Arians appoints Drew Stanton as this year's #2 QB over Gabbert

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Citing that Gabbert does not know the play book, Arians has chosen Stanton again as the # 2 QB for this season. I express great disappointment in that decision, as Stanton had shown exactly zero improvement in his entire time here with this offense, and the ONLY consistency he has shown is that he is predictably inconsistent with his performance from week to week.

I am well aware that we have only seen Gabbert for the final minutes of three pre-season games, but he has out-performed Stanton by huge margins in that time, displaying not only his laser arm, but throwing accurately into tight windows. In those games, Gabbert, while arguably against the scrubs of other teams, has shown unique ability to go thru his reads quickly, and get the ball consistently to the right receiver in time. He has accomplished more in less time than either of the other two QB's and had done it with our scrubs as well as well. He has shown excellent clock and game management in those times, and has scored against his opponents more than either of the other two QB's-----despite not knowing our play book. I, for one would think that Arians would have been ecstatic with Gabberts performances in games, and would have seen the Gabbert's ability to run out of trouble, (with purpose and directness), keeping many plays alive despite his having to rely on his feet to accomplish that, (something neither of our other QB's have shown they can do). As I see it, Gabbert has been far more consistent with his play and success, than Stanton has, and Gabbert has done that without knowing the playbook like Stanton does. He has taken over the huddle and the roster when on the field like a true veteran, and has moved the team, scored on his opponent far more consistently than the others have, and has done it at the very most critical times during those games, (when the time was running out against him and our team was trailing badly). The fact that he accomplished this despite not knowing the playbook should be a huge complement for him in my opinion. Gabbert, at least in my opinion, has already shown what Arians has stated that he most wants out of his QB's, and that is the ability to command the game when it is on the line and to show situational awareness during those times, (which seldom has been shown by Drew Stanton).

Despite the fact that Gabbert had done all this, he has done it without benefit of EVER having had the same OC for more than one season in any year of his league experience thus far. I fear that Arians is sadly overlooking some great promise shown by Gabbert, perhaps simply because of his comfort with having had Stanton as his back up on two teams now. In my humble opinion, Gabbert has shown more chance for success so far in his scant time here than anyone since Kurt Warner did when he came here, and Warner was handicapped by not being the fleet mobile QB who could use his feet to get out of trouble. Gabbert even has that going for him. Just my opinion, but I hope this coaching staff does not squander a real chance to possibly develop some obvious talent that perhaps has as yet been un-tapped in this league, and given the opportunity to take advantage of his skills before being relegated once again to the trash pile.
 

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I'm with you but honestly feel he will easily be our #2 next year if palmer returns. If palmer doesnt, he will compete for the #1 and I have hope he can play now vs when he first showed up. He has proven that he has talent and can operate the system. It was against scrubs but I am not looking at the competition, just evaluating him, his presence, his reads and etc.
 

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They will keep 3 qtrbacks. Gabbert will continue to be groomed thru out this year to possibly being the #1 or #2 next season depending if Palmer retires. Keim is excited about Gabberts future as I said in another thread. No way BA was going to choose Gabbert over his boy Stanton. BA is loyal to a fault. Hopefully Palmer will remain healthy this season but if he goes down, we'll see how long BA hangs himself going with Stanton before he puts in BG? Stay tuned.
 

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See, I totally agree with your evaluation. 110%.

I also understand why BA keeps Stanton as the #2- and it's in part because of his familiarity and in part because of how much Stanton does for Palmer on the sideline.

That being said, keeping Gabbert and letting him run scout team and develop is also a great thing. He will be there if Stanton blows it. And if we get to a point where Stanton is blowing it, we are screwed anyways.
 

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I'm disappointed Stanton is the backup quarterback. I guess it's hard for Arians to break the umbilical cord. My hope is the Cardinals carry three quarterbacks if it has not already been decided.
 
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NativeAzFan---- it is the loyal to a fault part that I hope doesn't mess with what appears to be a question in my mind. That may be what precisely has happened to Gabbert thus far thru his career. He had great hopes coming in to t he league, but has failed to pan out. I am just wondering what kind of shot he actually got to prove himself, or if he was simply a victim of loyalty to a fault by other gm/oc etc. How is it that he has not had one OC for more than one season in his entire tenure in the league. There are too many good ole boy coaches in this league who are loyal to a fault. Even Whizenhunt had to be force fed Kurt Warner, remember----?????
 
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splitsecond--------in my opinion Stanton has already blown it. He is been operating here for several years now without showing one bit of improvement. He is just as inconsistent as ever and has not progressed at all. I am just hoping that Gabbert is not thrown out with the trash ag
 
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mainstreet----I just don't want Gabbert to be put on the practice squad because he is so adept in playing other teams schemes. I would hate to see his potential wasted as he will certainly not be able to have time to learn our palybooik if he is always busy trying to emulate our opponent's QB for the upcoming game.
 

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I am not a Stanton fan by any means and think BG has outplayed him in preseason. However, I think a Head Coach has to have complete confidence in the backup and BA seems to have that in Stanton. Maybe it's because of blind loyalty, maybe it's because the team has won more than lost with him at the helm, who knows? What is certain that, barring injury, BA is hanging his hat on Drew as the backup and is very comfortable with that decision.

BG has a few years of film and lack of success to be wary of his abilities, this preseason notwithstanding. That probably keeps him from being anointed the #2 at this stage. I hope that BA has simply evaluated all of that and is taking the wait and see approach in evaluating BG's long term potential in the pecking order. He may work out great a la Kurt, he may not. His history shows he just isn't that good, OC after OC, bad teams, etc., etc. notwithstanding.

I know, Stanton has really blown the last 2 seasons in his limited opportunities. I know that he has, absent 2 games ago, blown in preseason, but Palmer seems to value his presence and is apparently fine with him as backup. That probably goes a long way with BA as well.

If the Cards are down to Stanton OR Gabbert, if Palmer goes down for any extended period of time, they are screwed anyway. I don't like the decision but if I look at it objectively I can understand (at least in part) the decision.

I just pray Palmer can last all 16 games this year.
 

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mainstreet----I just don't want Gabbert to be put on the practice squad because he is so adept in playing other teams schemes. I would hate to see his potential wasted as he will certainly not be able to have time to learn our palybooik if he is always busy trying to emulate our opponent's QB for the upcoming game.

I am pretty sure Gabbert isn't practice squad eligible since he has been on active rosters his entire career
 

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They will keep 3 qtrbacks. Gabbert will continue to be groomed thru out this year to possibly being the #1 or #2 next season depending if Palmer retires. Keim is excited about Gabberts future as I said in another thread. No way BA was going to choose Gabbert over his boy Stanton. BA is loyal to a fault. Hopefully Palmer will remain healthy this season but if he goes down, we'll see how long BA hangs himself going with Stanton before he puts in BG? Stay tuned.
#3 QBs don't get reps and /or coaching historically.
 

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Even Whizenhunt had to be force fed Kurt Warner, remember----?????
Kinda off topic, but that's exactly the OPPOSITE of what I remember. More like, there was pressure on Whisenhunt to play Leinart, but he found a way to get Warner on the field in the 2-minute package. Then Leinart got hurt & there was no looking back. Heck, Whisenhunt didn't even want to play Leinart after Warner retired.

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Here's my thought. Stanton is the #2 as in if a fill in is needed. If Palmer has a year ending injury at some point I think Gabbert would be called on as the starter and Stanton still #2.

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mainstreet----I just don't want Gabbert to be put on the practice squad because he is so adept in playing other teams schemes. I would hate to see his potential wasted as he will certainly not be able to have time to learn our palybooik if he is always busy trying to emulate our opponent's QB for the upcoming game.

As already mentioned, I don't think Gabbert is eligible for the practice squad. If the Cardinals release him, I think another team picks him up. I'd like to see if Gabbert has a future with the Cardinals.
 

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1) Gabbert is not eligible for the practice squad

2) Many are severely discounting knowledge of the playbook. Stanton has a substantial edge. 5 years compared to 3 months. If Palmer were to go down, you can keep the playbook open. For Gabbert, BA would have to use the cliff notes version, which impacts calls at the line, hots, run game, etc.

3) It's not like we're talking about replacing Stanton with Matt Ryan. This is Blaine Freaking Gabbert! There is more than enough video evidence, during actual games, which proves he's not a very good quarterback. There's a reason that he's making only $880k/year. It's not like the Cards stumbled upon some rare gem.

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Prediction: They keep all 3. At some point, Palmer gets run over by some linebacker who doesn't get blocked and is out for (at least) a few games. Stanton comes in, and looks like.. Stanton. After about 2 games of awful play, Gabbert is given the reins. And shines.
 

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Citing that Gabbert does not know the play book, Arians has chosen Stanton again as the # 2 QB for this season. I express great disappointment in that decision, as Stanton had shown exactly zero improvement in his entire time here with this offense, and the ONLY consistency he has shown is that he is predictably inconsistent with his performance from week to week.


I completely agree with the bolded statement.
 

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mainstreet----I just don't want Gabbert to be put on the practice squad because he is so adept in playing other teams schemes. I would hate to see his potential wasted as he will certainly not be able to have time to learn our palybooik if he is always busy trying to emulate our opponent's QB for the upcoming game.
hes not eligible for practice squad
 

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#3 QBs don't get reps and /or coaching historically.

If he plays QB for scout team and is still in all the meetings he will still be improving all year long and getting deeper and deeper into the system. I doubt #2 gets many reps either except palmers day off.
 

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If he plays QB for scout team and is still in all the meetings he will still be improving all year long and getting deeper and deeper into the system. I doubt #2 gets many reps either except palmers day off.

Not to mention the reps on the virtual reality machine. It would do him good to spend a year learning the system. Then see what he's got next year. I doubt that there is anything to get excited about, but at this point the cabinets are bare as far as a QBOF.
 

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Here's my thought. Stanton is the #2 as in if a fill in is needed. If Palmer has a year ending injury at some point I think Gabbert would be called on as the starter and Stanton still #2.

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I like the scenario but don't understand the logic. BA is a stubborn man. I don't believe he is building this team for the future. He is in the now.
 
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I like the scenario but don't understand the logic. BA is a stubborn man. I don't believe he is building this team for the future. He is in the now.
Southpaw, I believe your correct in your assessment of BAUER building for now while I believe SK is more interested in building for the future so I believe the HC and GM are looking in two different directions.
 

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