Are you in Tune?

[slanidrac16]

Please tell me what makes you think he can be an NFL starter? The burden of proof is on the CAN he do it side, and not on the negative of "show us why he can't" do it.

The point is he’s been on the roster for two years playing behind a Qb that has missed time coming off an injury.
His body of work, or lack thereof, does not automatically disqualify him.
We haven’t seen enough of him to really make a true opinion.
Not one response has been:
His release is to slow.
He lacks arm strength.
He’s can’t throw deep.
He’s has accuracy problems.

I repeat. I don’t know the answer. If I asked the same question about Kyler I guarantee I would have 10 different reasons why.

 

[CardNots]

This is a silly concept. Having to prove that a guy can't be a starting NFL QB is silly. The burden of proof is on the player to show he can. When Tune has been on the field...he has proven nothing.

In his defense the times I’ve seen him he has had little to no time to throw the ball.

I suspect his reaction time isn’t where it needs to be for success as a starting NFL QB.

 

[HairZach]

The few times we saw him his ball placement was horrible. He looked like Trey Lance.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Lots of back up QBs got their start because of injuries. Some of them turned out to be pretty good. give him a chance. Murray has been in the league for six years and JG has had him for two years. He is not improving and still cannot read a defense. He will get JG fired.

 

[kerouac9]

Not one response has been:
His release is to slow.
He lacks arm strength.
He’s can’t throw deep.
He’s has accuracy problems.

It’s probably that all of those things are true. I don’t think there’s much that separates Mitch Trubisky from Nathan Peterman from Charlie Whitehurst. Being a solid backup QB is almost its own job.

You can be good enough to hand off the ball in practice and deliver routes on the scout team but lack the split-second decision-making and poise under pressure to start or even compete for a starting job.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of Tune this year. Usually by this time, Kyler has missed three or four games due to injury.

 

[slanidrac16]

It’s probably that all of those things are true. I don’t think there’s much that separates Mitch Trubisky from Nathan Peterman from Charlie Whitehurst. Being a solid backup QB is almost its own job.

You can be good enough to hand off the ball in practice and deliver routes on the scout team but lack the split-second decision-making and poise under pressure to start or even compete for a starting job.

If that’s the case he shouldn’t be on the roster, no?

 

[oaken1]

If that’s the case he shouldn’t be on the roster, no?

For the vast majority of the nfl if your starting qb goes down for an extended period your season is over anyway.
My guess is, if he has to start an occasional game, they figure they can lean more heavily into the run game and limit him to around 15 passes a game

 

[dreamcastrocks]

In his defense the times I’ve seen him he has had little to no time to throw the ball.

I suspect his reaction time isn’t where it needs to be for success as a starting NFL QB.

I think it is his combination of reaction time and footwork. He is seemingly always throwing off of his back foot on intermediate throws.

err, I thought this was about Kyler. Isn't every thread about Kyler?

 

[kerouac9]

If that’s the case he shouldn’t be on the roster, no?

There are guys who can’t start on every roster in the NFL. Kei’Trel Clark can’t play and the team still finds a way to put him on the field for 1-5 defensive snaps per game.

Playing in the NFL is hard. Starting NFL QB is perhaps the hardest job in sports. If Tune can do the backup job really well for 12 months a year, he adds value to the team.

Maybe more than Desmond Ridder, who can do the starting QB job at a below-average level for 2-4 weeks a year if you need him, but grumbles about his role the other 45-50 weeks.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Im done with murray dude never ever wins meaningful gms....

Sad to say but start tune see what kid csn do vs dreaded 49ers and draft qb in 1 of later rounds!!!

Gm gonna be ugly eaither way lol sighhhh (((

 

[CardNots]

Im done with murray dude never ever wins meaningful gms....

Sad to say but start tune see what kid csn do vs dreaded 49ers and draft qb in 1 of later rounds!!!

Gm gonna be ugly eaither way lol sighhhh (((

Maybe but all three of the California teams were meaningful games.

Rams, 49ers and Chargers

Not must win type games but certainly meaningful.

 

[JosiahLee]

Tune should not be on an NFL roster. Thank God Kyler stayed healthy all year. Starting Tune would have been disastrous. They need to upgrade this position this offseason.

 

[kerouac9]

Tune should not be on an NFL roster.

What factual basis do you have for this assertion?

 

[JosiahLee]

What factual basis do you have for this assertion?

Have you watched him play football? The one time he was forced to start he had a whopping 58 yards, 2 INTs and 0 points. He can’t even execute the tush push when they bring him in for that play.

 

[eastcoastDave]

I wish that was the case. The moment I saw Love throw a football I knew he was an NFL franchise QB. Dude has been a stud since he stepped on the field.

Tune has nothing in common with Love other than being in the NFL.

I saw Tune on TV several times while he was at Houston. He had a phenomenal college career — 12,000 passing yards, 64% completion rate, 104 TDs. He’s got the physical attributes, 6-3, 225, to play QB. I’d like to see him start against the 49ers, who are about as banged up as we are. The coaches have seen him a lot and decided to keep him instead of others, so they must feel confident in his abilities. We — as fans — have not seen him enough to draw any conclusion about his viability. If he’s awful, the worst that would happen is that the Cards would finish 7-10, instead of 8–9. Big whoop. They may finish 7-10 with Kyler at QB, so there’s that.

 

[Harry]

I respect all your opinions but saying he doesn’t belong other than “ Just Because” doesn’t cut it.
Maybe Harry can chime in.simply what does he lack?

I wish I could add more, but you can’t rate a player who doesn’t play. This guy was very raw when the Cards grabbed him. Nonetheless many of us thought he had some talent. He’s more mobile than you think and has good arm strength. His only real playing time came behind a line many veterans couldn’t play behind. I’m not sure if that scarred him. Now when they could play him, the line is back to marginal. I’d like to see if he’s grown, but Murray (flaws everywhere) can’t win behind this unit. That wouldn’t seem the ideal place to play Tune. So the Cards don’t really know what they have. Does he have the composure to win in the NFL? I don’t know. It would be ironic at this point if they give up on him and he goes elsewhere and wins. Sadly because of the uncertainty, Murray’s weaknesses and next year’s intent to compete for the playoffs, the Cards need to sign a vet.

 

[Stout]

The point is he’s been on the roster for two years playing behind a Qb that has missed time coming off an injury.
His body of work, or lack thereof, does not automatically disqualify him.
We haven’t seen enough of him to really make a true opinion.
Not one response has been:
His release is to slow.
He lacks arm strength.
He’s can’t throw deep.
He’s has accuracy problems.

I repeat. I don’t know the answer. If I asked the same question about Kyler I guarantee I would have 10 different reasons why.

Again, the burden of proof is on someone to prove he CAN be a starting NFL QB. Nothing at all has suggested he is anywhere close to that level. Saying you don't have the answer doesn't do anything to boost his odds, which are probably about 90-99% against.

 

[gimpy]

Harry, what makes him "raw" compared to other players? And what does that actually mean (hear it all the time)?
He had a good college career, better than most.

 

[kerouac9]

Have you watched him play football? The one time he was forced to start he had a whopping 58 yards, 2 INTs and 0 points. He can’t even execute the tush push when they bring him in for that play.

So you’re basing this guy’s entire career on 20 passing attempts 14 months ago. No weight given to the hundreds of hours and thousands of practice reps the coaches are privy to but we aren’t.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Nobody knows what Tune can do. Those talking in absolutes are taking out if their asses.

Warner had to arena league to play. I’m sure 602 thought Darnold was crap too.

Tune will probably be a career backup. But, at this point nobody knows how he’d be with full QB 1 training/reps.

 

[oaken1]

Nobody knows what Tune can do. Those talking in absolutes are taking out if their asses.

Warner had to arena league to play. I’m sure 602 thought Darnold was crap too.

Tune will probably be a career backup. But, at this point nobody knows how he’d be with full QB 1 training/reps.

I'm on record for wanting us to trade up for Darnold...
Poor bastard, getting drafted by the Jets is a death sentence for a QB...then to land on the isle of mismanaged kids that is Carolina....most guys would have quit the league..but a season on the bench of a well run team helped him put it all together....and after a full season of showing who he really is maybe he will finally get his chance to take over as a franchise QB somewhere.

Look up the Jets record with drafted QBs... haven't developed a guy since Joe Namath...unless you count Mark Sanchez or Chad Pennington...but both of those guys could have been so much more... I feel bad for any QB getting drafted by the Jets

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm on record for wanting us to trade up for Darnold...
Poor bastard, getting drafted by the Jets is a death sentence for a QB...then to land on the isle of mismanaged kids that is Carolina....most guys would have quit the league..but a season on the bench of a well run team helped him put it all together....and after a full season of showing who he really is maybe he will finally get his chance to take over as a franchise QB somewhere.

Look up the Jets record with drafted QBs... haven't developed a guy since Joe Namath...unless you count Mark Sanchez or Chad Pennington...but both of those guys could have been so much more... I feel bad for any QB getting drafted by the Jets

You’re right. It’s more about where you’re drafted, not when.
The Jets and Bears are about the worst places to get drafted.

My point was I’m sure everyone was saying Darnold sucked, and he was bad, but nobody really knows. And, they know nothing about whether Tune can be any good or not.

 

[oaken1]

You’re right. It’s more about where you’re drafted, not when.
The Jets and Bears are about the worst places to get drafted.

My point was I’m sure everyone was saying Darnold sucked, and he was bad, but nobody really knows. And, they know nothing about whether Tune can be any good or not.

We had a lot of guys smack talking Sam....
Tune? Who knows. There is a certain amount that is inate ability, and a certain amount that is learned and earned through coaching and practice.
Tune is getting coaching and practice. But does he have the inate ability?
Kurt Warner flipped a switch...from practice squads to arena league to Super Bowl MVP....does Tune have to be kicked in the face that many times to find it in himself? Most guys give up before then.

 

[BirdGangThing]

i don't even know why kyler's playing in this game - to save face? to show he cares? does playing against frisco's backup when they're already out of the playoffs prove anything at all?

turn on tune in drop out