amusing statistic

[elindholm]

For many of you, "amusing statistic" is a contradiction in terms, so you might want to skip this post.

For the rest of you, I was just looking over the Suns' stats last year. For the season, Casey Jacobsen took 360 shots from the field -- 180 from two-point range and 180 from three-point range. And he made exactly the same number, 75, from each distance. (That's .417, if anyone cares.) Talk about consistency!

 

[F-Dog]

For many of you, "amusing statistic" is a contradiction in terms, so you might want to skip this post.

For the rest of you, I was just looking over the Suns' stats last year. For the season, Casey Jacobsen took 360 shots from the field -- 180 from two-point range and 180 from three-point range. And he made exactly the same number, 75, from each distance. (That's .417, if anyone cares.) Talk about consistency!

Why the hell was Casey taking so many twos, is what I want to know.

 

[hafey2]

.417 from behind the arc was good for 8th in the league i beleive

 

[slinslin]

Nash and Barbosa are in the top 5 all time Suns 3pt% shooters.

If we get Wes Person we will have 3 of our 5 all-time leaders. With Casey having a chance to crack the top 5.

That would give us 4 guys who were in the top 20 in 3pt% last season.

#9 Casey
#11 Nash
#16 Person
#18 Barbosa

I think Peeler #1, Hoiberg #4, Cardinal #3 and Turkoglu #8 are also FAs.

 

[scotsman13]

one thing you can say about this team next year is that we wont see many zones. this group will end them up.

personally i think that you are going to see less of CJ and more of barbs. from everything we are hearing is that he is doing great in adding new skills (like a mid-range game) and running and controling an offense. with his 6'10" wingspan and added weight he should be able to guard a lot of 2's in the nba and will be able to match up with the quicker points that nash may not be able to keep up with.

 

[George O'Brien]

one thing you can say about this team next year is that we wont see many zones. this group will end them up.

personally i think that you are going to see less of CJ and more of barbs. from everything we are hearing is that he is doing great in adding new skills (like a mid-range game) and running and controling an offense. with his 6'10" wingspan and added weight he should be able to guard a lot of 2's in the nba and will be able to match up with the quicker points that nash may not be able to keep up with.

Casey was much better shooting three's because he was generally open, but his scoring went way down once he show little mid range game. If he develops a mid range game to go with his outside shooting and drives to the basket, he could be productive. Otherwise, he will not see very many minutes.

 

[Joe Mama]

Casey was much better shooting three's because he was generally open, but his scoring went way down once he show little mid range game. If he develops a mid range game to go with his outside shooting and drives to the basket, he could be productive. Otherwise, he will not see very many minutes.

right, one of the reasons Casey's shooting percentage is still high is that he only takes the shot if he's open by a mile. He's learning to get that shot off more quickly, but he's still got to get better.

Joe Mama

 

[Gaddabout]

If anyone remembers Jeff Hornacek when he arrived from Iowa State, he was a point guard who couldn't shoot, create his own shot or play much defense. In three years he learned how to:

- Shoot, with amazing accuracy and consistency
- Create his own shot by creating space off the dribble and finding multiple ways to get his shot off
- Play defense by using angles and knowing who he could trust for help down low (driving a player into Mark West or Antonio Lang became an acceptable alternative)

Casey needs to go back and look at film of Horny ... he's also bigger and slightly more athletic than Jeff.

 

[Chaplin]

Casey was much better shooting three's because he was generally open, but his scoring went way down once he show little mid range game. If he develops a mid range game to go with his outside shooting and drives to the basket, he could be productive. Otherwise, he will not see very many minutes.

Call me crazy, but there seemed to be a transformation when Casey got into 2-point range. Instead of being a shooter waiting for the ball, he became a pseudo-playmaker. There were many, many times that a lot of us were surprised at how aggressive he was when driving to the basket. That's why I think CJ gets a raw deal on this board and elsewhere. He's more multi-dimensional than people think, and it's just a matter of utilizing that skill.

 

[George O'Brien]

Call me crazy, but there seemed to be a transformation when Casey got into 2-point range. Instead of being a shooter waiting for the ball, he became a pseudo-playmaker. There were many, many times that a lot of us were surprised at how aggressive he was when driving to the basket. That's why I think CJ gets a raw deal on this board and elsewhere. He's more multi-dimensional than people think, and it's just a matter of utilizing that skill.

I agree. He couldn't shoot at all his rookie year and really worked on his three point shooting last summer and it paid off. I'm guessing that he is working on developing a pull up jumper and perhaps a runner. Hopefully he will also learn to take the extra dribble on his drives to the basket and not commit so early and get charge calls so much. I don't think these are exceptionally hard for him to develop, but we haven't see it so far.

If memory serves me, Steve Kerr was cut following his rookie season.

 

[sunsfn]

If anyone remembers Jeff Hornacek when he arrived from Iowa State, he was a point guard who couldn't shoot, create his own shot or play much defense. In three years he learned how to:

- Shoot, with amazing accuracy and consistency
- Create his own shot by creating space off the dribble and finding multiple ways to get his shot off
- Play defense by using angles and knowing who he could trust for help down low (driving a player into Mark West or Antonio Lang became an acceptable alternative)

Casey needs to go back and look at film of Horny ... he's also bigger and slightly more athletic than Jeff.

Jeff Hornaceks dad (a high school coach) is a personal friend of Jerry Colangelo. The suns drafted him because of that, although they knew he had a chance to be a good player, there was a good chance he would not have been drafted by anyone else. It was a tough decision to trade him.

Jerry Colangelo also noticed that Jeff Hornacek was shooting the ball very wrong. He changed his way of holding the ball and actually taped some fingers together to make sure he held it right.

Jeff Hornacek really knew how to play basketball because of his dad, and with lots of hard work turned himself into a great NBA player.

 

[sunsfn]

Call me crazy, but there seemed to be a transformation when Casey got into 2-point range. Instead of being a shooter waiting for the ball, he became a pseudo-playmaker. There were many, many times that a lot of us were surprised at how aggressive he was when driving to the basket. That's why I think CJ gets a raw deal on this board and elsewhere. He's more multi-dimensional than people think, and it's just a matter of utilizing that skill.

I agree with you crazy Chaplin....

CJ has a lot of basketball intelligence and he will always get playing time because of that.
The thing he had to get used to was the speed of the NBA, and the way the suns changed his shooting style.
This is his third year coming up and he will be much improved again. His shooting % will go up and he will take more 3-point shots. The suns want him to come off the bench and shoot. He has always been a shooter and he will do more this year than the last 2 years.

 

[George O'Brien]

One other thing about Casey, he only makes $1.082 million this season. I can't see him going anywhere unless a trading partner is really hot to get him (doubtful). Since Nash is strictly a PG, Casey is the only SG on the roster.

That being said, I really hope he Casey can become more productive. The Suns aren't going anywhere if they have to keep playing JJ 40+ minutes.

 

[Joe Mama]

The part of Casey's game that has probably impressed me the most is his defense. Now don't get me wrong. He is not a great defender. He is, however, a whole lot better than most of us expected he would be.

Joe