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With the meat of our schedule approaching and a lot of tough games, some in prime time, am I crazy to think that 5-3 is the worst we will be going into our bye? We lost to undefeated bill led patriots, beat the snot out of Tampa, and lastly slept walked through an east coast trip and with a chance to come back but kicked and fumbled the game away. This team is good and I know we'll play to our capabilities soon, still can see 11-12 wins this year.


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Short answer, yes your crazy. Just ask your mother why... Funny but I was thinking about this last night, and I said it would not surprise me to see this team go on a 8 or 9 game winning streak.
 

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Short answer, yes your crazy. Just ask your mother why... Funny but I was thinking about this last night, and I said it would not surprise me to see this team go on a 8 or 9 game winning streak.

An 8 or 9 game winning streak is what is needed. It would sure energize everyone.
 
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Short answer, yes your crazy. Just ask your mother why... Funny but I was thinking about this last night, and I said it would not surprise me to see this team go on a 8 or 9 game winning streak.

"Go home dad you're drunk." The last couple of years this has been when we've made our mark on the season and build a nice winning streak. With people like HB and Fitz saying we're not playing like a playoff team and we need to find some leaders, I think it'll light a fire under our asses. This is the best team I've ever seen before in a Cardinals uniform and I'm not counting us out of even getting a first round bye or maybe a HFA, but we need to show up. Hopefully the team gets that now and we make a run.


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"your nuts" :)

Can't remember who that was attributed to - was it @Gee! ?
 
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I'll take 2 solid halves of football...played concurrently on the same day, of course.

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I also think the 1-2 start is being overblown and this team will win 11-13 games. I think there's a little bit of a hangover from the NFC championship game and they'll right themselves and start winning games, a lot of games.
 
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks we'll still be contenders this year. It starts Sunday though.


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I also think the 1-2 start is being overblown and this team will win 11-13 games. I think there's a little bit of a hangover from the NFC championship game and they'll right themselves and start winning games, a lot of games.

11 games would be the most optimistic someone can be without sounding irrational IMHO. Don't get me wrong I hope we win 14 games this year but that isn't happening and 13 games is just as crazy. You really think it is feasible to go 12 and 1 from here on out? In the last 5 out of 6 games we have played we have played like a .500 team at best and here we are 1 and 2 and this was suppose to be one of the easier parts of our schedule.

It's not a hangover from NFC game, the trend started a couple games earlier than that.

This team needs to focus on making the playoffs because that is far from a given. No one is freaking out because we are 1 and 2. We are freaking out because the problems we are seeing today have been around in the past but in smaller amounts and more often than not we managed to miraculously overcome them. The 2015 record and even the final scores make it seem like we destroyed everyone in our path but the reality was we had all the issues we have today but found ways to pull it off. Inconsistency, coming out flat, Palmer throwing bad picks, Butler and ST stinking up the joint, questionable play calling, defensive woes... All of it. But it usually wasn't all at once and it wasnt as amplified.

This team has the talent and capability but something has to improve. I don't know if it is practice, game planning, mentality, personel or all of the above. But something needs to start clicking fast or we could find ourselves at 1 and 3 or 1 and 4 and then we play jets hawks and Panthers so trying to get back to just 500 before the season is half way over would be hard.
 

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This team needs to focus on making the playoffs because that is far from a given. No one is freaking out because we are 1 and 2. We are freaking out because the problems we are seeing today have been around in the past but in smaller amounts and more often than not we managed to miraculously overcome them. The 2015 record and even the final scores make it seem like we destroyed everyone in our path but the reality was we had all the issues we have today but found ways to pull it off. Inconsistency, coming out flat, Palmer throwing bad picks, Butler and ST stinking up the joint, questionable play calling, defensive woes... All of it. But it usually wasn't all at once and it wasnt as amplified.

Isnt miraculously overcoming setbacks what all good teams do? Im just playing devil's advocate here, you guys seem to do the deep research, but isnt it possible that all the other 11+ win teams in this league have to go through the same stuff we did on our way to 13-3 last year? I certainly didnt pay attention to those other teams' games to know if they didnt have the same type of issues. No one rolls through the entire season without hiccups, right?

We definitely have issues. My argument is that in a parity filled league, we are definitely not the only team as such. But we as fans are looking at our teams issues in a microcosm. Not considering that fans of the patriots arent doing the same...nevermind. Patriot fans are infernally annoying. Maybe say Denver at 3-0, and Philly at the same. Maybe their fans arent freaking out, too?

I just think we're not that different than any other upper echelon team in this league. Good days and bad. And when the bad ones come you either rise to the occasion or you whither and die. We havent built historically winning culture as an organization yet to feel we have turned the corner. The players however, havent been here long enough to be as shell shocked as the fans. Lets hope the keep their blinders on, and start putting up a little fight.

Positional deficiencies aside, the problem I worry about is whether or not these players have the intestinal fortitude to handle the adversity. Lots of roster churn, and a coach saying the youngsters arent buying into the culture just yet is what concerns me.
 

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11 games would be the most optimistic someone can be without sounding irrational IMHO. Don't get me wrong I hope we win 14 games this year but that isn't happening and 13 games is just as crazy. You really think it is feasible to go 12 and 1 from here on out? In the last 5 out of 6 games we have played we have played like a .500 team at best and here we are 1 and 2 and this was suppose to be one of the easier parts of our schedule.

It's not a hangover from NFC game, the trend started a couple games earlier than that.

This team needs to focus on making the playoffs because that is far from a given. No one is freaking out because we are 1 and 2. We are freaking out because the problems we are seeing today have been around in the past but in smaller amounts and more often than not we managed to miraculously overcome them. The 2015 record and even the final scores make it seem like we destroyed everyone in our path but the reality was we had all the issues we have today but found ways to pull it off. Inconsistency, coming out flat, Palmer throwing bad picks, Butler and ST stinking up the joint, questionable play calling, defensive woes... All of it. But it usually wasn't all at once and it wasnt as amplified.

This team has the talent and capability but something has to improve. I don't know if it is practice, game planning, mentality, personel or all of the above. But something needs to start clicking fast or we could find ourselves at 1 and 3 or 1 and 4 and then we play jets hawks and Panthers so trying to get back to just 500 before the season is half way over would be hard.


seemed to start when we were dismantled by the seahags.... then after the game BA was telling a reporter, "we were not trying to win the game"...Fitz walking by gave him the strangest "WTF?" look....
The teams has never been the same since that game... maybe the players feel the staff betrayed them? By going in with a losing game plan and not telling them? Or by not really accepting responsibility for having your ass handed to you by a division rival?

this team has some serious issues right now and "It's all between the ears"... but whose ears?
 

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I also think the 1-2 start is being overblown and this team will win 11-13 games. I think there's a little bit of a hangover from the NFC championship game and they'll right themselves and start winning games, a lot of games.

I think it's overblown too but I don't see 10 to 12 more wins on this schedule. I think there's an outside shot of finishing with 11 wins if Mathieu, Deone, John Brown, Floyd, Jones and Palmer all play to expectations but that might be asking too much.
 

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seemed to start when we were dismantled by the seahags.... then after the game BA was telling a reporter, "we were not trying to win the game"...Fitz walking by gave him the strangest "WTF?" look....
The teams has never been the same since that game... maybe the players feel the staff betrayed them? By going in with a losing game plan and not telling them? Or by not really accepting responsibility for having your ass handed to you by a division rival?

this team has some serious issues right now and "It's all between the ears"... but whose ears?

yeah... they've never been the same since that game.

and I've never bought the "we weren't trying to win the game" thing. If that was the case, why in the world wouldn't you give your QB with a bum finger a week off... if that was even an issue at all.
 

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yeah... they've never been the same since that game.

and I've never bought the "we weren't trying to win the game" thing. If that was the case, why in the world wouldn't you give your QB with a bum finger a week off... if that was even an issue at all.

Yeah, we were trying to win, I really don't understand how someone can say otherwise. We might have given up a little at some point during that game but we started all the regulars and kept them out there quite awhile. And no way does this team and this coaching staff talk all that crap during the week if they weren't going to try and win. We just got our butts kicked. We didn't quite have Seattle's urgency but Palmer's finger and the loss of Matthieu really hurt us IMO.
 

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seemed to start when we were dismantled by the seahags.... then after the game BA was telling a reporter, "we were not trying to win the game"...Fitz walking by gave him the strangest "WTF?" look....
The teams has never been the same since that game... maybe the players feel the staff betrayed them? By going in with a losing game plan and not telling them? Or by not really accepting responsibility for having your ass handed to you by a division rival?

this team has some serious issues right now and "It's all between the ears"... but whose ears?
+1

Well put. The team hasn't looked the same since.
 

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