Ankiel received HGH

[abomb]

Baseball is dead. One of the few feel-good stories of the year, ruined.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...rick_ankiel_received_12month_supply_of_h.html

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Baseball is dead. One of the few feel-good stories of the year, ruined.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...rick_ankiel_received_12month_supply_of_h.html

I know.

 

[Dback Jon]

Baseball is dead. One of the few feel-good stories of the year, ruined.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...rick_ankiel_received_12month_supply_of_h.html

What else do you expect from a St. Louis Cardinal??

The feel good story of 2007 is right here in Phoenix!!

 

[Dback Jon]

THARC was not one of the anti-aging clinics busted by Albany, but Signature's owners are under indictment. Prosecutors have said clinics similar to THARC paid physicians to sign prescriptions for clients they never saw - a violation of New York and Florida law - which were then filled at Signature and other pharmacies and shipped to clients. The names of at least 14 professional wrestlers, New England Patriots safety Rodney Harrison (who was suspended by the NFL for four games) and Dallas Cowboys coach Wade Wilson (suspended five games and fined $100,000) have already emerged from the investigation, but Ankiel and Woodard are the first baseball players connected to Signature.

So is the NFL dead as well??? Hell of a lot more problems in the NFL right now...

 

[abomb]

So is the NFL dead as well??? Hell of a lot more problems in the NFL right now...

The NFL problems are having very little effect on the league's overall reputation thanks to a commish that is worth something.

Saturday's Dbacks game might be the last game I go to for a long time. I need to get the bobblehead for a friend.

 

[Dback Jon]

The NFL problems are having very little effect on the league's overall reputation thanks to a commish that is worth something.

Saturday's Dbacks game might be the last game I go to for a long time. I need to get the bobblehead for a friend.

Why not go to more? You don't like baseball?

 

[abomb]

Why not go to more? You don't like baseball?

I guess I have just totally lost my appetite for it. My baseball buddy moved away, so I didnt have anyone to go with. Erin will go, but even I think baseball is pretty boring compared to the adrenaline high of NFL football.

My disdain for Bud Selig and baseball leadership have pretty much ruined the game for me.

Along comes Ankiel, with the feel-good story of many, many years and turns out to be a fraud too. To support baseball much more than I do, would make me a fool. Obviously the league cares little about the fans.

Goodell has addressed problems with Vick, Jones, Tank Johnson, Chris Henry, the retirees and the concussions with ninja-like quickness. He understands his responsibility to the fans and more importantly to the game itself. He isnt a puppet for the owners like Selig.

 

[Mulli]

I guess I have just totally lost my appetite for it. My baseball buddy moved away, so I didnt have anyone to go with. Erin will go, but even I think baseball is pretty boring compared to the adrenaline high of NFL football.

My disdain for Bud Selig and baseball leadership have pretty much ruined the game for me.

Along comes Ankiel, with the feel-good story of many, many years and turns out to be a fraud too. To support baseball much more than I do, would make me a fool. Obviously the league cares little about the fans.

Goodell has addressed problems with Vick, Jones, Tank Johnson, Chris Henry, the retirees and the concussions with ninja-like quickness. He understands his responsibility to the fans and more importantly to the game itself. He isnt a puppet for the owners like Selig.

Yeah, but the swimming pool!!

 

[Dback Jon]

I guess I have just totally lost my appetite for it. My baseball buddy moved away, so I didnt have anyone to go with. Erin will go, but even I think baseball is pretty boring compared to the adrenaline high of NFL football.

My disdain for Bud Selig and baseball leadership have pretty much ruined the game for me.

Along comes Ankiel, with the feel-good story of many, many years and turns out to be a fraud too. To support baseball much more than I do, would make me a fool. Obviously the league cares little about the fans.

Goodell has addressed problems with Vick, Jones, Tank Johnson, Chris Henry, the retirees and the concussions with ninja-like quickness. He understands his responsibility to the fans and more importantly to the game itself. He isnt a puppet for the owners like Selig.

You don't think the performance of CY, Owings, Webb, Davis, Drew, etc isn't a feel good story? You are turned off by a story from one of our competitors, but can't get excited about our own feel good stories?

So if Tony Romo turned out to be a fraud, would you get disallusioned with the NFL?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

If you're a minor league at his age running out of time to make the bigs you'd have to be a moron not to do everything you can within the league rules to get to the majors. When baseball actually tests for HGH, then maybe I'll condemn the players that choose to use it as cheaters.

And the hypocrisy of of those who have left the game of baseball is mindboggling. The NFL drug testing policy is a joke, a somewhat intelligent third grader could navigate his way around it.

EDIT - And the most important thing, Ankiel got the HGH in 2004 when it was not even banned by baseball. Are we going to go out and call Willie Mays a fraud because he took now illegal grennies in his time? Didn't think so.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Baseball itself has been and always will be my passion and favorite sport... I love all sports actually, but will always hold a special place for baseball.
That said, Selig has single-handidly set the game back decades... While the NFL & NBA have both had to deal with an equivalent, if not greater degree of crap - their respective leaders actually dealt with it and as a result, no matter how agregious the crime, those two sports continue to do very well... Baseball's status & popularity has suffered. Regardless of the current attendance levels which might suggest a different story, on the whole the game has suffered, largely because of one mans' ineptitude... Bud the slug...

 

[arthurracoon]

Baseball itself has been and always will be my passion and favorite sport... I love all sports actually, but will always hold a special place for baseball.
That said, Selig has single-handidly set the game back decades... While the NFL & NBA have both had to deal with an equivalent, if not greater degree of crap - their respective leaders actually dealt with it and as a result, no matter how agregious the crime, those two sports continue to do very well... Baseball's status & popularity has suffered. Regardless of the current attendance levels which might suggest a different story, on the whole the game has suffered, largely because of one mans' ineptitude... Bud the slug...

David stern is a moron too.

 

[82CardsGrad]

David stern is a moron too.

That's your opinion of course... He might be a moron - however, if he is, he is clearly one of the most effective moron's I have ever seen...And certainly, not even close to the level of Bud the Slug...

 

[nathan]

If you're a minor league at his age running out of time to make the bigs you'd have to be a moron not to do everything you can within the league rules to get to the majors.

He also had Tommy John surgery in July of 2003, so I'm more inclined right now to attribute this to post-surgery panic than cheating.

 

[Russ Smith]

Baseball is dead. One of the few feel-good stories of the year, ruined.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...rick_ankiel_received_12month_supply_of_h.html

Totally agree I was so psyched for ankiel after everything he went through as a pitcher and now this?

I got out of baseball after the last strike, everytime they start to lure me back there's some drug scandal that turns me off. I know it wasn't against the rules at the time, I know he had a prescription, I also know he did it to cheat and I don't like it one bit.

His season is a remarkable story but this taints it bigtime for me.

 

[Russ Smith]

He also had Tommy John surgery in July of 2003, so I'm more inclined right now to attribute this to post-surgery panic than cheating.

Except he was ordering it for nearly a year which implies it wasn't just a post surgical thing?

 

[nathan]

Except he was ordering it for nearly a year which implies it wasn't just a post surgical thing?

Isn't full recovery from Tommy John surgery supposed to take 18 months?

 

[Russ Smith]

Isn't full recovery from Tommy John surgery supposed to take 18 months?

I don't know, I know he was buying HGH Jan to Dec of 04 so that's up to 18 months after the surgery.

I don't doubt it was partly to rehab from the surgery.
I like Ankiel what he went through as a pitcher you have to pull for him now.

I just wish this hadn't turned out to be part of the story.

 

[PoolBoy]

Rick Ankiel...the natural hahha i bet the city oF St. Louis is really regretting giving him that nickname. thats like Mark Reynolds "The Sheriff" getting arrested for a DUI

 

[Southpaw]

.... and he is invoking Doctor/Patient privilege. WTHeck is that about? My guess is that he is invoking the Mark McGwire privilege. Just refuses to talk about the past. Two weeks ago, I was watching a game and the cameras were focused on him when he came out of the dugout for a curtain call. The guy was ripped like a body builder on juice. Veins popping, eyes bugging. I was sitting there trying to figure out how this guy went from a " stretched out " pitcher to a Barry Bonds clone in 2 years. Maybe now we know.

 

[TheCardFan]

His season is a remarkable story but this taints it bigtime for me.

Why?

He used HGH 3 yrs ago, while he was a minor league pitcher.

He is not being accused of using HGH, steroids, or any other performance enhancing drug while a batter in the majors.

Bonds and McGwire are tainted because what we wacthed them do on the field was directly influenced by steroids.

Ankiel is the natural and what you are watching him do is as a clean MLB player...enjoy it.

 

[AsUdUdE]

WAIT.. so your telling me that a pitcher who sucked and was out of baseball only to come back and magically become the babe ruth of baseball in his first month is NOT just a natural progression???

 

[AsUdUdE]

Why?

He used HGH 3 yrs ago, while he was a minor league pitcher.

He is not being accused of using HGH, steroids, or any other performance enhancing drug while a batter in the majors.

Bonds and McGwire are tainted because what we wacthed them do on the field was directly influenced by steroids.

Ankiel is the natural and what you are watching him do is as a clean MLB player...enjoy it.

I may not be an expert on HGH and steroids.... But he took it for na ENTIRE YEAR... Pretty Sure that reforms your body and gets you to the point where he was CAPABLE to do things he otherwise wouldn't be able to do... ALA.. hit 9 HRs in a month.....

Its the same argument that Barry Bonds makes "Eevn if I did take HGH, it doesn't make me able to hit the ball better" NOT True... It gives you the opportunity to grow and hit the ball HARDER.....

So yeah... this story doesn't completly ruin the magic for me (after all the courage he has is unbelieveable) but at the very least it certainly taints it for me.....

 

[green machine]

Even if he used them to recover from injury that is cheating.

The story is tainted now, and it's a shame, although not terribly surprising.

 

[Gee!]

Why?

He used HGH 3 yrs ago, while he was a minor league pitcher.

He is not being accused of using HGH, steroids, or any other performance enhancing drug while a batter in the majors.

Bonds and McGwire are tainted because what we wacthed them do on the field was directly influenced by steroids.

Ankiel is the natural and what you are watching him do is as a clean MLB player...enjoy it.

Why? Because there is no way to test for HGH and whos to say he still isnt on the stuff? I mean a pitcher coming back 4 years later and is now a HR hitting machine doesnt throw up some red flags now that you know he has HGH in his past and could be doing it right now but theres no way to test for it..