A Hardcore Cardinals fan

[justAndy]

My friend Sludgegutt derided me for leaving a couple games early last year.
He says: "I don't CARE if they're getting blown out 38-0 in the 4th - the least I can do is sit there in the sun and get burned. I don't even go to the can except for 1/2 time. At the very end, I yell encouragement to the players. That's what a REAL fan does."

 

[kerouac9]

Fans that leave games early are bad fans. Sorry. I boo 'em.

I sat through to the bitter end of the Buffalo loss three years ago. It doesn't get much worse than that. Sit the extra 15 minutes. It's not like traffic is going to be a problem. There are only 15,000 people at the game.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

Fans that leave games early are bad fans. Sorry. I boo 'em.

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I agree, but for out-of-towners it's hard to sit through a beating when you know you could already be on the road and listen to the rest of the whooping on the radio.

Hopefully this won't be an option this season.

 

[kerouac9]

I agree, but for out-of-towners it's hard to sit through a beating when you know you could already be on the road and listen to the rest of the whooping on the radio.

Hopefully this won't be an option this season.

If you're looking at a 2-hour drive anyway, what's the big deal? I can see what you're saying, but if you're only going to be there for two games a year, you should just sit back and enjoy the extra half-hour of masochistic soul-crushing defeatism.

And, since the game's at home, it's possible that you'll witness a comeback.

 

[arthurracoon]

Fans that leave games early are bad fans. Sorry. I boo 'em.

I sat through to the bitter end of the Buffalo loss three years ago. It doesn't get much worse than that. Sit the extra 15 minutes. It's not like traffic is going to be a problem. There are only 15,000 people at the game.

I went to that game...but at that time I was still a Bills fan. It was only the next year that I truly became a diehard Cards fan.

 

[Shane]

Once again I agree with Kerouac

I am from out of town and usually drive home right after sunday games when I come down.

I need evry minute of Cards football even if it is bad football!

 

[MadCardDisease]

I'll admit that I left a couple of the blow outs early last year.

It's hard to convince the wife to stay when it's hot and the Cards didn't even show up.

 

[azdad1978]

Me and the fiance never leaves even though its a blowout. We both agreed we payed this amount of money and its such a waste anyway since you have all the legroom you can have.

 

[Cardinal Bob]

Fans that leave games early are bad fans. Sorry. I boo 'em.

Since I'm only at road games, I live by the rule that I will never leave early regardless of the score, because I won't give the home fans the satisfaction of seeing the lone Cardinal fan leaving early during a blowout.

But I did leave last season's debacle in Cleveland early...the first time in my life I've done so. The reason I did was because I was by myself and had a 12 hour drive back home to NJ, and leaving at the beginning of the 4th qtr. was the difference between getting home around 2 am instead of 4 or 5 am.

Chastize me if you wish.

 

[kerouac9]

Since I'm only at road games, I live by the rule that I will never leave early regardless of the score, because I won't give the home fans the satisfaction of seeing the lone Cardinal fan leaving early during a blowout.

But I did leave last season's debacle in Cleveland early...the first time in my life I've done so. The reason I did was because I was by myself and had a 12 hour drive back home to NJ, and leaving at the beginning of the 4th qtr. was the difference between getting home around 2 am instead of 4 or 5 am.

Chastize me if you wish.

Really? Last I checked, it didn't take 2 or 3 hours to play a quarter of football. When you're looking at a 12-hour drive, what's another hour's (at most) wait?

If anything, having driven a long distance is the least effective excuse for leaving early.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Really? Last I checked, it didn't take 2 or 3 hours to play a quarter of football. When you're looking at a 12-hour drive, what's another hour's (at most) wait?

If anything, having driven a long distance is the least effective excuse for leaving early.

Its called beating the rush. Youg uys in AZ have no idea about that. I never left early but if I drove 12 hours to philly. The difference between leaving at the end of mid way through the 4th quarter is about 3 hours difference. Maybe as long as 5 depending on construction.

 

[kerouac9]

Its called beating the rush. Youg uys in AZ have no idea about that. I never left early but if I drove 12 hours to philly. The difference between leaving at the end of mid way through the 4th quarter is about 3 hours difference. Maybe as long as 5 depending on construction.

On Sunday? Getting out of sold-out BOB in downtown Phoenix didn't take three hours. Seriously, if you're looking at a 12-hour drive, it's going to take 1/4 of that time (or more) to get out of the parking lot/city? Seriously?

 

[CaptTurbo]

On Sunday? Getting out of sold-out BOB in downtown Phoenix didn't take three hours. Seriously, if you're looking at a 12-hour drive, it's going to take 1/4 of that time (or more) to get out of the parking lot/city? Seriously?

Whats on Sunday mean? Yes in PA we do construction on nights and weekends. DO you ever get tired of pretending you know everything.

And yes getting to a philly game from harrisburg if you dont leave early either way takes about 6 hours. Oppose to the 2 it takes on normal days. We have 4 stadiums right next to each other and they are usually all full on sundays for different events.

 

[kerouac9]

Whats on Sunday mean? Yes in PA we do construction on nights and weekends. DO you ever get tired of pretending you know everything.

And yes getting to a philly game from harrisburg if you dont leave early either way takes about 6 hours. Oppose to the 2 it takes on normal days. We have 4 stadiums right next to each other and they are usually all full on sundays for different events.

"On Sunday" means that there's not like normal weekday business or Friday/Saturday night social traffic on the roads. I'm sure that 1:00 a.m. on a Sunday the freeways of our great nation are generally less busy than at 11:00 p.m. on a Friday or 5:45 p.m. on a Thursday.

Hey, I was just wondering. I have friends that live in Essington. When I was there, we drove by the Linc like three times a day.

Man, leave early. I can't prevent you from being a bad fan.

 

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Man, leave early. I can't prevent you from being a bad fan.

Out of bounds. It was sort of interesting, sort of, up until that.

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[justAndy]

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I'll still do what I want, when I want - even if it means getting the stink eye from Sludge the next time i see him.
I wish he would get on this board - he's funny as hell, and a super die hard optimistic-to-ridiculous-extent-fan.
He's not hooked to the net...

 

[kerouac9]

Out of bounds. It was sort of interesting, sort of, up until that.

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I take it back. I'm sorry, swd. I guess, for me, if I'm going to drop $50 a ticket or whatever for a game, especially in hostile territory, I'm not going to leave early. That's just me.

 

[CaptTurbo]

"On Sunday" means that there's not like normal weekday business or Friday/Saturday night social traffic on the roads. I'm sure that 1:00 a.m. on a Sunday the freeways of our great nation are generally less busy than at 11:00 p.m. on a Friday or 5:45 p.m. on a Thursday.

Hey, I was just wondering. I have friends that live in Essington. When I was there, we drove by the Linc like three times a day.

Man, leave early. I can't prevent you from being a bad fan.

As I said I never left early but Im curious as to when the eagles have a game that ends at 1 am? Games here are generally over at 4-430 and yes its heavy. And on top of that add all the other stadiums and event and constructions its a mess that is never seen in AZ.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I'll admit that I left a couple of the blow outs early last year.

Which "blow outs" ??

Plural?

I can only think of one.

Seattle 38-0.

Otherwise refresh my memory: Didn't the Cards win both preseason games, 4 regular season games, lose the above 38-0 game...lose a game they should have won (Baltimore) which was much closer than the final score indicated...and lose two very close games - one in the 4th qtr and one in OT.

 

[jerryp]

Cities out west tend to have a better transit system for moving mass amounts of cars around since they tend to be newer than cities back east. Here in Buffalo, effecient traffic flow takes a back seat to historical preservation. So we have traffic cirlces all over the place. Great in horse and buggy times, a nightmare with cars everywhere.

When I went to Toronto to see the Dbacks play the Jays, after leaving the game, that had only like a 23,000 attendance, my friend and I spent a couple hours on the Gardiner Expressway. We only had to go about 7-8 miles to get out of the main part of the city and the traffic, but those 8 miles took hours to traverse because traffic was at a crawl. Move 12 feet, stop, repeat. This was, ironically enough, a Sunday afternoon game. I can only imagine how bad a Friday/Saturday game with a full crowd would be like.

So I can believe that leaving before the crowd would save that much time on the trip.

 

[Cardinal Bob]

Really? Last I checked, it didn't take 2 or 3 hours to play a quarter of football. When you're looking at a 12-hour drive, what's another hour's (at most) wait?

If anything, having driven a long distance is the least effective excuse for leaving early.

I walked out of the stadium around 3:00pm. The game ended around 4:00-4:15pm. I breezed out of the parking lot, onto the highway, and out of downtown Cleveland in about 10 minutes (and I was tired, buzzed, and hopeful that I could even follow the signs correctly in getting to where I needed to be in an unfamiliar city, so to be able to do it without having to deal with end-of-game traffic was a BIG plus). Had I stayed, that might've taken anywhere from an hour to two hours...and based on where I was parked in the lot, and that lot's relation to the stadium and highway, I was guessing it was going to be a clusterf*ck trying to get out.

I listened to the end of the game on the radio, and was within a half hour of the Ohio-PA border when it ended. So I'm guessing, based on how long it took me to get to Cleveland the day before, that I saved at least 2-3 hours by leaving early.

As it was, I got home around 2:15-2:30am, having been awake since 6:30am, and tailgating at the stadium since 8:45am. Kind of a long day. I hated to leave early, but with score completely out of hand as it was, and the Cardinals showing no signs of doing anything worthy of cheering for, I decided it was the right thing for me to do.

I hope I never have to contemplate ever doing that again.

 

[kerouac9]

As I said I never left early but Im curious as to when the eagles have a game that ends at 1 am? Games here are generally over at 4-430 and yes its heavy. And on top of that add all the other stadiums and event and constructions its a mess that is never seen in AZ.

The Eagles host a Monday night game that kicks off at 9:00 p.m. on September 20. It wouldnt' be beyond the bounds of reason to have that game go to 1:00 EST (or EDT or whatever Druid clock y'all be on).

Even then, Bob was talking about a 12-hour drive. My question remains: what's 45 minutes' difference in a 12-hour drive? Adding 2 hours to a 6 hour drive is significant. Adding 45 minutes to a 12-hour drive is not so much. It's like debating whether or not to stop at Denny's while driving from Phoenix to Dallas.

lose a game they should have won (Baltimore) which was much closer than the final score indicated...

Poppycock. The Cards were dominated in that game. If anything, the score didn't express enough the extent of the dismantling that the Ravens laid on this team. The Ravens aren't a team that rolls over you offensively, but spinning that game into a close loss is pretty silly.

 

[Cardinal Bob]

Do I get any points for having stayed until the bitter end in Kansas City in DEc. 2002, even though we were down 44-0?

The Chiefs fans who heckled me in the lot and on the way in that day, said they couldn't even give me grief after the game 'cuz they felt bad! LOL!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Poppycock. The Cards were dominated in that game. If anything, the score didn't express enough the extent of the dismantling that the Ravens laid on this team. The Ravens aren't a team that rolls over you offensively, but spinning that game into a close loss is pretty silly.

I'd have to look it up, but I thought it was a close halftime game (like 3 points) which turned into a 17 point loss in the second half. I never said it was a close loss. Besides, my main point was to show that there were no other early season blow out games last year except the Seattle fiasco.

 

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Do I get any points for having stayed until the bitter end in Kansas City in DEc. 2002, even though we were down 44-0?

Yes. Yes you do. 15 points, to be exact.