AJ Feely

[kerouac9]

spanky keeps bringing this up. I think the guy sucks, and would rather have Parsons and McCown. spanky wants to bring him in for $2 mil bonus and $1 mil per season (more money than McCown makes). What do you think?

 

[birdie]

From reading past posts, I think the guys only want him to come here because of his girlfriend anyway...

 

[ajcardfan]

Only if we can sign Jay Feeley as well. In that case, the entertainment value of have two guys on the same team whose names end in "J Feeley" would make it worth it.

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by kerouac9
spanky keeps bringing this up. I think the guy sucks, and would rather have Parsons and McCown. spanky wants to bring him in for $2 mil bonus and $1 mil per season (more money than McCown makes). What do you think?

kerouac9,

I believe that we need a FA QB on the roster in the event that McCown gets injured.....that's all. Without this type of back up, we are very exposed with Parsons as the only choice. Feeley is available and at a price that is more cap friendly than Blake's package was. If you have a better candidate in mind I'd be happy to hear your point of view.

I did not come up with the $2MM salary and $1MM bonus idea. That what was provided as an estimate in The Huddle Report by Aaron Freeman, who recently had a summary of the approximate and or likely packages it would take to sign various FA's.

Listen....I've gone on record a dozen times or more as saying that McCown is our guy. I believe this to the point of excluding any thoughts about Manning and Roesthlisberger as potential picks with our #3. As to what role Parsons ends up playing, I advocate that Feeley is only a possibility to compete for the #2 position on the depth chart....that's all.

Please be more accurate when you say things like "spanky wants to".....

So now........who do YOU think we should target a a replacement for Blake as a QB with some veteran experience?

 

[CaptTurbo]

Dont mind k9, he could be allergic to qb's that win.

 

[Cardinal Bob]

Originally posted by kerouac9
spanky keeps bringing this up. I think the guy sucks, and would rather have Parsons and McCown. spanky wants to bring him in for $2 mil bonus and $1 mil per season (more money than McCown makes). What do you think?

I think spanky is high.

Forget about AJ Feeley. He's no better than McCown, IMO.

 

[spanky1]

Re: Re: AJ Feely

Originally posted by Cardinal Bob
I think spanky is high.

Forget about AJ Feeley. He's no better than McCown, IMO.

For cryin out loud........I AM NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE BRING AJ FEELEY IN AS A QB TO COMPETE FOR THE STARTING QB POSITION.

All I'm saying is that he might be a solid candidate for the #2 QB position.

And once again.......THESE ARE NOT MY RECOMMENDED SALARY/BONUS NUMBERS.

Geeeezzz......look what you've started kerouac

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Originally posted by swd1974
Dont mind k9, he could be allergic to qb's that win.

Swd, your obvious homerism for Pennsylvania comes shining through once again. In 5 career starts Feeley has 5 TDs, 5 Ints, with a 55% completion and a rating of 72. McCown has three starts, throwing 3 Tds and 2 Ints, with a completion % of 60, and a rating of 80.3. Why would we sign Feeley to a contract when we have someone with better numbers already here?

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Bad idea, cant afford him for the role he would play.

Plus, maybe it is just me, but I imagine he will want to go to a team that actually gives him a chance to start

 

[40yearfan]

Spanky, why do you feel Feeley is better than McCown?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Every offseason his name comes up.

Every year it seems he is on a different team.

Every year you never hear his name during the regular season.

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Bad idea, cant afford him for the role he would play.

Plus, maybe it is just me, but I imagine he will want to go to a team that actually gives him a chance to start

Finally, someone that has understood what I was trying to say and has responded with something to think about......that being that Feeley will likely only go to a team if he's got a ggod chance to start and that as a back-up, his numbers are too rich.

LVCARDFREAK.....do you have any thoughts as to who might fill the profile of a vet who won't freeze like a deer in the headlights if they have to come in to replace McCown in the event of an injury?

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by 40yearfan
Spanky, why do you feel Feeley is better than McCown?

I guess I made my point!

 

[kerouac9]

Re: Re: AJ Feely

Originally posted by spanky1
kerouac9,

I believe that we need a FA QB on the roster in the event that McCown gets injured.....that's all. Without this type of back up, we are very exposed with Parsons as the only choice. Feeley is available and at a price that is more cap friendly than Blake's package was. If you have a better candidate in mind I'd be happy to hear your point of view.

I did not come up with the $2MM salary and $1MM bonus idea. That what was provided as an estimate in The Huddle Report by Aaron Freeman, who recently had a summary of the approximate and or likely packages it would take to sign various FA's.

Listen....I've gone on record a dozen times or more as saying that McCown is our guy. I believe this to the point of excluding any thoughts about Manning and Roesthlisberger as potential picks with our #3. As to what role Parsons ends up playing, I advocate that Feeley is only a possibility to compete for the #2 position on the depth chart....that's all.

Please be more accurate when you say things like "spanky wants to".....

So now........who do YOU think we should target a a replacement for Blake as a QB with some veteran experience?

Yeah, but (1) Feeley is going to want to go to a place where he can start, and you've said that you want Feeley and McCown to "fight it out" to see who gets the starting job. Which is it, spank?

(2) You could get Jeff George for exactly the veteran minimum. You could get Todd Bowman for about the same price. Those guys are going to be waiting by the phone, and are equally solid backup players. They won't need to be stroked with promises of "chances at the starting job." Chris Chandler might make an interesting veteran fit into Green's system. All these guys are old and ending their careers.

With Feeley, you have a guy that desperately wants to start in this league. That kind of player would be a distraction. Feeley's 5 career starts hardly makes him a better "veteran" option than any of these guys, and at more money.

Please get off the pipe. The defense won those games for Philly, and that's why no one was interested in him last free agency. Get a veteran player that knows his role.

 

[spanky1]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
Every offseason his name comes up.

Every year it seems he is on a different team.

Every year you never hear his name during the regular season.

The perfect profile for a back up QB

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
Every offseason his name comes up.

Every year it seems he is on a different team.

Every year you never hear his name during the regular season.

Huh? Feely was drafted by the Eagles and still plays for the Eagles, he has never left the Eagles.

 

[spanky1]

So Feeley thinks of himself as the next Jake Delhomme......fine. On to plan B.......

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by spanky1
Finally, someone that has understood what I was trying to say and has responded with something to think about......that being that Feeley will likely only go to a team if he's got a ggod chance to start and that as a back-up, his numbers are too rich.

LVCARDFREAK.....do you have any thoughts as to who might fill the profile of a vet who won't freeze like a deer in the headlights if they have to come in to replace McCown in the event of an injury?

No I really dont and that is what bother me about cutting Blake. You certainly wont get a backup as good as he has been over his career, and now QB becomes a need position that this team HAS to fill.

I think you will probably see a "Clip board holder' type guy come in

Some names out there that might not cost that much:

Doug Johnson
Shaun King
Jonathan Quinn
Ty Detmer
Scott Covington

No one to get too excited about. Remember if you pay this guy more than $1million it will turn into a net loss for the season. And none of these guys are as good as Blake

 

[Rats]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
No I really dont and that is what bother me about cutting Blake. You certainly wont get a backup as good as he has been over his career, and now QB becomes a need position that this team HAS to fill.

I think you will probably see a "Clip board holder' type guy come in

Some names out there that might not cost that much:

Doug Johnson
Shaun King
Jonathan Quinn
Ty Detmer
Scott Covington

No one to get too excited about. Remember if you pay this guy more than $1million it will turn into a net loss for the season. And none of these guys are as good as Blake

IF a vet comes in it will be for league mimimum and that will only cost us 500K or so on the cap. So stop trying to make believe that cutting Blake and eating his bonus is going to cost us. We saved money and headache by cutting his sorry arse.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Rats
IF a vet comes in it will be for league mimimum and that will only cost us 500K or so on the cap. So stop trying to make believe that cutting Blake and eating his bonus is going to cost us. We saved money and headache by cutting his sorry arse.

WOW Great arguement! Won me over...


I dont really have anymore to say that I havent already. You like the move, which is fine, and I wont be able to persuade you otherwise.

I am just glad you are keeping pace with the 5 year program as that is how long it will take to win with the trio of McCown, Parsons, and Dave Brown jr as the QB's

 

[Rats]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
WOW Great arguement! Won me over...


I dont really have anymore to say that I havent already. You like the move, which is fine, and I wont be able to persuade you otherwise.

I am just glad you are keeping pace with the 5 year program as that is how long it will take to win with the trio of McCown, Parsons, and Dave Brown jr as the QB's

Yeah, well we will disagree then, but I will trust In Dennis Green and his decesion making. And maybe 5 yrs with McCown (we already have him for 2) will be alot better then NEVER with Jeff Blake

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Rats
Yeah, well we will disagree then, but I will trust In Dennis Green and his decesion making. And maybe 5 yrs with McCown (we already have him for 2) will be alot better then NEVER with Jeff Blake

Apparently you miss the point. Keep Blake as the veteren backup (which the Cards will now have to address anyway) cut Parsons and draft a FRANCHISE QB.

No one is saying ride Blake to the Superbowl.

 

[Rats]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Apparently you miss the point. Keep Blake as the veteren backup (which the Cards will now have to address anyway) cut Parsons and draft a FRANCHISE QB.

No one is saying ride Blake to the Superbowl.

I thought you had nothing more to say on this. And I thought your point was that Blake should continue to take snaps from a young QB that we have to bring along. Blake would not have added anything to his development and he could be a detriment. Dennis Green has spelled it out for you....Blakes attitude and his inconsistant play last year made this an easy decision. A coachable backup will be added who has value.....its not that hard.

 

[Southpaw]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Apparently you miss the point. Keep Blake as the veteren backup (which the Cards will now have to address anyway) cut Parsons and draft a FRANCHISE QB.

No one is saying ride Blake to the Superbowl.

Are there only a few of us who understand the possibility that "Leon" Blake doesn't want to be a backup. I assume that is why he didn't take a paycut and remain in Baltimore. For "Leon" to be part of this team next year, he would need a personality transplant and take a major pay cut. This is a 4 win team, who aren't going to get appreciably better by keeping Blake. Blake had his chance last year and obviously didn't do things that Green translates into reasons for keeping him. In the words of Ken Hawk Harrelson, " HE GONE ".

I doubt if the Cardinals go past the FA period and Draft weekend without picking up at least 1 QB. They need 4 qbs to get through mini camps and pre season. Where these 4 guys end up depends on performance. There is no way I see Mc Cowns #1 status etched in stone. I like the guy , but if something better comes along so be it.

P.S. Maybe Josh is the next Marc Bulger, but I sure hope he gets on some Ritalin. That boy gets too excited.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by wallyburger
Are there only a few of us who understand the possibility that "Leon" Blake doesn't want to be a backup. I assume that is why he didn't take a paycut and remain in Baltimore. For "Leon" to be part of this team next year, he would need a personality transplant and take a major pay cut. This is a 4 win team, who aren't going to get appreciably better by keeping Blake. Blake had his chance last year and obviously didn't do things that Green translates into reasons for keeping him. In the words of Ken Hawk Harrelson, " HE GONE ".

I doubt if the Cardinals go past the FA period and Draft weekend without picking up at least 1 QB. They need 4 qbs to get through mini camps and pre season. Where these 4 guys end up depends on performance. There is no way I see Mc Cowns #1 status etched in stone. I like the guy , but if something better comes along so be it.

P.S. Maybe Josh is the next Marc Bulger, but I sure hope he gets on some Ritalin. That boy gets too excited.

So now you go into the seaosn with what? McCown and Parsons? Who is your other QB? A Draft pick? I am not OK with having McCown, Parsons and a rookie as the QB's on this team..And no one else should be either if you buy intot hat crap about winning while turning this thing around Green spewed.

I will just be very interested to see what the Cards do in the way of a veteren QB, how much he costs, and how willing he will be to hold a clip board as opposed to getting an opportunity to play.

And whats with the LEON reference? I only remember rave reviews from the coaching staff and McCown after Blake was benched. doesnt sound like LEON to me.