An open letter to Grant Hill

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Grant, a couple of months ago we read that you put in a bid to purchase the Atlanta Hawks.

Why not the Suns? Make an offer to Robert Sarver so he can relieve himself of the misery he has created in Phoenix with his sideshow of two sets of brothers, three lead Point Guards, etc., and move back to Tucson.

Then come in and clean house of Lon Babby, Ryan McDonough and Jeff Hornacek. The sooner the Suns reestablish themselves as a professional basketball club, the better.

The gimmicks haven't worked. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets. The players and fans are reacting.

Grant, it would be a pleasure to see you heading up the Suns return to a proud, successful franchise.
 
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Would love Grant Hill here. High class player and person. And he seems plenty knowledgeable about basketball as well on both NBA TV and TNT when he's on.

He's made a ton of money in his career too. Doesn't seem like one that's stupid enough to have blown half of it already.

I don't think Grant has enough to be a majority owner but I would love for him to be an owner/involved in the organization in the same way that Shaq is with the Kings or the way Magic Johnson is with the Dodgers.
 

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Grant, a couple of months ago we read that you put in a bid to purchase the Atlanta Hawks.

Why not the Suns? Make an offer to Robert Sarver so he can relieve himself of the misery he has created in Phoenix with his sideshow of two sets of brothers, three lead Point Guards, etc., and move back to Tucson.

Then come in and clean house of Lon Babby, Ryan McDonough and Jeff Hornacek. The sooner the Suns reestablish themselves as a professional basketball club, the better.

The gimmicks haven't worked. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets. The players and fans are reacting.

Grant, it would be a pleasure to see you heading up the Suns return to a proud, successful franchise.

Wait. You like Colangelo now? When JC was owner, you said often that the Suns would not win a championship until the ownership changed.
 

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Lol Hill's net worth can't be more than $150 million, no way he could have enough to buy the team. What do expect the Suns ownership to do?

Funny how fans play "2k GMs" and think they can do better. Phx is a small market with a poor economy. The CBA has changed the way owners obtain and retain talent. Jerry would never be able to build a team with today's CBA.
 

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I don't see any reason Colangelo would be less able to build a team now compared to before. The rules have become more owner friendly and he was a very good and well respected owner.
 
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Wait. You like Colangelo now? When JC was owner, you said often that the Suns would not win a championship until the ownership changed.
1 - Moving my family to Phoenix 37 years ago was a labor of love. I love the Valley and everything associated with it, including the Phoenix Suns.

2 - I have often said that Jerry was an excellent marketing man for the Valley, the Suns and ultimately the D-backs. I just didn't think that he had the skill as a basketball GM/owner to take the Suns to the promised land. And he didn't. I also didn't like his obsession with small ball, which lingers to this day.

3 - My open letter (the subject of this thread) isn't to Jerry Colangelo. It is to Grant Hill. I know that Bryan was part of the group to buy the Hawks. But the Phoenix Son was no better a GM than his dad. My hopes would rest with Grant Hill being able to lead the Suns to post-season strength. He knows scoring, he knows defense and he knows about playing his strongest and most effective position.

4 - It is going to take years to rid the Suns of their dysfunctional roster. It has already begun, but is just as dysfunctional. Jeff was quoted as saying they are going to keep trying until they get it right. We need a better philosophy than that. And we need it in a Managing General Partner. Which is why I would love to see Grant Hill replace Sarver in that role.
 

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Wait. You like Colangelo now? When JC was owner, you said often that the Suns would not win a championship until the ownership changed.

It amazes me how you guys can remember who said what on ASFN, YEARS AGO!

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1 - Moving my family to Phoenix 37 years ago was a labor of love. I love the Valley and everything associated with it, including the Phoenix Suns.

2 - I have often said that Jerry was an excellent marketing man for the Valley, the Suns and ultimately the D-backs. I just didn't think that he had the skill as a basketball GM/owner to take the Suns to the promised land. And he didn't. I also didn't like his obsession with small ball, which lingers to this day.

3 - My open letter (the subject of this thread) isn't to Jerry Colangelo. It is to Grant Hill. I know that Bryan was part of the group to buy the Hawks. But the Phoenix Son was no better a GM than his dad. My hopes would rest with Grant Hill being able to lead the Suns to post-season strength. He knows scoring, he knows defense and he knows about playing his strongest and most effective position.

4 - It is going to take years to rid the Suns of their dysfunctional roster. It has already begun, but is just as dysfunctional. Jeff was quoted as saying they are going to keep trying until they get it right. We need a better philosophy than that. And we need it in a Managing General Partner. Which is why I would love to see Grant Hill replace Sarver in that role.

I was referring to this quote "Grant, it would be a pleasure to see you heading up the Suns return to a proud, successful franchise." I assumed that the "proud, successful franchise" to which you would like to return was JC's franchise, which, at the time, about which you rarely spoke positively.
 
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Lol Hill's net worth can't be more than $150 million, no way he could have enough to buy the team. What do expect the Suns ownership to do?

Funny how fans play "2k GMs" and think they can do better. Phx is a small market with a poor economy. The CBA has changed the way owners obtain and retain talent. Jerry would never be able to build a team with today's CBA.


This might be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Small market? We are exponentially bigger than say Golden State and OKC.

Simple Jack could run a team better than Sarver and his clowns. I for one was fooled into thinking that he had turned the corner but the teams behavior this week and especially tonight proves he is the same idiot with more idiots running the show as he has always been. This organization will never turn around until he is gone.
 
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I was referring to this quote "Grant, it would be a pleasure to see you heading up the Suns return to a proud, successful franchise." I assumed that the "proud, successful franchise" to which you would like to return was JC's franchise, which, at the time, about which you rarely spoke positively.
The key word, JC, is that Jerry ran a successful 'franchise'. A successful business, which wasn't that difficult when, for decades, it was the only (pro) game in town.

But he did not lay the foundation for a strong basketball team ready to compete with any team in the NBA. Two finals appearances in 40+ years, and one of them a Cinderella season.

As a business, it was a proud, successful franchise. From a technical perspective, it was based on weakness and gimmicks, which persist to this day.

I would love to see the Suns embraced by its fans once again. But it is certainly not the only game in town. Somewhere along the way, the Suns are going to have to realize that 3-Point Guard lineups and a 210 lb. backup Center/Power Forward are not going to restore pride in the fans or success whenever we next reach the playoffs.
 

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The Suns were never considered a major market until we had all 4 major sports in town. Considering how many wins they racked up, the finals appearances, being able to land major free agents and pull of trades like the Barkley one....have to completely disagree wit you BC. He also managed to repair the image of the franchise from a major scandal.

I would be all four Grant Hill putting together a investment team to buy this franchise but I think you seriously downplay JC contribution to this franchise by saying he was merely interested in business.
 

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This might be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Small market? We are exponentially bigger than say Golden State and OKC.

Simple Jack could run a team better than Sarver and his clowns. I for one was fooled into thinking that he had turned the corner but the teams behavior this week and especially tonight proves he is the same idiot with more idiots running the show as he has always been. This organization will never turn around until he is gone.

Then maybe you should learn more about the business of basketball and make an educated comment.

Well OKC built through the draft and multiple top picks. Which started with the dumping of talent to make the move from Seattle. How can you even compare.

Golden State is not a small market team. I hope you remember also it was Sarver that had a deal for Curry, but GS pulled out.

OK how about you go back when Sarver took over the team and tell me what you have done different.

The Nash era was during Sarver or does that time not count? After the Nash trade was done it has been bad, but not sure people understand there are bad times in every team. This team has YOUNG talent that still is learning how to play.
 
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The Nash era was during Sarver or does that time not count? After the Nash trade was done it has been bad, but not sure people understand there are bad times in every team. This team has YOUNG talent that still is learning how to play.

Unfortunately it doesn't. That era started under Jerry. JC and his FO made the moves that built that team or put them in a position to continue to retool. JC continued to be part of the FO immediately after the sale.
 

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Unfortunately it doesn't. That era started under Jerry. JC and his FO made the moves that built that team or put them in a position to continue to retool. JC continued to be part of the FO immediately after the sale.


Nash was signed in 04-05 season, Sarver bought the team in 04-05. He could have done what other new owners do and say gut it and start over. I didn't say he built the team.

How soon people forget the Blanks era, that was crappy teams & horrible coaches. McD has only had a few tries and like his draft picks and trades so far. The IT signing backfired, but we still got quality in return. Unlike in the past of giving way picks to rid of contracts.
 

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Nash was signed in 04-05 season, Sarver bought the team in 04-05. He could have done what other new owners do and say gut it and start over. I didn't say he built the team.

How soon people forget the Blanks era, that was crappy teams & horrible coaches. McD has only had a few tries and like his draft picks and trades so far. The IT signing backfired, but we still got quality in return. Unlike in the past of giving way picks to rid of contracts.

Sarver does not take credit for the Nash era in light of what a disaster it's been ever since. Nash takes credit for the Nash era.
 

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Then maybe you should learn more about the business of basketball and make an educated comment.

Well OKC built through the draft and multiple top picks. Which started with the dumping of talent to make the move from Seattle. How can you even compare.

Golden State is not a small market team. I hope you remember also it was Sarver that had a deal for Curry, but GS pulled out.

OK how about you go back when Sarver took over the team and tell me what you have done different.

The Nash era was during Sarver or does that time not count? After the Nash trade was done it has been bad, but not sure people understand there are bad times in every team. This team has YOUNG talent that still is learning how to play.

We had better talent about a week and a half ago that might have got us to the playoffs without IT, but that better talent wasn't a priority for our club for some reason. The young talent might lead us somewhere...in about 3 years assuming the young talent doesn't take off for nothing in the off season.
 

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Sorry for banging on about the FO but they have really fcked me off. For everyone's sake including my own I'm giving them till the offseason to sort it out, but if Knight walks and we get no one in return...Welcome to rebuilding / new coach / new GM / new HOO years before we make the playoffs again hell.
 

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We had better talent about a week and a half ago that might have got us to the playoffs without IT, but that better talent wasn't a priority for our club for some reason. The young talent might lead us somewhere...in about 3 years assuming the young talent doesn't take off for nothing in the off season.

That's assuming the young talent even plays. Knight & Len are the only 23 & under who are actually in the rotation. I guess Bledsoe is in that young category as well. As for the "young" Morris twins, I can't them getting much better. Hell if their attitudes don't change, how long will they even last in Phoenix?
 

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