Aaron Hernandez Kills Himself in Prison

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Honestly, who cares? He was barely in the league. 38 games in 3 seasons. He didn't have a lengthy career with big hits like several of the athletes who were posthumously diagnosed with CTE. Besides, CTE didn't make him a thug and a stone cold murderer.

They are finding CTE in teenagers and college players, that have been playing since childhood, though. So it is relevant.
 

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I think since Hernandez could have hardly been called a football player for a while and never was a Cardinal, can we move this thread to another forum... it's an insult to every young man who might end up playing for the Cardinals in the upcoming draft
 

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WE don't know that. Could hits have damaged part of his brain that in most of us control those urges?

That is the whole point of studying the brains.
Did he have CTE at 17 when he broke the restaurant workers jaw and allegedly took part in a drive by shooting?
 

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Did he have CTE at 17 when he broke the restaurant workers jaw and allegedly took part in a drive by shooting?


Possible If he started playing early. Not making any excuses for him, and don't feel bad for him. But for you and BIM to come off all hard-ass does nothing. If his brain, and others like him can shed some light on brain injuries, and how it affects behavior, then what does it hurt? Doesn't undo any of the hurt he did to people, but maybe the researchers can do something for the future.
 

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Possible If he started playing early. Not making any excuses for him, and don't feel bad for him. But for you and BIM to come off all hard-ass does nothing. If his brain, and others like him can shed some light on brain injuries, and how it affects behavior, then what does it hurt? Doesn't undo any of the hurt he did to people, but maybe the researchers can do something for the future.

This...Hernandez was probably a POS, regardless...however a lot of people have bad urges and tendencies, but they never follow through, or are able to keep them under control, somewhat...It's entirely possible that CTE or other brain injuries contribute to people like this being unable to control those urges and tendencies.

You just never know, until you know.
 

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What is CTE?
Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy(CTE) is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain found in people with a history of repetitive brain trauma, including symptomatic concussions as well as subconcussive hits to the head that do not cause symptoms. CTE has been known to affect boxers since the 1920’s (when it was termed punch drunk syndrome or dementia pugilistica). However, in recent years the disease has been found in other athletes, including football and hockey players, as well as in military veterans. CTE is not limited to professional athletes; it has also been found in athletes who did not play sports after high school or college. The repeated brain trauma triggers progressive degeneration of the brain tissue, including the build-up of an abnormal protein called tau. The brain degeneration is associated with common symptoms of CTE including memory loss, confusion, impaired judgment, impulse control problems, aggression, depression, suicidality, parkinsonism, and eventually progressive dementia. These symptoms often begin years, or even decades after the last brain trauma or end of active athletic involvement.

How do you get CTE? Can I get CTE from one concussion/hit to the head?
We believe CTE is caused by repetitive brain trauma. This trauma includes both concussions that cause symptoms and subconcussive hits to the head that cause no symptoms. At this time the number or type of hits to the head needed to trigger degenerative changes of the brain is unknown. In addition, it is likely that other factors, such as genetics, may play a role in the development of CTE, as not everyone with a history of repeated brain trauma develops this disease. However, these other factors are not yet understood.


http://www.bu.edu/cte/about/frequently-asked-questions/
 

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Possible If he started playing early. Not making any excuses for him, and don't feel bad for him. But for you and BIM to come off all hard-ass does nothing. If his brain, and others like him can shed some light on brain injuries, and how it affects behavior, then what does it hurt? Doesn't undo any of the hurt he did to people, but maybe the researchers can do something for the future.
DB, I respect your opinion but maybe perhaps he was just a POS? It boggles the mind that there is no longer any personal responsibility anymore. Even the murderers are victims now? Susan Smith is excused from strapping her 2 kids to their car seats and watching them scream for her as her car sank into the lake because she was an abuse child. Andrea Yeats is excused for drowning her children in the bath tub one by one because she had post partum depression. Chris Benoit is excused from murdering his wife and son because of the number of concussions he suffered while wrestling. What I want to know is, how come we rarely, if ever, hear of boxers going off the deep end like this due to CTE? I mean there's is a sport where the entire point is to try to knock their opponent unconscious. No, truth be told, Hernandez was a murdering gang banging scumbag, nothing more, and a coward to boot. Sorry but I simply cannot buy the "devil made him do it" defense. I mean, is this going to soon be Joe Mixon's excuse too?
 

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DB, I respect your opinion but maybe perhaps he was just a POS?

Why not look at his brain so we can get a good answer to that question?

Unlike a growing belief in this country, science is not some giant liberal scam. It actually tries to honestly, in the most rigorous and effective way humans have ever done it, answer questions like yours.

Once the answers come, then it moves into the realm of society and politics and we can make moral judgments like you are now. But without the knowledge first, everyone is grabbing butt and talking out their blowholes.
 

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Why not look at his brain so we can get a good answer to that question?

Unlike a growing belief in this country, science is not some giant liberal scam. It actually tries to honestly, in the most rigorous and effective way humans have ever done it, answer questions like yours.

Once the answers come, then it moves into the realm of society and politics and we can make moral judgments like you are now. But without the knowledge first, everyone is grabbing butt and talking out their blowholes.

So nobody's allowed to call him a POS until years--or decades--later, when the science has caught up? Nope. He's a POS now; maybe science someday gives us some background as to PART of the reason he was a POS.
 

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So nobody's allowed to call him a POS until years--or decades--later, when the science has caught up? Nope. He's a POS now; maybe science someday gives us some background as to PART of the reason he was a POS.
Oh, you can say that all you want. You just don't know if he was brain damaged or not, so you are just puffing an opinion, not making an argument about his brain on fact.

Free country though, call him whatever you want.
 

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Oh, you can say that all you want. You just don't know if he was brain damaged or not, so you are just puffing an opinion, not making an argument about his brain on fact.

Free country though, call him whatever you want.

Oh, it's not an opinion. He WAS a POS, no matter what you say. Was CTE in any way involved in making him one? That we won't know for a long time. In his case, it's pretty safe to say that it wasn't, given his actions and behaviors from a very young age. I'm not about to attribute his thug life to CTE, and it's terribly irresponsible to do so at this point.
 

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Oh, it's not an opinion. He WAS a POS, no matter what you say. Was CTE in any way involved in making him one? That we won't know for a long time. In his case, it's pretty safe to say that it wasn't, given his actions and behaviors from a very young age. I'm not about to attribute his thug life to CTE, and it's terribly irresponsible to do so at this point.

His own brother says their father's death in 2006 affected Aaron greatly and that he always had a history of hanging with the wrong kinds of people which often placed him in bad situations. Money and fame likely escalated the bad element of "friends" which surrounded him. He had choices. He just chose poorly. Wasted life.
 

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His own brother says their father's death in 2006 affected Aaron greatly and that he always had a history of hanging with the wrong kinds of people which often placed him in bad situations. Money and fame likely escalated the bad element of "friends" which surrounded him. He had choices. He just chose poorly. Wasted life.

+1

If you want to point your finger at something, his father's death is a better bet.
 

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Oh, it's not an opinion. He WAS a POS, no matter what you say. Was CTE in any way involved in making him one? That we won't know for a long time. In his case, it's pretty safe to say that it wasn't, given his actions and behaviors from a very young age. I'm not about to attribute his thug life to CTE, and it's terribly irresponsible to do so at this point.

I don't even know if he had CTE. I haven't attributed any of his crimes to CTE because of that.

What's wrong with taking a look at his brain? It might show no CTE at all.
 

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Why not look at his brain so we can get a good answer to that question?

Unlike a growing belief in this country, science is not some giant liberal scam. It actually tries to honestly, in the most rigorous and effective way humans have ever done it, answer questions like yours.

Once the answers come, then it moves into the realm of society and politics and we can make moral judgments like you are now. But without the knowledge first, everyone is grabbing butt and talking out their blowholes.
You lost me when you tried to politicize this with this bull crap statement.
 

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