Adrian Wilson

[pete]

What do the Cards do with this guy? He seems to have all the physical tools to be a solid NFL safety, but always seems to be in the wrong place and constantly making mistakes. Was it bad coaching or does this guy just not have the mental aptitude to get the job done?

 

[Pariah]

I fear he may be stuck in no-man's land this year. Reportedly, the Cards ahve told him to report to camp lighter so he can play CB. But, if that doesn't work out, he's going to be too light to play his brand of Safety.

Personally, I'd rather see him stick to safety and see if a change in coaching and another year under his belt helps out at all.

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by pete
What do the Cards do with this guy? He seems to have all the physical tools to be a solid NFL safety, but always seems to be in the wrong place and constantly making mistakes. Was it bad coaching or does this guy just not have the mental aptitude to get the job done?

I will hazard a guess that you will hear both arguements......some think he is a bag of hammers......and others think he's been poorly coached.

I'm in the latter group.....Mac wasn't absolutely blind to talent......he and his assistants just couldn't coach anybody, and I mean anybody.

I would venture to guess that the AZ Cardinals coaching capabilities (ie being able to get talent to perform) was NEVER WORSE than under Mac

 

[pete]

Re: Re: Adrian Wilson

Originally posted by spanky1
I will hazard a guess that you will hear both arguements......some think he is a bag of hammers......and others think he's been poorly coached.

I'm in the latter group.....Mac wasn't absolutely blind to talent......he and his assistants just couldn't coach anybody, and I mean anybody.

I would venture to guess that the AZ Cardinals coaching capabilities (ie being able to get talent to perform) was NEVER WORSE than under Mac

Other than Aeneas and Rice, did any other Cardinal on the defensive side of the ball ever make it to the pro bowl during the last coaching regime? Those guys never developed squat.

I am so glad Marmie and crew are gone. That was Mac's biggest mistake, keeping all of his cronies when he took over for the clipboard hugger.

 

[Canadian Card]

Re: Re: Adrian Wilson

Originally posted by spanky1
I will hazard a guess that you will hear both arguements......some think he is a bag of hammers......and others think he's been poorly coached.

I'm in the latter group.....Mac wasn't absolutely blind to talent......he and his assistants just couldn't coach anybody, and I mean anybody.

I would venture to guess that the AZ Cardinals coaching capabilities (ie being able to get talent to perform) was NEVER WORSE than under Mac

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

Wilson has been the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER on this team for the past three years. I'm glad this is his contract year. Put him at CB and then tell him to get lost is he doesn't cut it. He talks the talk but then trips and stumbles when he tries to walk the walk.

 

[Snakester]

The coaches knew Wilson was raw when they drafted him. Watching him here in NC I saw that he had very good talent, but I knew that he was going to take about four years before all the lights went on with him. It was up to the coaches to teach him correctly and to use him to his strengths.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by Oran
Wilson has been the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER on this team for the past three years. I'm glad this is his contract year. Put him at CB and then tell him to get lost is he doesn't cut it. He talks the talk but then trips and stumbles when he tries to walk the walk.

no offense, but I wouldn't quit your day job (if you have one) just yet to be an NFL HC. (or any upper level business management position.

First of all to say Adrian Wilson "trips and stumbles when he tries to walk the talk" is so far off base and just homones talking.
The guy is a physically gifted athlete. To make him out to be some bumbling bozo lacking in physical ablility is asinine.

But...to the issue I referred to initially, to "Put him at CB and then tell him to get lost is he doesn't cut it. " is so childish and lacking in "management" acumen to be ridiculous.

.....a terrible, terrible post. One that certainly does little to gain you much credibility with your comments and viewpoints.

 

[AZCB34]

Unless there is some basis to believe Wilson can actually play CB, I doubt seriously it will happen with any success. He is a S not a CB. Either keep him at his natural position or then the decision should have been to not tender him. The last thing the Cards need to do, is take a raw player out of college whom they invested 3 years developing and then make him change positions just when he may be finally getting the true coaching he really needs and may be ready to blossom as a S.

I have always maintained that Wilson really believed his pure ability would help him win the day and would bail him out of jams, howvere in the NFL, everyone was ability. The good to great ones still have to put in the mental effort in order to place their abilites in the proper places to make the plays. I believe (with no proof) that Wilson didn't take the mental preparation seriously enough but I believe he will now.

I think there is no other explanation for his being out of position so often. No matter how bad the coaching may have been, I find it impossible to believe the coaches would have had him so far out of position so often.

 

[Tangodnzr]

I totally agree with you Cubby.

It also piqued my attention, when Wilson, from the comments in his interview, commented that he didn't seem all that jazzed about moving to CB and considers himself a safety.

As long as that's the way he feels...rightly or wrongly, I think its probably pissing into the wind to try and force him to do something he really doesn't want to do.

Myself, I would have to agree that I think the safety spot really does fit his talents better, and I will be surprised if he ends up not staying there.

Sure, go ahead and try him at CB early in pre-season, but I just don't think the chances of it being a good move are overwhelmingly high.

 

[cardsunsfan]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr
no offense, but I wouldn't quit your day job (if you have one) just yet to be an NFL HC. (or any upper level business management position.

First of all to say Adrian Wilson "trips and stumbles when he tries to walk the talk" is so far off base and just homones talking.
The guy is a physically gifted athlete. To make him out to be some bumbling bozo lacking in physical ablility is asinine.

But...to the issue I referred to initially, to "Put him at CB and then tell him to get lost is he doesn't cut it. " is so childish and lacking in "management" acumen to be ridiculous.

.....a terrible, terrible post. One that certainly does little to gain you much credibility with your comments and viewpoints.

It's funny but I didn't check to see who posted this at first but I knew it had to be Tango. Tango is the only guy on here who's posts seem to be ripping on ASFN members more than half the time.

 

[SECTION 11]

What exactly are homones??

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
What exactly are homones??

They're what make you gay.

 

[Skkorpion]

Adrian Wilson will be cut after this year when DG learns just how bad he is.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by SunCardfan
It's funny but I didn't check to see who posted this at first but I knew it had to be Tango. Tango is the only guy on here who's posts seem to be ripping on ASFN members more than half the time.

I just call 'em like I see 'em.

Are you jealous cause I didn't mention your name? ... or just carrying a grudge because you may have been the victim of one of my less than flattering comments, in the past?

Let me guess?

One of my pet peeves is ignorant posts here that demeaningly denounce players or members of the Cards organization (or anyone, for that matter) who are not in a position to respond or defend themselves against such ignorance.

It never ceases to amaze me how so many posters here get their panties in a knot because someone may make a comment about them, which they are free to counter if they feel the need or desire, yet feel free to denigrate professional athletes, etc that can't repsond, for whatever reason. Talk about a double standard and a chicken **** way of doing things.

Besides....if only half the posters here are idiots, that would be a vast improvement over any other Cards site I've ever seen.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Wilson playing CB would be difficult

Wilson lacks the hips to make smooth accelerations in response to a WR. He has the speed but that would be wasted in adjusting. Mike Stone, is one guy I'm also looking at that might finally benefit from decent coaching. Freaking Mike Stone has the atheletic ability to play corner at a high level. I know I have picked on Stone, but damn the kid has all the physical tools.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr
The guy is a physically gifted athlete.

Not all physically gifted atheletes are good football players.

Some NFL players are not as good as other NFL players.
Rumor has is that there's even some Arizona Cardinals that aren't very good comparatively.

 

[Skkorpion]

Aw, Tango, go have a beer and mellow out.

I'm tired of banning you.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
Not all physically gifted atheletes are good football players.

Some NFL players are not as good as other NFL players.
Rumor has is that there's even some Arizona Cardinals that aren't very good comparatively.

Have you ever thought of running for political office?

I must say your elucidation of the obvious is worthy maybe even of a cabinet post in Dubya's administration.

You have talent, my man. Who knows, you may even be able to make a flat tire out of pygmy.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Tangodnzr
You have talent, my man. Who knows, you may even be able to make a flat tire out of pygmy.

Can't be done.
Can't ride home on a bowl of goat either. Sucks...

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Wilson got to step up and make some plays this year. He's got probably another 8 games to start producing before he starts seeing some serious bench time.

Sometimes people describe players as "always around the ball" Wilson is just the opposite. Oh well, hopefully it was Marmies sorry schemes.