Amare Stoudemire says that he won't dealt

[PDXChris]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35454877/ns/sports-player_news/

Amare Stoudemire said he had a talk with Suns owner Robert Sarver after Wednesday's game and said he won't be traded.

"I think I'm pretty much safe," Stoudemire said. "I feel good. But either way I was going to feel all right." This is far from a sure thing as Amare could still end up in Miami, but we'd make it a long shot at this point. Owners should be happy as Stoudemire's best numbers will come in Phoenix's up-tempo style.

 

[Sunburn]

sheesh. I feel like I'm on a rollercoaster ride I can't get off of.

 

[GYDevil]

Well, now we get to see if his recent play was him auditioning for a new team or if he is actually committed to winning basketball.

 

[AsUdUdE]

I'm pissed... watch STAT leave this offseason for nothing...

nice job F.O.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'm pissed... watch STAT leave this offseason for nothing...

nice job F.O.

Let's see if the Suns go at him hard to get an extension done. If they do and get it done then I would be OK with that.

However, like you, if Amare walks for nothing....this F.O. journey to the dark side will be complete.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Looks like we got lulled. I had a feeling this would happen....

 

[Mainstreet]

Let's see if the Suns go at him hard to get an extension done. If they do and get it done then I would be OK with that.

However, like you, if Amare walks for nothing....this F.O. journey to the dark side will be complete.

I agree, if Amare walks for nothing the the jouney to the dark side will be complete. I can't believe (actually I do) that Kerr could get nothing but expiring contracts for Shaq and not even a reasonable trade for Amare. And these players were All-Stars. One of Kerr's faults is that he takes forever to make a decision and then acts only with Sarver's blessings. Good GMs in the league have the authority to act quickly. I think the Suns FO must be a joke around the league.

 

[jagu]

As sad as it is that we couldn't get a good deal for him, I'm happy we didn't just get rid of him for some scrubs. If he walks he walks but it hurts less than seeing Kerr trade him for absolute waste.

 

[Ronin]

sheesh. I feel like I'm on a rollercoaster ride I can't get off of.

Anyone still have the pic of Amare and Mike D'antoni on that rollercoaster ride? Please post it.

 

[Mulli]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...LYF?slug=ap-suns-stoudemire&prov=ap&type=lgns

This article says Amar'e said his chances of getting traded are 50/50.

 

[Town Drunk]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...LYF?slug=ap-suns-stoudemire&prov=ap&type=lgns

This article says Amar'e said his chances of getting traded are 50/50.

That article quotes Amare before Wednesday's game. He spoke with Sarver after the game.

 

[devilalum]

AZ Republic

Asked if he expects to remain a Suns past 1 p.m., Stoudemire said, "I don't know. That's the tricky part. The unknown is always a mystery. I think all I do is enjoy my day off and see what happens."

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/74215

 

[DeAnna]

I'm pissed... watch STAT leave this offseason for nothing...

nice job F.O.

It's pretty much a given that he will opt out at the end of the season since they won't give him a max contract.

Geesh, he's had most of his real estate up for sale for over a year, so he's been planning for the future.

 

[Yuma]

They said in the Republic today he could still be signed and traded this summer, he could take his option, or we could still extend his contract. This is not over.

 

[JS22]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Kerr is actually a pretty decent GM. The problem is that he is essentially Sarver's PR Puppet. I really doubt he's making all of these moves by himself. The Suns have been in financial limbo and would have been better served just blowing it up to get under the cap and start over. Instead, they've been making minor financial moves here and there while trying to remain somewhat competitive. It's clearly not working.

When given the opportunity Kerr has made some pretty solid moves. He seems to be a great talent evaluator. Dragic, Lopez, Dudley, Amundson, and Frye. All very solid role players. Dragic and Lopez were written off by most fans last year and look at them now. Both are playing great.

If the Suns can't make a decent Amare trade, perhaps they should come to an agreement and extend him. I'm not the biggest Amare fan. I personally think he's going to go back to his 19/5 games now that the trade deadline hype is over. (Obviously I hope I'm wrong. Maybe he'll keep it up to increase his value for the offseason.) If he proves me wrong, I wouldn't be opposed to trying to blow it up around him.

I kinda feel bad for Kerr. If he doesn't trade Amare, the FO is a joke. If he trades Amare for crap, the FO is a joke. What does everyone expect? Teams aren't offering Lebron, Wade, or Kobe for Amare. Sorry.

 

[AfroSuns]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Kerr is actually a pretty decent GM. The problem is that he is essentially Sarver's PR Puppet. I really doubt he's making all of these moves by himself. The Suns have been in financial limbo and would have been better served just blowing it up to get under the cap and start over. Instead, they've been making minor financial moves here and there while trying to remain somewhat competitive. It's clearly not working.

When given the opportunity Kerr has made some pretty solid moves. He seems to be a great talent evaluator. Dragic, Lopez, Dudley, Amundson, and Frye. All very solid role players. Dragic and Lopez were written off by most fans last year and look at them now. Both are playing great.

If the Suns can't make a decent Amare trade, perhaps they should come to an agreement and extend him. I'm not the biggest Amare fan. I personally think he's going to go back to his 19/5 games now that the trade deadline hype is over. (Obviously I hope I'm wrong. Maybe he'll keep it up to increase his value for the offseason.) If he proves me wrong, I wouldn't be opposed to trying to blow it up around him.

I kinda feel bad for Kerr. If he doesn't trade Amare, the FO is a joke. If he trades Amare for crap, the FO is a joke. What does everyone expect? Teams aren't offering Lebron, Wade, or Kobe for Amare. Sorry.

+1

 

[Hat]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Kerr is actually a pretty decent GM. The problem is that he is essentially Sarver's PR Puppet. I really doubt he's making all of these moves by himself. The Suns have been in financial limbo and would have been better served just blowing it up to get under the cap and start over. Instead, they've been making minor financial moves here and there while trying to remain somewhat competitive. It's clearly not working.

When given the opportunity Kerr has made some pretty solid moves. He seems to be a great talent evaluator. Dragic, Lopez, Dudley, Amundson, and Frye. All very solid role players. Dragic and Lopez were written off by most fans last year and look at them now. Both are playing great.

If the Suns can't make a decent Amare trade, perhaps they should come to an agreement and extend him. I'm not the biggest Amare fan. I personally think he's going to go back to his 19/5 games now that the trade deadline hype is over. (Obviously I hope I'm wrong. Maybe he'll keep it up to increase his value for the offseason.) If he proves me wrong, I wouldn't be opposed to trying to blow it up around him.

I kinda feel bad for Kerr. If he doesn't trade Amare, the FO is a joke. If he trades Amare for crap, the FO is a joke. What does everyone expect? Teams aren't offering Lebron, Wade, or Kobe for Amare. Sorry.

This! I was actually going to post something similar to what you said after this whole Amare thing has blown over. It's evident Sarver is behind the Amare trade more than Kerr. Not much Kerr can do when you have the owner telling you to penny pinch, and fans screaming at you to either trade Amare for great picks, or keep him. Suns were getting garbage in return for Amare. Like you said, people would be pissed if you traded for freakin' Z and JJ Hickson, or be pissed if you didn't trade him. Damned if do, damned if you don't.

 

[Chaz]

I think the chances are greater than 50% that we have to endure the Amare trade talk again next season.

I really don't think Amare is going to walk away from 17+ Million to see what he could maybe get in a very crowded FA market this summer.

 

[JS22]

I've even defended Sarver a bit in the past. I don't particularly think he's cheap, as much as he's not a very smart owner. A cheap owner would not have been over the LT for this long. A cheap owner would have sold off assets with no intention to rebuild.

The problem with Sarver, as I said in my previous post, is that he is trying too hard to remain somewhat competitive while trying to lower salary salary here and there. You'll see one move that hurts the Suns financially, but potentially improves them. (Shaq) Followed by a salary dump to make up for it. He's probably terrified of blowing it up because attendance would drop. But really, it's the best thing IMO.

Blow it up. Come clean with the fans. And start to rebuild. In the long run, being a mediocre team that is constantly tip-toeing the LT limit is probably worse that going through a few years of 30-35 wins. Look at OKC. I would love for the Suns to be in that situation. Stockpile draft picks and make a run at young talent.

I think he's in too far over his head. Too worried about losing money and the fanbase. If that's the case, maybe he should sell to someone willing to take a few risks. This team is CLEARLY going nowhere fast. They have some nice pieces, so perhaps a rebuilding process wouldn't be too painful. Who knows.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I've even defended Sarver a bit in the past. I don't particularly think he's cheap, as much as he's not a very smart owner. A cheap owner would not have been over the LT for this long. A cheap owner would have sold off assets with no intention to rebuild.

The problem with Sarver, as I said in my previous post, is that he is trying too hard to remain somewhat competitive while trying to lower salary salary here and there. You'll see one move that hurts the Suns financially, but potentially improves them. (Shaq) Followed by a salary dump to make up for it. He's probably terrified of blowing it up because attendance would drop. But really, it's the best thing IMO.

Blow it up. Come clean with the fans. And start to rebuild. In the long run, being a mediocre team that is constantly tip-toeing the LT limit is probably worse that going through a few years of 30-35 wins. Look at OKC. I would love for the Suns to be in that situation. Stockpile draft picks and make a run at young talent.

I think he's in too far over his head. Too worried about losing money and the fanbase. If that's the case, maybe he should sell to someone willing to take a few risks. This team is CLEARLY going nowhere fast. They have some nice pieces, so perhaps a rebuilding process wouldn't be too painful. Who knows.

BINGO! you hit the nail right on the head as far as i'm concerned. but i'd add that not only is sarver in over his head, he's a buffoon to boot. a dooooooooooshbag. someone like him should never gotten involved with professional sports.

 

[devilalum]

BINGO! you hit the nail right on the head as far as i'm concerned. but i'd add that not only is sarver in over his head, he's a buffoon to boot. a dooooooooooshbag. someone like him should never gotten involved with professional sports.

I occurred to me recently that the Colangelos knew what a tool Sarver was before they sold him the team. I remember they had strong reservations about selling him the team but they got the cash they wanted and that was that.

As far as I'm concerned Jerry Colangelo flushed this franchise down the toilet when he sold it to Sarver. That should be his legacy.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I occurred to me recently that the Colangelos knew what a tool Sarver was before they sold him the team. I remember they had strong reservations about selling him the team but they got the cash they wanted and that was that.

As far as I'm concerned Jerry Colangelo flushed this franchise down the toilet when he sold it to Sarver. That should be his legacy.

ouch. i think that may be overly harsh on jerry. i mean, it's not like there are hundreds of potential owners lining up to purchase the team. there are only so many cubans, busses, and paul allens out there. i'm not sure a selling owner can be overly picky about getting a "good guy."

 

[elindholm]

You can't rebuild with no blue-chip young talent and no immediate prospects for acquiring blue-chip young talent. This is what most of this board doesn't understand. Everyone talks about the Thunder, but they got Green at #5, Durant at #2, and Westbrook at #4. Look at other successful rebuilds and you'll see the same thing: Portland got Aldridge at #2 (in a trade when they held the #4 pick), Roy at #6 (in a trade with #7), and of course Oden at #1. Chicago, same story.

The Suns have two players on their roster under the age of 30 (!!!) who were taken in the top ten of the draft. Those players are Amar'e Stoudemire and Jason Richardson, the same guys fans want to get rid of. Everyone else on the roster who is even remotely "young" was taken in the teens or later.

Trading Stoudemire for a "top-ten draft" talent or two would have been great, but those offers weren't out there. So the earliest that the Suns could possibly have even a SINGLE top-ten talent is the summer of 2011, and that's only if they really suck next year.

You can't rebuild around poor talent. It just won't work.

 

[devilalum]

ouch. i think that may be overly harsh on jerry. i mean, it's not like there are hundreds of potential owners lining up to purchase the team. there are only so many cubans, busses, and paul allens out there. i'm not sure a selling owner can be overly picky about getting a "good guy."

All I'm sayin is he knew exactly what he was doing. That's why they had the whole transition period etc... He got the number he wanted and moved on.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You can't rebuild with no blue-chip young talent and no immediate prospects for acquiring blue-chip young talent. This is what most of this board doesn't understand. Everyone talks about the Thunder, but they got Green at #5, Durant at #2, and Westbrook at #4. Look at other successful rebuilds and you'll see the same thing: Portland got Aldridge at #2 (in a trade when they held the #4 pick), Roy at #6 (in a trade with #7), and of course Oden at #1. Chicago, same story.

The Suns have one player on their roster under the age of 30 (!!!) who was taken in the top ten of the draft. That player is Amar'e Stoudemire. Everyone else who is even remotely "young" was taken in the teens or later.

Trading Stoudemire for a "top-ten draft" talent or two would have been great, but those offers weren't out there. So the earliest that the Suns could possibly have even a SINGLE top-ten talent is the summer of 2011, and that's only if they really suck next year.

You can't rebuild around poor talent. It just won't work.

precisely. it's why i wouldn't be angered if we traded amare for mid-round draft picks IF we traded nash for something as well. 'cuz then we'd stink in 2011 and we could hopefully get that stud to pair with all our young role players. likely even stink again in 2012 to get the second stud. how else do you get the roys, durants, duncans, shaqs, olajawon's?