Aldridge: Nash 6yrs/66M$

[slinslin]

1st 8.8M$
2nd 9.68M$
3rd 10.56M$
4th 11.44M$
5th 12.32M$
6th 13.2M$

= 6yrs/66.0M$

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1833603

If you add that to our to our payroll according to hoopshype we should be at 36,801,083$ now with the cap expected to be at 45-46M$ we should have about 9M$ left minus caphold penalties.

Maybe enough to sign Richardson to a rich offer sheet, Ostertag of Foyle for about 2M$ and McDyess hopefully for the veteran minimum for this season.

McDyess strongest options were Houston and New Jersey. New Jersey is in salary cut mode and Houston is shopping their MLE of Brent Barry or Derek Fisher it looks like.

McDyess/Ostertag/Voshkul
Amare/Lampe
Marion/Zarko
Johnson/Richardson/Jacobsen
Nash/Barbosa

IR: Eisley, Vroman

 

[Yuma]

That makes me feel a little better about the contract issue with Nash. I aam not so worried about the back end of his contract due to recent history on point gurads with this team and their short tenures! I was more concerned he was eating up ALL our cap space this season, thus not being able to upgrade the center position.

 

[slinslin]

Maybe Brent Barry and Folye or Ostertag would be more realistic since Barry is UFA and the market price has been set already by the Rockets and Barry.

 

[elindholm]

I hope those numbers are right. Of course, since it's Aldridge, they're just as likely to be wrong, but I'll stay optimistic for now.

Other guesses at the contract started at $10 or even $10.8 million. The extra million or two might make a big difference before the summer is out. I'm much happier about the signing now.

(Note to the administrators: We need a "whew" smiley!)

Now let's go get Etan Thomas or Foyle!

 

[Goldfield]

much better than first thought...


I would much rather get Berry that Richardson.

Add Dice, and any one of the three centers above(Ostertag,Thomas,Foyle). And this off season was a major success!

 

[Goldfield]

I have also heared the 6th year is a TEAM option... But I dont know is that is a fact or not...

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I have also heared the 6th year is a TEAM option... But I dont know is that is a fact or not...

Yeah it has a big buyout.

This contract actually makes Nash a great pickup. My one complaint just vanished.

 

[Goldfield]

Yeah it has a big buyout.

This contract actually makes Nash a great pickup. My one complaint just vanished.

Although I was willing to bite the bullet of overpaying him, because he is the perfect PG for this team. I was worried about how big the contract looked.

This seems to be much more friendly.

 

[sly fly]

Wow. Talk about everyone jumping the gun.

Everyone's panties were in such a tither.

 

[elindholm]

Wow. Talk about everyone jumping the gun.

Everyone's panties were in such a tither.

Hey, all we can do is react to the information we have.

 

[sly fly]

Wow. Talk about everyone jumping the gun.

Everyone's panties were in such a tither.

Hey, all we can do is react to the information we have.

Still, funny.

 

[F-Dog]

It's only a difference of about $5m from the previous assumption of $10/$11/$12/$13/$14/$5m, but for some reason it seems more manageable.


If the Suns think they have $7.5m in cap space left, that suggests that they expect the cap to be slightly more than $44m.


If Aldridge is right, I'm now surprised a little that Ginobili cancelled his visit with the Suns. He must be awfully confident that his demands will be met elsewhere...

 

[sly fly]

I guess that's why I tend to judge on the player instead of the money issues.

Never been one to care for that side of the game.

Get the best players you can. Hope they have chemistry. And, let the owner worry about the money.

 

[elindholm]

I guess that's why I tend to judge on the player instead of the money issues.

Come on, sly fly, it is a personnel issue. The amount they spend on Nash determines how much they have left, which determines how much additional talent they can bring in. It's all about fielding the best possible team.

If the salary-cap implications for the rest of this summer weren't so critical, I wouldn't care whether it was $8.8 or $10 million.

 

[sly fly]

I guess that's why I tend to judge on the player instead of the money issues.

Come on, sly fly, it is a personnel issue. The amount they spend on Nash determines how much they have left, which determines how much additional talent they can bring in. It's all about fielding the best possible team.

If the salary-cap implications for the rest of this summer weren't so critical, I wouldn't care whether it was $8.8 or $10 million.

I understand that. But, I still react differently when a player I like gets signed. I don't get into the money issues, because:

- I don't know what's going on within the organization. No one here does. I put my trust in them to try and make the best decisions.

It always doesn't turn out that way, but we're lucky we have a team that tries to improve when they have the flexibility to do so.

A perfect example of this is Steve Nash. I liked the signing from Day 1. Heck, I liked him when he was playing for Santa Clara and crushing the UofA on national TV.

Nash being signed for $8.8 or $10.8 mil is not going to change my mind about having him on this team.

If it adversely affects their payroll, oh well. I guess we have to live with the ramifications down the road. But, at least we know that by him being on this team now ... it takes us one step back to being a powerhouse in the Western Conference.

I'll leave the # crunching to all of you capmeisters.

 

[sunsfn]

I think you can forget about the suns signing another guard, p or 2g.

They have Nash, JJ, CJ, Barbosa, Eisley, with Nash & JJ getting major minutes.

They have Marion, CJ, JJ, & Zarko, to play sf, so why would they want Richardson?

They will try to sign a big man or save the money and make a trade with another team, (to go big) or get in on a 3 team trade to get someone where they can take back some salary to make the deal work.

 

[elindholm]

I understand that. But, I still react differently when a player I like gets signed. I don't get into the money issues, because:

- I don't know what's going on within the organization. No one here does.

True, and in general I'd agree with your stance. In this case, nearly all of us are assuming that the Suns will use basically all of their cap space, one way or another, before the season starts. We know that can't spend anything more than that, except for minimum contracts.

Our guess may prove to be wrong: the Suns may not add anyone else, or they might add a lesser player and leave some money left over. In that case, the difference between $8.8 and $10.8 million isn't a big deal.

However, that is the approximate amount of cap space that was saved in the trade of the #7 pick. In other words, even though it's a small amount, it obviously wasn't small to the Suns, since they gave up a pick for it.

 

[slinslin]

Eric ( Ann Arbor): any news on rasheed and the pistons

David Aldridge: I've been told Rasheed probably won't make a decision until after the Fourth. He wants to spend the holiday with his family and hash out all the scenarios.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Wow. I certainly hope DA is more right about these #s than he was about Amare.

Here is what I believe. I believe the Suns have already worked out a deal to move Eisley. But it is contingent upon a free agent's decision.

If they move Eisley, you can add his $6.x salary to the 7.5 they have left. That would give them max money ($14 plus).

 

[pokerface]

1st 8.8M$
2nd 9.68M$
3rd 10.56M$
4th 11.44M$
5th 12.32M$
6th 13.2M$

= 6yrs/66.0M$

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1833603

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I didnt see the salary contract structure in that article. Where did you get it?

 

[The Commish]

I could possibly see that. But moving Eisley's contract would still require some picks or at least a decent player. Max contracts scare me because you are tied up in them for so long (ie Googs and Penny).

If this were the case though, I would love to add Rasheed Wallace. I know he can be firey and get into trouble at times, but if the Suns want to get guy thats big and intimidating then Rasheed is the man...Just think of a lineup of:

Nash
JJ
Marion
Amare
'Sheed

That team would just be nasty!

 

[slinslin]

1st 8.8M$
2nd 9.68M$
3rd 10.56M$
4th 11.44M$
5th 12.32M$
6th 13.2M$

= 6yrs/66.0M$

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1833603

[/QUOTE

I didnt see the salary contract structure in that article. Where did you get it?

Calculation?