Andre Dyson??

[RON_IN_OC]

And you still want to bring him here

Dave Mac must have made that call to cut him...

 

[BigRedVol]

Dave Mac must have made that call to cut him...

That's a scary thought

But he wasn't cut, he just wasn't resigned. He is a FA.

And besides, Coach Mac wouldn't have too much to say about corners as being their LB coach I wouldn't think.....

 

[joeshmo]

As for the concerns of Dyson getting burned while on the Titans last year, that will somewhat be nullified here as we have a much better pass rush then the Titans did last year. Titans were almost at the bottom while we were in the top half all the while improving our pass rush again this offseason with Okeafer and Dansby and Dockett gaining another year of experiance.

Plus Dyson will not be expensive, no FA's are expensive this time of year, and is better then mister no name we have opposite of Macklin as well.

 

[BigRedVol]

Ok. But I still haven't seen any written word or link that he is coming here to visit, or Denny is thinking about him. So far, its just talk on the board here. We could be debating over nothing. As far as I know, only Seattle, Washington, and KC have expressed any interest at all. I have seen nowhere that we show interest in him. Does anybody have a link that's not to a msg board proving interest, KFFL, ESPN, anywhere

 

[joeshmo]

Ok. But I still haven't seen any written word or link that he is coming here to visit, or Denny is thinking about him. So far, its just talk on the board here. We could be debating over nothing.

We could be debating over nothing but those are the most fun.

He was also scheduled to visit the Ravens but Rolle signed first.

Also by all indications we still have an offer on the table to Hill, so Green/Graves May have no interest in him or any other CB until probably Hill makes up his mind.

But I assume these are just assumptions.

 

[SincityCardinals]

IN dyson you are going to get a good #2 db that is it. If macklin goes down you all are in trouble. So I think the Cards are better off getting an all worlder in the draft.

You don't want dyson running around the field thinking he is the #1 DB because Macklin isn' t out there. Believe me you just don't. While macklin is out there sure!

 

[BigRedVol]

IN dyson you are going to get a good #2 db that is it. If macklin goes down you all are in trouble. So I think the Cards are better off getting an all worlder in the draft.

You don't want dyson running around the field thinking he is the #1 DB because Macklin isn' t out there. Believe me you just don't. While macklin is out there sure!

Good observation sin

BTW y'all, met this dude on Titan's board, I figured he was too close to home to not root for both the Titans and Cards

 

[SincityCardinals]

yea having two teams to root for on sundays gives me an excuse to have a beer in each hand!! ya' better make it a double bar keep!!

 

[HookemCards]

IN dyson you are going to get a good #2 db that is it. If macklin goes down you all are in trouble. So I think the Cards are better off getting an all worlder in the draft.

You don't want dyson running around the field thinking he is the #1 DB because Macklin isn' t out there. Believe me you just don't. While macklin is out there sure!

Nobody is suggesting signing him as the number 1, shut down corner. He would be #2. However if we don't pick him up (or another decent CB), and draft one at the 8 slot, we are still in trouble if Macklin is hurt. My suggestion is to sign him, and if the BPA at 8 is a CB, then draft him, and let them fight over the starting spot. At worst he becomes the nickle back.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Y'all are persistent today aint ya

I know for sure Im gonna bring this thread back up if he gets here and when we get burnt

I'm taking notes, and writing down names

This is nothing compared to the onslaught the McCown huggers will feel lol

 

[CaptTurbo]

So I think the Cards are better off getting an all worlder in the draft.
!

An all worlder in the draft? Sign me up! Who is that?

As far as I am concerned there are 300+ potential busts and thats it.

 

[BigRedVol]

Nobody is suggesting signing him as the number 1, shut down corner. He would be #2. However if we don't pick him up (or another decent CB), and draft one at the 8 slot, we are still in trouble if Macklin is hurt. My suggestion is to sign him, and if the BPA at 8 is a CB, then draft him, and let them fight over the starting spot. At worst he becomes the nickle back.

Oh if we draft corner at #8, he is starting!! And starting #1 IMO. If Dyson comes in, let him and Macklin battle for the #2 job. That way I can sleep at night knowing that Dyson will be the #3 and backup by week 1

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And that is exactly why I am heavily in favor for drafting Pac-Man at #8 if the Titans pass him up for Mike Williams or whomever....

rookie corners get burnt more than wonder bread in a broken toaster. a rookie should play mostly nickel situations in his first year, maybe breaking into the lineup later in the year. drafting a cb is a fine idea, relying on one is not. dyson would be a good corner for us. we desperately need someone of starting caliber. while dyson may not be a shutdown, he's defnitely better than nothing. a rotation of dyson, macklin, hill (if resigned) and a rookie would be excellent.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We're signing Ouchie, remember?

the cards won't meet my demands. all i wanted was a tuna sandwich and a minimum vets salary.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

6 cuts is hardly half the team. And they didn't resign him cause he wasn't worth it. If he had proved his worth, others could've been cut so he could stay. But as it stands, he had 4 years to prove his worth and he never did. I wonder if Josh McCown after 4 years here has the same type rep as Dyson does with the Titans. Will y'all be wanting to re-sign McCown too

And what I mean by that is "Josh did throw 15 picks this year, but he did get us 10 TD's...YEAH!!!" is the same almost as saying "Dyson did give up countless TD's from gambling and getting burnt, but he did get us 16 picks....YEAH!!" I wish I could see that stat

i'm no mccown fan, but if we had NO qb like we have NO cb opposite macklin, yeah, i'd be wanting to sign mccown too.

 

[BigRedVol]

rookie corners get burnt more than wonder bread in a broken toaster. a rookie should play mostly nickel situations in his first year, maybe breaking into the lineup later in the year. drafting a cb is a fine idea, relying on one is not. dyson would be a good corner for us. we desperately need someone of starting caliber. while dyson may not be a shutdown, he's defnitely better than nothing. a rotation of dyson, macklin, hill (if resigned) and a rookie would be excellent.

I can live with that last sentence. As long as we're not ALWAYS relying on Dyson. Let those 4 or 3 battle for the #1 job, and the loser or losers get the backup roles. Again, if we're stuck with Dyson as #1 guy due to injury or lack of a corner pick at #8, we're in some serious trouble

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

i think what everyone is forgetting is that denny is a STRONG disciple of BPA. he won't draft a corner just because it is a need for us. to depend on denny drafting a corner just b/c we need one is flawed logic. that's why i think we need to sign a quality (note, i didn't say shutdown or stud) corner like dyson.

 

[SincityCardinals]

I see three cb's in the draft that can go to any team, and make a difference right away. and the best being the lowest graded!
Rolle, Pac man, and Rodgers are guys that will be able to come right into the league and not get burnt to a crisp. (but hey ALL cB's get burned. it's the ones who can forget and not forgive, are the ones who frighten nfl qb's.) WE should have a shot at getting any three of those guys!
and watching dyson play for four years. I would say that we would be better off with them as first year players. (and no I am not dissing dyson because he is gone. Because he isn't actually gone yet! He is just testing the FA market!) But if you want him by all means. We would much rather build through the draft of talented Cb's.

Although I do love the line there are 300 potential busts in the draft!!! funny! and true sometimes ! (that is what San Diego is saying to Brees right now! )

 

[SincityCardinals]

the other thing to remember about dyson is that he is expecting to get big money!!
that's why Titans fo has balked at resigning him. Dyson thinks he is a tried and true strong #1 cb. Now what is scary about that is. That most people in their "MONEY" year of their contract play their asses off to show they are worth the big dough! Dyson did not! He had one of his worse years as a titan. Some fans say he was just trying to hard. I am not buying that. I saw a lot of bad beats, and poor tackling. Jeff fisher will not stand for poor tackling! Neither will Denny!

 

[BigRedVol]

i think what everyone is forgetting is that denny is a STRONG disciple of BPA. he won't draft a corner just because it is a need for us. to depend on denny drafting a corner just b/c we need one is flawed logic. that's why i think we need to sign a quality (note, i didn't say shutdown or stud) corner like dyson.

Um, by the time we are on the clock, the BPA may very well be Pac-Man. If he is gone, then likely Cedrick Benson. And if both are sitting right there, Pac-Man is ranked above Benson in the top 100

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I would not be against a Rolle/Dyson/Macklin trio of CB's. I really want to see the Cards resign Hill or add a vet CB. Then still take a CB Round 1 or 2, which I really think that will do.

 

[BigRedVol]

Lucky for us that our 2 greatest needs in the draft are 2 of the most packed positions loaded with talent. The BPA at #8 will be without a doubt in my mind, either a corner, or a RB.

 

[BigDavis75]

Bringing in Dyson doesn't make very much sense we would bring in another #2 corner that is not familiar with the system and who strugggles in Run Support. He is also very small and gambles which has been mentioned repeatedly. The best situation would be re-signing Hill and drafting a corner at #8 or getting Justin Miller in the 2nd, then Hill can step in and start until the rook learns the ropes and the rook can then move into the #1 corner slot with Hill at the nickel IMO.