Alan Branch BPA at #5?

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It seems like Branch may be the highest rated player on the board when we pick. I think he may be high on the wish list. It is clear that Whis wants to be better at stuffing the run, and Branch excells at taking up multiple blockers. If we were to pick him, would there be any chance that Dockett could be moved to right defensive end? I would like to see Dockett rotate from tackle to end, especially if Chike is less effective. Keeping Berry and Okeafor fresh should be a priority, and with Antonio Smith and possibly Dockett backing up the position we should be ok. The addition of Branch would really bolster the DT's and would help us against the run. We would still need to find someone to pressure the QB, throwing the bank at Adalius Thomas seems to be a good idea to me.
 

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It seems like Branch may be the highest rated player on the board when we pick. I think he may be high on the wish list. It is clear that Whis wants to be better at stuffing the run, and Branch excells at taking up multiple blockers. If we were to pick him, would there be any chance that Dockett could be moved to right defensive end? I would like to see Dockett rotate from tackle to end, especially if Chike is less effective. Keeping Berry and Okeafor fresh should be a priority, and with Antonio Smith and possibly Dockett backing up the position we should be ok. The addition of Branch would really bolster the DT's and would help us against the run. We would still need to find someone to pressure the QB, throwing the bank at Adalius Thomas seems to be a good idea to me.

It depends on where the QBs go. If both Quinn and Russell go top 4 (All four need a franchise QB), then one of Johnson, Peterson, Thomas drop to #5.

If not, it's currently pretty even between Adams, Branch and Anderson.
 
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It depends on where the QBs go. If both Quinn and Russell go top 4, then one of Johnson, Peterson, Thomas drop to #5.

If not, it's currently pretty even between Adams, Branch and Anderson.



True...hopefully Quinn and Russell both have great workouts. If either Thomas or Peterson falls, we have to take them if we believe in BPA.
 

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Branch is below Anderson in my book too....maybe behind Adams too depending on the workout numbers.
 

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I like the potential of Jonathan Lewis and Gabe Watson at DT. I think Jamaal Anderson is a better prospect than Branch. I like Gaines Adams, but I think he is too light.

Of Branch, Anderson and Adams, I would hope we take Anderson.
 

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1) Alan Branch is over-rated.. he does not show up in big games... he plays very well against over-matched opponents... but fades against top competition.. check every Ohio St. game from the last three years... the USC game this year.. and handful others against good teams...

2) Anderson and Adams... nice players... no potential to be Pro Bowl level guys... u do not pick guys like this with the #5 pick...

We need to trade down if Thomas and Peterson are off the board... Someone will want that pick cause there are 5 bigtime players on the board in Russell, Thomas, Peterson, CJ, and Quinn...

We need to get out of the 5 spot, try to grab an extra 2nd rounder or a 3rd rounder... and draft either Reggie Nelson, Laron Landry, or Levi Brown..

Note: I hope u guys clamoring for Anderson, Branch or Adams, have seen them play often, cause I have and it's evident to me their maximum potential doesnt justify the #5 draft pick
 

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2) Anderson and Adams... nice players... no potential to be Pro Bowl level guys... u do not pick guys like this with the #5 pick...

You have got to be kidding about Jammal Anderson. He has been compared to Richard Seymore with his measurables.
 

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I Have No Idea......

if any of the three mentioned guys are future Pro Bowl players, but I only have to ask about Marcus McNeill, who went in the 2nd round and yet made the Pro Bowl. You never know. And to make a statement, either pro or con, that sounds like it's coming straight from God, well it makes no sense. The team is paying lots of money to people to make that decision. And recently they been pretty successful. And while some of us might have seen plenty of games that so and so has played in, we're usually only concentrating on an individual player for a few plays. Scouts look at their target the entire game and then watch tapes of the game to see if they missed something. So if we like a certain player by all means say so, but don't make it sound that someone else can't be a good selection. JMO.
 

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McNeill is a bad example, he had back issues that teams were concerned about. SD had their doctors look at him and they were willing to take the risk.
 

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Pardon me but barring anything changing drastically in free agency, aren't you guys A LOT better off right now at DT than you are at OT? In what world would you pass up Joe Thomas or Levi Brown for anybody? You guys have been in need of a REAL franchise LT for years and now one should be staring you in the face. What am I missing?
 

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Just watched BRANCH do over 40 reps at 225lb, at the combine.
 

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BPA concept may be a bit different in AZ this year.

Whiz and his staff have given Graves and his scouts "job descriptions" for every position (& I'd guess every spot on the roster). The BPA ratings will probably be adjusted so that a player's rating will go a bit higher or lower depending how well he fits the profile Whiz and his people have lain out.

Until we know what Clancy P and his staff are looking for in a DE, DT or anywhere else., it will be hard to determine whether Branch, Okoye, Anderson, Adams, Carricker etc. will be be better or worse suited to fit the job description.

In absolute terms, I get the feeling that Branch is sliding just a bit, while Okoye since the Senior Bowl - has become the flavor of the month. (Remember - this doesn't mean that either of these guys has changed one iota - it just means the buzz about them has).
 

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Pardon me but barring anything changing drastically in free agency, aren't you guys A LOT better off right now at DT than you are at OT? In what world would you pass up Joe Thomas or Levi Brown for anybody? You guys have been in need of a REAL franchise LT for years and now one should be staring you in the face. What am I missing?

I think this argument is based on Thomas being gone at #5.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1260995&postcount=4

I like Levi Brown, but I don't know if he is worth the #5 pick. I could see us trading down and taking him.
 

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Pardon me but barring anything changing drastically in free agency, aren't you guys A LOT better off right now at DT than you are at OT? In what world would you pass up Joe Thomas or Levi Brown for anybody? You guys have been in need of a REAL franchise LT for years and now one should be staring you in the face. What am I missing?
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Jamaal Anderson.

If we are going DE then it is surely Anderson. They were discussing yesterday the downside of the other big DE. Jamaal has very little downside and has been healthy. I am thinking? Jamaal may have come to Arkansas as a FS but grew into a DE. I watched every one of his games that were on TV in the SEC and he is a force day in and day out. Also not a nut case but a good guy.
 

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True...hopefully Quinn and Russell both have great workouts. If either Thomas or Peterson falls, we have to take them if we believe in BPA.

After that time Peterson turned in yesterday I do not see him ever dropping to us if teams are going BPA.
 

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1) Alan Branch is over-rated.. he does not show up in big games... he plays very well against over-matched opponents... but fades against top competition.. check every Ohio St. game from the last three years... the USC game this year.. and handful others against good teams...

2) Anderson and Adams... nice players... no potential to be Pro Bowl level guys... u do not pick guys like this with the #5 pick..

We need to trade down if Thomas and Peterson are off the board... Someone will want that pick cause there are 5 bigtime players on the board in Russell, Thomas, Peterson, CJ, and Quinn...

We need to get out of the 5 spot, try to grab an extra 2nd rounder or a 3rd rounder... and draft either Reggie Nelson, Laron Landry, or Levi Brown..

Note: I hope u guys clamoring for Anderson, Branch or Adams, have seen them play often, cause I have and it's evident to me their maximum potential doesnt justify the #5 draft pick


I have seen every game Anderson has played on TV since he arrived at Arkansas and that is a lot. He will be a starter and likely this year for whoever drafts him. 289 lbs of muscle with speed.
 

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Pardon me but barring anything changing drastically in free agency, aren't you guys A LOT better off right now at DT than you are at OT? In what world would you pass up Joe Thomas or Levi Brown for anybody? You guys have been in need of a REAL franchise LT for years and now one should be staring you in the face. What am I missing?

Having a LH QB we need our best tackle on the right side. It should be BIG but our powers do not think he is worth ll mil and I do not either. I still think he is the best FA tackle/Guard out there and hope we might get him back at some reasonable figure.
 

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Pardon me but barring anything changing drastically in free agency, aren't you guys A LOT better off right now at DT than you are at OT? In what world would you pass up Joe Thomas or Levi Brown for anybody? You guys have been in need of a REAL franchise LT for years and now one should be staring you in the face. What am I missing?
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I have seen every game Anderson has played on TV since he arrived at Arkansas and that is a lot. He will be a starter and likely this year for whoever drafts him. 289 lbs of muscle with speed.

I agree that Anderson will be a solid NFL starter. I just am not convinced that he will be a Pro Bowl player. At pick #5, you should draft a Pro Bowl player.
 

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Pardon me but barring anything changing drastically in free agency, aren't you guys A LOT better off right now at DT than you are at OT? In what world would you pass up Joe Thomas or Levi Brown for anybody? You guys have been in need of a REAL franchise LT for years and now one should be staring you in the face. What am I missing?

1. Leinart is lefthanded, making the right side the blindside.

2. No one is expecting Thomas to be there at #5.

3. The Cards have succesfully used the Best Player Approach over the past years, and most of us expect Graves to do it again, though not to the same extent.
 

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We will see what might accore in this draft as next week opens FA hunting season with no catch limits. If Davis coimes back to us and I would rate it at 50-50 it would change our thinking at the 5 spot. If we don't resign Davis and Thomas is gone trading down for Levi might be the way to go.
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