Am I the only one unimpressed with Skelton?

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Skelly did take a step backward last year. But I think we all need to just throw last year out of our mind. Someone or something screwed up the heads of our players. We need to give them all a mulligan and let our new coaches evaluate them and see what they can do under a new system and a positive atmosphere. I am willing to give all our qbs one more year, then decide how good or bad they are. If there is no improvement and positive things going on with them then, cut them all loose if necessary. In meantime strengthen the other weaknesses of our team.
 

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He shows accuracy, touch, coolness in the pocket and the biggest factor--he doesn't throw many int's. A qb that does not turn it over will will alot of games for you. Ask the Dallas fans.
Amazing what some thought of him back then.

Now he looks totally lost and can't read a defense for anything. And accuracy? Dirt balls and over throws a plenty.
 

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The "haha I was smart" bumps are always funny. But we seriously need three QBs this year not named Skelton or Lindley. Every QB that gets a roster spot has to be competent, or a high round (first or second) draft pick that will have an actual chance of being competent. We had no chance at winning games with Skelton or Lindley this year, that's why nobody drafted them in the quality rounds, the rounds that produce Superbowl and playoff QBs!!!
 

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The "haha I was smart" bumps are always funny. But we seriously need three QBs this year not named Skelton or Lindley. Every QB that gets a roster spot has to be competent, or a high round (first or second) draft pick that will have an actual chance of being competent. We had no chance at winning games with Skelton or Lindley this year, that's why nobody drafted them in the quality rounds, the rounds that produce Superbowl and playoff QBs!!!

Of course you mean to blithely ignore those less than "quality rounds" that Montana and Brady were drafted in or those FAs like Kurt Warner in favor of those "quality" rounds (1st & 2nd) that produced the gems of Mike Kruczek, David Woodley, John Beck, Browning Nagle, Patrick Ramsey, Brady Quinn, Tony Eason, Richard Todd, Kyle Boller, JP Losman, Rich Campbell, Joey Harrington, Jack Thompson, Kelly Stouffer, Jim Druckenmiller, Mike Phipps, Todd Blackledge, Akilli Smith, Andre Ware, Rick Mirer, Heath Schuler, Todd Marinovich, Art Schlicter, JaMarcus Russell, and Ryan Leaf

After all the hot air is said and done, there is no expert (paid or within their own lost minds) who can guarantee a SB winning QB. Its time to let BA and his staff do their training and evaluation of Skelton, Lindley, and Kolb. Your opinions will be validated if and when Skelton is released. If not, be prepared to eat crow and see if BA can really develop him into a decent backup or even a starter.

Looking back at the body of work by Whisenhunt, it is now easy to see there were a lot of smoke and mirrors done by Whisenhunt for the Cards success by hanging on to Warner's jockstrap. Once Warner left however, Whisenhunt, his petty games (Leinart, Lutui, Boldin, Wells, Heap, and DA for starters), and his lack of leadership and coaching management were exposed in his awful W-L records for all to see. Man, too bad the Cards did not see what the Steelers knew when they gladly passed on Whisenhunt (their primary in-house candidate) for their head coaching vacancy.

BTW, unless Kolb can really tune-up his long passing accuracy, my guess would be BA will not elect to run a hybrd long passing/west coast offense which means Kolb's days here are numbered. Remember, any success Kolb had in executing passing plays came when Whisenhunt finally relented and called only the WCO type passing plays for Kolb to run. I can see the Cards finding some trade value for Kolb with Andy Reid.

At very least, these next few months to after the OTAs will be full of developments.
 

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Of course you mean to blithely ignore those less than "quality rounds" that Montana and Brady were drafted in or those FAs like Kurt Warner in favor of those "quality" rounds (1st & 2nd) that produced the gems of Mike Kruczek, David Woodley, John Beck, Browning Nagle, Patrick Ramsey, Brady Quinn, Tony Eason, Richard Todd, Kyle Boller, JP Losman, Rich Campbell, Joey Harrington, Jack Thompson, Kelly Stouffer, Jim Druckenmiller, Mike Phipps, Todd Blackledge, Akilli Smith, Andre Ware, Rick Mirer, Heath Schuler, Todd Marinovich, Art Schlicter, JaMarcus Russell, and Ryan Leaf

After all the hot air is said and done, there is no expert (paid or within their own lost minds) who can guarantee a SB winning QB. Its time to let BA and his staff do their training and evaluation of Skelton, Lindley, and Kolb. Your opinions will be validated if and when Skelton is released. If not, be prepared to eat crow and see if BA can really develop him into a decent backup or even a starter.

Looking back at the body of work by Whisenhunt, it is now easy to see there were a lot of smoke and mirrors done by Whisenhunt for the Cards success by hanging on to Warner's jockstrap. Once Warner left however, Whisenhunt, his petty games (Leinart, Lutui, Boldin, Wells, Heap, and DA for starters), and his lack of leadership and coaching management were exposed in his awful W-L records for all to see. Man, too bad the Cards did not see what the Steelers knew when they gladly passed on Whisenhunt (their primary in-house candidate) for their head coaching vacancy.

BTW, unless Kolb can really tune-up his long passing accuracy, my guess would be BA will not elect to run a hybrd long passing/west coast offense which means Kolb's days here are numbered. Remember, any success Kolb had in executing passing plays came when Whisenhunt finally relented and called only the WCO type passing plays for Kolb to run. I can see the Cards finding some trade value for Kolb with Andy Reid.

At very least, these next few months to after the OTAs will be full of developments.
You wanna talk gems? When it comes to QBs I want to shop the jewelery stores, not the blow out sales, yard sales, barter blankets, and as Whiz even did once the (undrafted) free bin. That's great there has been a couple guys that have made it through the odds, it is by no means a reason to "check for survivors" late in the draft, or go by that philosaphy at all. Live by the quarterback and die by the quarterback was how Whiz rolled, he didn't have one but gameplanned like he did...did...I love using past tense words when talking about Whiz now!! :)

So yeah, it's first or second round QBs for me if I plan on being successful into the playoffs. Your list is nice, but look up the list of the last 15 or so superbowls and you will find more first rounders than anyhting when it comes to the QB position. That's what I'm talking about, odds and proof, learning from the past to benefit your future. Whiz never got it, he could've drafted his QBs higher and had a chance here. Could've had a servicable back-up to Kolb if he drafted his QBs higher, might've even still had a job if he had drafted QBs higher.

Skelton and Lindley will be long gone if Arians watches last year's tape on them, so they'll be long gone unless we keep one as a third string, "break only incase of emergency" type of deal. They aren't even worth the League minimum salaries they will be lucky to see (from some other team) in 2013-14.
 
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