always will let you down.

It's all of it, ownership, the players, the coaching, all of it.

If everyone had Larry's or Boldin's attitude then we wouldn't be where we are right now, heart of a champion, when you see it, hire it, when it's lacking, fire them.

 

[Catfish]

Emotion I think is the wrong word.

Attitude is what you're looking for and the attitude of this team and coaching and ownership all sucks.

I get mostly eh, that should be enough or that's good enough as an attitude out of a lot of players on this team and there is a general lack of a real quest for domination or excellence, there is a quest for adequate or good enough from a lot of players.

That filters down throughout the entire organization and it's not just about money it's about tolerating medicority and lack of effort.

The players don't buy into the schemes either, a new coach gets a honeymoon where players try to fit into a new system and are on their best behavior and give their best effort, after that they should start sorting themselves out and a coach begins molding a team in their own image.

Those games where we quit during our SB run?

Well that's what quitters do, that's what players who think, eh that's good enough will give you.

Should of taken the opportunity to systematically cut every last one of the losers who didn't show up to play in those games, JMO.

They do you a favor when they play like that, they show themselves, it's up to you to spot it then it's up to you to systematically, not recklessly, not just on a whim but strategically get them all replaced as a priority of the entire organization.

This team just looks at them and wrings their hands and thinks they can at some later date with some magic get the motivated effort from them they need, but this never happens and they always will let you down.

It's all of it, ownership, the players, the coaching, all of it.

If everyone had Larry's or Boldin's attitude then we wouldn't be where we are right now, heart of a champion, when you see it, hire it, when it's lacking, fire them.

If what you say is correct, (and I believe it is), then the head coach should be the first one to go. He has failed to make any corrective action on this matter from day one, and the same players make the same mistakes over and over. Failure to correct that after six years of saying he would, (without success), should be reason enough for his removal. It is precisely that failure to make those corrections that has allowed the mediocrity to creep in, spreading from one player to another until it has become epidemic on this team. The failure still lies with the head coach. If a head coach cannot find a cure for a continuous problem, then he becomes the REASON that the problem continues to exist. It is HIS team, and it is up to HIM to fix it.

 

[splitsecond]

I don't think you want emotional. Emotional is Mike Stoops. And we see how well that translates on the field.

 

[Catfish]

I don't think you want emotional. Emotional is Mike Stoops. And we see how well that translates on the field.

Not necessarily like Stoops. You have to have some emotion though, or else you play flat. It would be nice to see the coach get mad on the sideline, (at least occasionally). That way his players would at least know that he cares enough to invest some of himself in the effort.

 

[1DS]

They say that football is a game of emotion. Players not only have to gear up by preparing their bodies to make, (and take), the big hits, but they also must mentally psyche themselves up to play at this level.

It is also said that teams take on the personality of its coaches. That might be true in coach Ken Whizenhunt's case. He seldom shows emotion, (always seeming to be engulfed in calculating a remedy with his engineering experience), that is devoid of emotion. Is it any wonder then, why this team seems to come out so flat so often?

Yesterday, at the post game presser, he did begin angrily, but even that soon changed as quickly as it came. It was refreshing to see that he actually did react with some emotion to what had just occurred. It would be nice to see that on the sideline from time to time with him. I would think that it would be beneficial for the players to see that their coach had as much invested emotionally as they do. Failing that, over time, I don't see how the result can be much different than what we have seen from a Whizenhunt coached team.

It must be frustrating for players to play game after game, trying to bring enough emotion to swing momentum to their side, (all the while their head coach is on the sideline, seemingly un-attatched to the ebb and flow of the game). Every time the camera focuses on him, he is stoic and unemotionally engrossed in finding the next scripted play from his play card. He seems not to be connected emotionally to what is occurring on the field, or emotionally invested into what is happening with his players.

As for the angry moment during the presser, his only hint that things might change were when he stated that he might change WHO he was trusting on the field to get the job done. Once again, the apparent failure, (at least in his mind), lies with the players, and not with the preparation and scheme. This is getting to be a lame and old theme, that has worn thin with time. This team is sorely in need of change, and right now I would settle for an emotional one, just to see if there is really any life left in it.

You know who else is devoid of emotion as a coach? Take a guess. Here is a hint: he's the top coach in the NFL right now. His QB's name rhymes with Bom Trady. There was a 2 day special about him on NFLN 2 weeks ago.

Sheesh. People will use ANYTHING to make a point. Even if it's nonsense.

 

[1DS]

And how well did coach Mac's attitude and emotion work? He threw trash cans, he had so much emotion. Best coach ever.

 

[Duckjake]

And how well did coach Mac's attitude and emotion work? He threw trash cans, he had so much emotion. Best coach ever.

And how well did Tobin's lack of emotion work? How about Buddy's tirades? Bugel and Stalling's good ol' boy demeanor? Hard to use any former Cardinal coach as an example when every one of them has failed.

BTW: CKW has now joined the long list of Cardinal HC's with a losing record for his Cardinal career. 37-38

 

[1DS]

And how well did Tobin's lack of emotion work? How about Buddy's tirades? Bugel and Stalling's good ol' boy demeanor? Hard to use any former Cardinal coach as an example when every one of them has failed.

BTW: CKW has now joined the long list of Cardinal HC's with a losing record for his Cardinal career. 37-38

Great point. I think I follow. Don't hire a HC. got ya.

 

[Duckjake]

Great point. I think I follow. Don't hire a HC. got ya.

No you don't follow. Let me write it again. Hard to use any former Cardinal coach as an example when every one of them has failed.