Amare to Have Arthroscop Surgery

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does anyone remember how mediocre we looked when... ugh, if he's out for even like the first month of the season, or struggling (lkike Kobe did for the first month last year), this team is gonna be hurting seeding wise, which means going through SA and Dallas and basically being screwed.

Good thing we saved 8 million dollars though. F'n weak.

That's exactly right, the suns will say things like oh yeah he'll be 100% in 14 days, other than Sarver money clip sniffers who buy into everything sarver and company spins, who really believes Amare won't be a mess for at least the first 40 games?
 

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Can u say ANDERSON VAREJAO?

Sarver should hit the phones (or text) and try to get a hold of this guy NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS!

Suns do have a trade exemption. Forget Luxury Tax. This is an emergency.
 

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That's exactly right, the suns will say things like oh yeah he'll be 100% in 14 days, other than Sarver money clip sniffers who buy into everything sarver and company spins, who really believes Amare won't be a mess for at least the first 40 games?

and I wonder if they try to rush him back, considering that, well, you know, our tallest player getting significant minutes with be 6 Freaking 8.

But at least the most profitable franchise in the NBA the past two years saved some money and hurt their future at the same time! Yeah.
 

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I am surprised the board hasn't blow up yet.....I guess everyone is too busy talking about Matt Leinart's hair.
 

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The more I think about this the more I worry about this. Doesn't this seem a lot similar to what happened with Amare 2 years ago. They take the MRI and determine that he needs an exploratory surgery only to find out when they got in there that it was much worse then they thought and had to perform microfracture surgery.

I think you're not remembering correctly. In oct 2005 amare had been complaining for weeks about his left knee bothering him and they said before the surgery they couldn't determine exactly what it was until they opened him up.

Now the suns were pushing before the surgery that it probably wouldn't be anything to worry about and he'll be back in a month, but I do remember that the details were much more vague about what they would find when opening him up.

The details here seem to be much more clear. Does that mean we won't see tomorrow he had another microfracture, no, in fact it wouldn't surprise me at all. But it does seem much more positive this time than going into the first surgery and it also seems a lot more like the same surgery he had on that right knee when he shut it down two years ago. Which wasn't a surgery for a serious problem.
 

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I stand corrected, I just read Coro again and he says:

"been swelling in Stoudemire's right knee recently, prompting him to undergo a magnetic resonance imaging exam on Sunday. There is an expectation that it will be a simple procedure to remove a "loose body" and that he would only miss two to three weeks but a scope can also reveal more than a MRI does"

That last part is exactly the vagueness I was talking about two years ago. Damn, I fully expect something big now.

At least unlike '05 we have something else to follow in the D-backs and cards now
 
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Man I hope Amare is ok and wont miss anytime we need him 100 percent healthy this year to have a chance at beating the spurs in the playoffs because odds are Hill wont last the entire season
 

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Funny that Amare and the coaches were pimping the team like crazy, and just a few hours later, this news breaks.

Either this really isn't a big deal, or they're great actors.
 

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I worry about Amare as much as anyone but I believe Diaw will rise to the occasion. IMO, he is a high post center and he should flourish if the Suns play him as such. When he played center for the Suns (when Amare was out) he had his best year. If Amare is not out too long this may be a blessing in disguise because the Suns may be forced to add another big which I still think they need. Then if Amare returns after a short time, the Suns will be all the better.
 

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It was inevitable that he was going to have more surgery. That was announced in the turmoil that followed the first microfracture.

Why they didnt do the MRI before the freakin FIBA games is beyond my comprehension. Even if it wasnt bothering him, after the postseason he should have been strapped to that MRI machine.
 

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I worry about Amare as much as anyone but I believe Diaw will rise to the occasion. IMO, he is a high post center and he should flourish if the Suns play him as such. When he played center for the Suns (when Amare was out) he had his best year. If Amare is not out too long this may be a blessing in disguise because the Suns may be forced to add another big which I still think they need. Then if Amare returns after a short time, the Suns will be all the better.

I'm not sure I'd call it a blessing, but I agree that's where Boris needs to play. He's vastly more effective with the ball in his hands than as an off the ball catch and shoot guy.
 

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It was inevitable that he was going to have more surgery. That was announced in the turmoil that followed the first microfracture.

Why they didnt do the MRI before the freakin FIBA games is beyond my comprehension. Even if it wasnt bothering him, after the postseason he should have been strapped to that MRI machine.

The timing of this surgery is very questionable. Who knew what... when. Why is the surgery announced on media day. It's all too much coincidence.
 

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Or neither. There wasn't a big deal made about it 2 years ago when they were just trying to see what was wrong and ended up doing the micro-fracture.

I'd feel alot better if they told use what they were going after.
 

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The timing of this surgery is very questionable. Who knew what... when. Why is the surgery announced on media day. It's all too much coincidence.

Is it? I did not see any evidence of him limping during the FIBA Americas, so I don't think this is something he's been hiding something. My guess is that last week he started practicing hard due to most of the guys being back and he felt something. With his history, he's not going to take chances so he had them look at it.

My guess is that mid season he'd just play through it. But it he's going to lose some time, better now than in two months.
 

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It was inevitable that he was going to have more surgery. That was announced in the turmoil that followed the first microfracture.

Why they didnt do the MRI before the freakin FIBA games is beyond my comprehension. Even if it wasnt bothering him, after the postseason he should have been strapped to that MRI machine.

But this isn't even that knee, there is more to come yet. By then, we'll probably come to expect a new knee surgery every 18 months.
 

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Is it? I did not see any evidence of him limping during the FIBA Americas, so I don't think this is something he's been hiding something. My guess is that last week he started practicing hard due to most of the guys being back and he felt something. With his history, he's not going to take chances so he had them look at it.

My guess is that mid season he'd just play through it. But it he's going to lose some time, better now than in two months.

The only reason I'm questioning the timing is because I believe Amare's first surgery occurred under similar circumstances. I can't remember exactly. Maybe someone else can. Anyway, I would prefer if Amare stayed out of these FIBA games and all the practice that goes with it. I would prefer he took a stance like Marion did on this issue.
 

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But this isn't even that knee, there is more to come yet. By then, we'll probably come to expect a new knee surgery every 18 months.

oh man, I REALLY hope we're not looking at K-Mart part Deux.
 

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I am speechless. Can nothing ever go right? I mean, really. I guess now we wait. Again. For the news that can make or break our season. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
 

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Holy crap!! I feel absolutely sick to my stomach. I came home and flipped on ESPNEWS and saw this as the breaking news in the bottom right hand corner.

Why does he have to play in the FIBA games? For as hard as it was for him to come back, you'd think that he'd be more cautious about getting the proper rest. You'd think he'd always be having his knees checked out.

Why does this always happen the first day of camp? I friggin pray that this is as minor as they are saying, but after the first experience, I don't trust a thing anymore.
 

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The doctors are expecting a full recovery in TWO-TO-THREE WEEKS!? I don't pretend to be a doctor, and despite the fact that I have been better at predicting recovery times than the Suns doctors in the past, I might still be inclined to give them the benefit-of-the-doubt based on their 30 years of medical experience and my zero minutes as such.

However, I am wondering what they base this prognosis on? Was there a quote in any of the articles that said something like: "The Suns doctor said that the surgery is very minor, and as such, he predicts that Amare will have the fastest recovery of any professional basketball player ever."

Has anyone ever recovered from knee surgery in 2 weeks? Again, I've never had surgery, but I have stubbed my toe on one or two chairs going to the bathroom at night, and it usually takes about 2 weeks to heal up completely. So how do they cut into his knee and expect it to heal perfectly and fully - and I'm hoping they want his knee to do just that - in two weeks?

Does anybody here watch the show "Heroes"? In the show, there's a character named Claire Bennett who has a superpower where she can heal almost instantaneously after she breaks bones, gets huge cuts, falls from a tall building, etc. Maybe the Suns doctors have just been watching that show a lot lately and forgot how long it takes for normal people to heal? That's the best explanation I can think of.
 
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I couldn't help but think if this would make a Marion trade more likely or less likely. Right now I believe trading Marion is less likely because the Suns will need him more than ever and the spotlight will shine brightly on him. However, this does not answer the lingering question mark about an extension which IMO the Suns will not give... at least for the money he wants.
 

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