A tactless move by the Chargers

[Chainthroer]

I cannot understand why Manning would want to change San Diego for New York. Playing in good weather, idea place to work out and get in shape, easier to drive around, nicer beaches.
If he's all that good, he'd get the national exposure via the press.
I can only conclude it's got to be for the money. More and bigger indorsements in New York.
Trading quality of life for money - doesn't sound too swift.

 

[Chopper0080]

redstorm, my point is why draft Manning then trade when they could have made the trade, gotten the picks and gotten their guy.

The Chargers are now one of my most despised teams though I do like Tomlinson. They have no clue on what they want to do,and I believe that Rivers will be a bust for them because of this. A new scheme and new coach in 2006 is not the easiest thing for a QB in his secodn year. Couple this with no wide receivers and no o-line and I can't see how Rivers wil succeed. I just hope this franchise continues it's ineptitude, though I will feel bad for the players that go there and are there.

 

[jmt]

Screw eli - I hope he is a bust.

 

[Savage58]

I cannot understand why Manning would want to change San Diego for New York. Playing in good weather, idea place to work out and get in shape, easier to drive around, nicer beaches.
If he's all that good, he'd get the national exposure via the press.
I can only conclude it's got to be for the money. More and bigger indorsements in New York.
Trading quality of life for money - doesn't sound too swift.

I agree with all that said. I also believe that Shockey, Toomer, Hilliard and Barber are there, and are veterans. Where SD has LT, and Gates(still maturing), and a whole lot of nothing else. That's about the only thing I can see that swayed Eli to want the NYG, outside of not liking the way the Spanos family did business.

 

[Jersey Girl]

I agree with all of you on Eli, and I hope he has a rough time, but as a father, I feel for Archie. Most of us will do whatever we think is right for our kid, even if we would not have done it ourselves. He was a nervous wreck yesterday, and I think it showed his lack of comfort with the situation.

Okay, I can understand that point, but Eli is an adult, isn't he? Stand up, dude. I know it isn't easy, especially if your dad is Archie Manning, but it's ELI's life. Cut the cord already, or at least give it a little slack.

BTW, I don't believe the GM/EVP for the Chargers for one second when he said there was no deal in place with the Giants. Not for one second.

 

[vikesfan]

When I was watching mEli on tv yesterday he looked like a hapless kid and the way they kept repeating "it was his decision" over and over. I think his dad decided this.

If mELI becomes a pro-bowler and Rivers a washout what a terrible thing. This defeats the purpose of the draft. Bad teams will never get a chance. It is pure BS. And it has to stop now.

 

[RedStorm]

redstorm, my point is why draft Manning then trade when they could have made the trade, gotten the picks and gotten their guy.

The Chargers are now one of my most despised teams though I do like Tomlinson. They have no clue on what they want to do,and I believe that Rivers will be a bust for them because of this. A new scheme and new coach in 2006 is not the easiest thing for a QB in his secodn year. Couple this with no wide receivers and no o-line and I can't see how Rivers wil succeed. I just hope this franchise continues it's ineptitude, though I will feel bad for the players that go there and are there.

Because the Giants were probably telling SD to take a hike. Maybe they were talking with Oakland. Everyone knew that Fitz was our pick. Oakland, maybe takes a QB but not likely. The Giants were playing hard ball and Manning was in the Giants corner. SD had to take Manning and force the Giants to deal with them. IMO

 

[BuckeyeCardinal]

When I was watching mEli on tv yesterday he looked like a hapless kid and the way they kept repeating "it was his decision" over and over. I think his dad decided this.

If mELI becomes a pro-bowler and Rivers a washout what a terrible thing. This defeats the purpose of the draft. Bad teams will never get a chance. It is pure BS. And it has to stop now.

"I think his dad decided this."

I think mom did it.

 

[spanky1]

Not to be as dramatic as skkorp...........but Eli Manning will be a BUST

 

[Yuma]

On San Diego radio, Ted Leightner explained that SD was in a rock and a hard place if they DIDN'T report the Mannings saying Eli didn't want to play there. They tried to get NY to ante up a decent return. When NY didn't, SD felt it would be better to keep Eli. Suddenly the Mannings get involved. The way Leightner explained it, is now if SD suddenly picks someone other than Eli, who they have reported to their fans they are taking, then the fans wonder what the heck is up. Also if rumors come out that Archie said he didn't want SD to pick his son before SD says anything, well SD is in a bad place again. He is saying the organization almost had to report Archie's statement to them. This isn't my theory, it's SD radio.

You want to hear a conspiracy theory:

Fact: Tom Condon represents Eli Manning, Marty Schottenheimer, and the NY Giants coach (I forgot his name), as well as Drew Brees and Ladanian Thomlinson. He was also the go between with the Mannings and the Chargers!

I won't go into all the permutations, especially when you have LT supporting Brees as the SD QB, but it is mind boggling!

 

[Redsz]

Chopper,

Obviously most of you forget that it was the Mannings who went and talked to the Chargers, and afetr that talk asked them PRIVATELY if they would trade the pick to the Giants so Eli could play there.

And why should the Chargers have to accomodate to what the Mannings want?

As many people have pointed out. The purpose of the draft is to not only introduce new talent into the NFL. But to help the weaker teams by giving them the chance to draft the best talent coming out of college football.

Players should not be able to dictate where they want to play. Even if they make these requests in private or public. It defeats the entire purpose of the draft.

If I was apart of the Chargers, I sure as hell wouldn't bend over backwards to the wishes of a player that basically said "your not a good enough team for me to play for".

Now in this situation, keeps this in mind.
1-The Chargers had been trying to deal the pick for the past 2 months.
2-Even when considering staying and picking at 1, the Chargers never commited to one player.
3-Marty will be fired by the end of next year because of a lack of immediate help. So the QB in San Diego will have to learn 2 offenses in 2 years.

This is a moot point because we don't know what the Chargers situation was and we may never find out.

Now we get to the classless organization. What does the San Diego Chargers do instead of making the deal without leaking the info. The Chargers tell the press about the situation so that if they screw up the first round, they are not held accountable. They get justification from the media for not drafting or keeping Eli Manning.

There where already rumors about Eli not wanting to play for the Chargers. The Chargers never said the rumor was true. However, Eli's agent and the Manning family validated this rumor.

On draft day, instead of making the trade at the 1 spot. They draft Manning allow him to go on stage and be booed, as well as creating uncertainty for Rivers who gets picked by the Giants and then is traded.

Actually, this was a very smart move... Bussiness wise. By drafting Manning they knew they had the Giants by the balls and where calling Mannings bluff of sitting out the 2004 season.

NY gave up ALOT to get Manning. The Chargers got some great picks and the player they wanted all along.

How was this not smart?

And in the process, showed Eli that no player is above the draft or the NFL. No player that hasn't played a single down in the NFL should be able to dictate anything.

 

[TRW]

How many of you Eli haters are John Elway lovers? He did what amounted to the same thing to the Colts and ended up in the Hall of Fame.

If Eli turns out half as good as Elway in a dozen years or so hardly anyone will even remember this.

The Chargers are a losing organization rivaling even the Cardinals in their ineptitude since the Spanos clan bought them. They released their statement to cover their rears to accomplish exactly what they did. They are as classless as they are clueless.

I lived in San Diego in the Coryell years and was a Chargers fan before the Cards moved to Phoenix (where I had returned many years before they got here). It is sad how bad that franchise (the Chargers) has become.

 

[Southpaw]

I loved the way San Diego handled it and I honestly feel The Bolts got the better end of it, until they drafted a kicker in the 3rd round. This may be the ultimate case of a player thinking he is better than the system since Elway.

 

[maddogkf]

Screw Eli Manning. I'm ticked that Champ Bailet is gone from the NFC East. I would've loved to see him become a thorn in Eli's side, like how he was with Jake.

I thought SD was right in the decision they made. THere is no guarantee that Rivers would've been there if they traded with NYG.

I hope NYG go 3-13 & SD gets the #1 pick in the draft next year too.

I hope Rivers outshines Eli in his career.

Eli is a spoiled little punk.

 

[john h]

Screw Eli Manning. I'm ticked that Champ Bailet is gone from the NFC East. I would've loved to see him become a thorn in Eli's side, like how he was with Jake.

I thought SD was right in the decision they made. THere is no guarantee that Rivers would've been there if they traded with NYG.

I hope NYG go 3-13 & SD gets the #1 pick in the draft next year too.

I hope Rivers outshines Eli in his career.

Eli is a spoiled little punk.

I blame this more on his father than Eli. Wathing him I was supprised at how young he acted. He seems like an intelligent young man being led by an over protective and somewhat oberbearing father. This wil haunt Archie and Eli for some years to come. In the Air Force I always found the best pilots wanted the toughest missions in Vietnam and that was with your life on the line.

 

[SweetD]

A poor little QB was not happy. Manning should be lucky he even gets a chance to be drafted. Since Collins will be gone next year I don't see him playing well at all and if they don't like you in NY your in for a long career.