Amundson expected to sign elsewhere this week.

[SactownSunsFan]

I think it's extremely unlikely that we'll see a trade that improves the Suns this season. The only thing resembling a trade chip is Warrick, and he's just not going to bring that much value. Besides, he's probably the closest thing to a PF the Suns have.

Richardson's expiring contract isn't a good trade chip?

 

[Yuma]

If we get Kwame Brown, play the regular season without him, and only play him a couple weeks before play offs to get him ready for when we REALLY need him. Otherwise the Suns will play him 40+ minutes a game and he'll be a gimp by the play offs.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If we get Kwame Brown, play the regular season without him, and only play him a couple weeks before play offs to get him ready for when we REALLY need him. Otherwise the Suns will play him 40+ minutes a game and he'll be a gimp by the play offs.

No way he gets more than scrub minutes, IMO. Unless he's had hand transplants he would just bring the offense to a grinding halt. You can't play down low with Nash as your PG if you can't catch a pass in traffic. I guess we could completely retool the offense but that makes little sense given that the rest of the roster is more suited for SSOL.

Steve

 

[Yuma]

No way he gets more than scrub minutes, IMO. Unless he's had hand transplants he would just bring the offense to a grinding halt. You can't play down low with Nash as your PG if you can't catch a pass in traffic. I guess we could completely retool the offense but that makes little sense given that the rest of the roster is more suited for SSOL.

Steve

I agree on the offensive side of his game. I was hoping he could give us some blocks, boards, and 6 hard fouls. All the Suns need is a center who can average 10 points 10 boards and 2-3 blocks and we would be real contenders. We just can't ever seem to get a guy who can do that over multiple seasons for us.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I agree on the offensive side of his game. I was hoping he could give us some blocks, boards, and 6 hard fouls. All the Suns need is a center who can average 10 points 10 boards and 2-3 blocks and we would be real contenders. We just can't ever seem to get a guy who can do that over multiple seasons for us.

If we had a true power forward I'd be pretty confident that we already have that center on the roster (Lopez). It remains to be seen what he can do without an actual PF playing alongside him but there's at least a small hope on the horizon with Lawal.

Steve

 

[Superbone]

Nothing to worry about, guys. The Bobcats already signed Brown.

 

[elindholm]

Richardson's expiring contract isn't a good trade chip?

Not really. An expiring contract by itself brings only a package that the other team wants to get rid of. The true value of expiring contracts is to make salaries add up when combined with young talent or draft picks.

 

[Chaplin]

Not really. An expiring contract by itself brings only a package that the other team wants to get rid of. The true value of expiring contracts is to make salaries add up when combined with young talent or draft picks.

You have to admit though that JRich is an intriguing expiring simply because he's still a good player. A lot of expirings that teams dangle are for over-the-hill, not-worth-the-money players. JRich certainly doesn't fit that description.

 

[elindholm]

You have to admit though that JRich is an intriguing expiring simply because he's still a good player.

True, but it still seems unlikely than any team is going to give up much value for the privilege of renting him a few months. The contenders are already set at SG, except I guess Orlando, but they have nothing anyone would want.

 

[Irish]

True, but it still seems unlikely than any team is going to give up much value for the privilege of renting him a few months. The contenders are already set at SG, except I guess Orlando, but they have nothing anyone would want.

I get the feeling that a lot of Sun's fans don't "get" expiring contracts. It is really rare for teams to go after a guy with an expiring contract who expects to get value from him. J-Rich MIGHT be attractive to someone who figures they would like to sign him next year at a lower price; but it seems unlikely they would offer much for the privilage.

IMHO opinion, J-Rich is too good to give up just for guys with bad contracts. I think he will be worth more in cap space than anything they can get right now. Maybe at the trade deadline, if the Suns are out of it; but I really doubt it.

 

[Rab]

You can't tell me expiring contracts aren't valuable. The Lakers are a potential dynasty now because of the expiring contract of Kwame Brown. Not that players who fit the system like Pau does in LA come every year, but with the financial issues teams are facing right now, an expiring contract could generate a pretty good player.

 

[Sunburn]

You can't tell me expiring contracts aren't valuable. The Lakers are a potential dynasty now because of the expiring contract of Kwame Brown. Not that players who fit the system like Pau does in LA come every year, but with the financial issues teams are facing right now, an expiring contract could generate a pretty good player.

This. We've seen countless examples of teams acquiring excellent players in exchange for little more than expiring contracts. Happens every year. Now, if that expiring contract is also a talented player himself, well, then, you have quite a prize trade-piece.

 

[Irish]

Thats a great plan. Let's have somebody make a really stupid deal with the Suns just to get an expiring contract. Now all we have to do is find somebody so stupid as the Griz.

How has this worked for Memphis?

The experience of teams trading super stars for "stuff" is not all that good. I can see making a deal when a star is likely leave soon or if he is terribly unhappy at his old team; but that doesn't mean it actually works.

The only time it seems to work is in the Nance deal when the Suns got KJ. What we miss is that the Cavs had Mark Price, so Nance was more valuable to them and KJ still an unknown.

Look at most of the other deals. Payton for Allen, was a blunder orchestated George Karl at the Bucks. Allen wasn't yet the big deal he became and Payton was well past his prime. Mostly trading super stars before you have to is a mistake such as Garnett to the Celtics, Barkley to the Suns, etc.

So there are supid GM's making a bad deals, but the Suns can't count on being able to make a one sided deal.

 

[elindholm]

You can't tell me expiring contracts aren't valuable. The Lakers are a potential dynasty now because of the expiring contract of Kwame Brown.

No, it was because they could combine Brown with young talent that intrigued the Grizzlies. Brown alone would never have gotten the deal done.

And people really need to stop bring up the Gasol trade as an example with broad application. I doubt you'll ever see a trade that lopsided again. The circumstances were utterly bizarre, and no one other than the Lakers could have benefitted from such a steal.

 

[elindholm]

We've seen countless examples of teams acquiring excellent players in exchange for little more than expiring contracts. Happens every year.

That simply isn't true. I challenge you to provide a single example since the Gasol anomaly, or five years prior, for that matter.

 

[Griffin]

Amundson signs with Warriors for two years, $4.7 million.

That to me seems like a very reasonable amount. I though that Lou was worth about $2M -$2.5M per, and that's exactly what he got. Many have said that he'd get a lot more, but at this amount, shouldn't the Suns have tried to keep him?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Amundson signs with Warriors for two years, $4.7 million.

That to me seems like a very reasonable amount. I though that Lou was worth about $2M -$2.5M per, and that's exactly what he got. Many have said that he'd get a lot more, but at this amount, shouldn't the Suns have tried to keep him?

I would have kept him at that price. However, we'll never know what his agent was demanding from the Suns.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

Amundson signs with Warriors for two years, $4.7 million.

That to me seems like a very reasonable amount. I though that Lou was worth about $2M -$2.5M per, and that's exactly what he got. Many have said that he'd get a lot more, but at this amount, shouldn't the Suns have tried to keep him?

It's pretty clear that he was waiting to get more money--I'm guessing that the Warriors offered the most, but was probably a million or two away from what he was looking for. He just took the best available.

 

[dodie53]

bye Lou.
wish you luck,
but not against the suns

 

[Mainstreet]

Amundson has a player option for the second year. Interesting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5569089

 

[sunsfan88]

Louis Amundson just made NBA history!

The New York Knicks, by signing Louis Amundson to a 10-day contract Saturday, have just expanded the NBA’s all-time 10-team club to an even dozen.

Amundson was promptly waived by the Knicks earlier this week after they acquired him from Cleveland as part of the three-team swap with Memphis and Oklahoma City headlined by J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert and Dion Waiters. But by resigning him, New York has given Amundson the opportunity to join the following exclusive list

Below are the only 12 players in league history to have played for at least 10 different teams:

12 teams: Chucky Brown, Jim Jackson, Tony Massenburg and Joe Smith.

11 teams: Mike James and Kevin Ollie.

10 teams: Lou Amundson, Earl Boykins, Mark Bryant, Drew Gooden, Damon Jones and Aaron Williams.

Of those, only Amundson and Washington’s Drew Gooden are active, although veteran guard Mike James is on the hunt for potentially his 12th different NBA employer if he can land a D-League call-up. James, 39, is currently playing for the Texas Legends in the D-League.

Amundson is still only 32 years old, which means he theoretically has plenty of time to add to his total of teams and potentially become the NBA’s first 13-team player. But he’s not the youngest player to get to 10 teams. That would be current Cleveland Cavaliers assistant coach Damon Jones, who was just 29 when he hit the 10-team mark before spending the next three seasons in Cleveland and then returning to Milwaukee to finish his career.

Amundson’s 359 career regular-season games, though, are by far the fewest of anyone on the list. His longest stay in one spot in terms of games played was Phoenix, where he played 155 games over two full seasons. His travels around the league include a two-minute stint in Utah, three minutes with the Bulls spread over two stops and his 12-game cameo with the Cavs this season. Those travels technically do not include the Sacramento Kings, who were the first NBA team to sign him out of UNLV but let Amundson go before the start of the ’06-07 regular season.

The full list of teams Amundson has played for: Chicago, Cleveland, Golden State, Indiana, Minnesota, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Utah.

Golden State’s Shaun Livingston, meanwhile, is the only other active player who has played for at least nine franchises. He’s in the first year of a three-year deal with the Warriors, so don’t expect the 10-team club to grow again anytime soon.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3464/nbas-all-time-10-team-club

Very proud of Lou for hanging in there and still doing it in this league. An unselfish player who plays with a ton of heart and effort every single night. I wish some of our guys had that type of desire to go with their talent.