Arians contacts league office about “many problems” with officiating

[NJCardFan]

Cary Williams calling Arians a crybaby.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2013/12/cary_williams_to_bruce_arians.html



What a D-Bag.

As I said in other threads, even the homers on Philly sports talk radio admitted the officials jobbed the Cards. They were happy that something like that finally went in their favor.

 

[Zeno]

I mentioned this in another thread but didn't have any video/picture so I let it go. And yes, he was absolutely looking at the ball. When the flag came out I jumped up happy because I was SURE it was offensive PI. Putting the ball on the 1 was like giving the eagles a TD.

I sure as Hell didn't see him look at the ball until after the WR was falling down. Powers was beat, plain and simple and flailed and was rightly called for PI. The inconsistency is a good argument because the Floyd mugging was worse but that was a good call IMO.

 

[Zeno]

However, same play in the Pittsburgh/Baltimore game on Thanksgiving during Pitt's 2 point conversion try and it wasn't called. That's the argument. Consistency. Hell, that abysmal call in the Carolina/NE game shows you how inconsistent the officiating has been this season.

Yep, that is the frustrating part...the same call should be made consistently no matter the team or player. A foul is a foul no matter where it happens or who is involved...I understand the "human factor" but it is ridiculous.

 

[Hollywood]

Someone has to have video or images of this

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I have no problem with him calling out the officials for blown calls. There is no problem about him calling them out. However, don't blame the loss on that. The Cards had plenty of opportunities they never capitalized on during that game.

We can blame it on whatever we want.

One of the questionable calls gifted them a TD before the half. Take that away and it's a different game. Give them a FG instead on that drive and that's a 4 point swing in a 3 point loss. That makes it a 1 point victory for us right there. Now mix in a couple of the other calls being incorrect as well and it is a whole different game.

Is there some unwritten rule that the only time you can complain about the refs is if you play a near perfect game and still lose? Most games are up and down, back and forth, with momentum swings. As I said before - we have played worse and still won.

 

[Cardiac]

PI and D holding calls are very subjective. Those Refs are not on the same page, heck not even in the same book. HB's holding call was very nit picky. If the refs are going to let the DB's "play" then so be it but then be consistent.

If Powers play was PI then MF was fouled. Actually no matter what your bench mark is MF was fouled.

I like that BA has stated the refs didn't cost us the game. I'm hoping he is screaming this to his players every chance he gets. Part of sending the questionable calls to the league is to get clarification so that he can coach his players accordingly. Maybe a chance to improve technique etc.

 

[Duckjake]

On the other hand didn't the Eagles have a TD called back because of a holding penalty on a punt return. That would have made it 31 to 14 Eagles.

 

[jefftheshark]

On the other hand didn't the Eagles have a TD called back because of a holding penalty on a punt return. That would have made it 31 to 14 Eagles.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

JTS

 

[RugbyMuffin]

On the other hand didn't the Eagles have a TD called back because of a holding penalty on a punt return. That would have made it 31 to 14 Eagles.

Yup.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Cary Williams calling Arians a crybaby.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2013/12/cary_williams_to_bruce_arians.html



What a D-Bag.

I like how the author of that article completely ignores the Floyd blatant hold...

Cary Williams is a D-Bag: Arians wasnt crying...

 

[Totally_Red]

I like how the author of that article completely ignores the Floyd blatant hold...

Cary Williams is a D-Bag: Arians wasnt crying...

This! He's no Jim Harbaugh!

I don't have a problem with different officiating crews calling pass interference and holding differently. I do have a problem with the same officiating crew calling it differently, which they did in the Philly game. That's not crying, that is stating a fact.

 

[8ndkorner]

The bottom line is there is a huge difference between shooting yourself in the foot and someone else shooting you in the foot. One involves and ambulance and an ER, the other involves cops and jail.

I disagree. Both would involve cops, ambulance and possibly ER. Now, was I intentionally shot in the foot?

I love this forum. Go Cards.

 

[Paso Fino]

There is a fascinating article by Peter King about officiating. He was allowed to follow an officiating team very closely. In the first segment the referee reviews the comments the league made about his officiating in a Cardinal's game. I found it on twitter.

 

[Covert Rain]

We can blame it on whatever we want.

One of the questionable calls gifted them a TD before the half. Take that away and it's a different game. Give them a FG instead on that drive and that's a 4 point swing in a 3 point loss. That makes it a 1 point victory for us right there. Now mix in a couple of the other calls being incorrect as well and it is a whole different game.

Is there some unwritten rule that the only time you can complain about the refs is if you play a near perfect game and still lose? Most games are up and down, back and forth, with momentum swings. As I said before - we have played worse and still won.

Yes...you sure can but so what? I have no problem with people complaining about the Refs but don't go blaming the loss on that. We had opportunities and didn't take advantage of them. Was it a factor? Sure but it's B.S. to blame the loss completely on the refs. Do your job for 4 quarters and the game doesn't come down to 1 or 2 blown calls.

 

[gimpy]

Depends on "if" the calls were intentionally made, then you can blame the loss on ref's.

I'm not saying that is what happened here. And I'm not complaining about the officiating.
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[GuernseyCard]

There is a fascinating article by Peter King about officiating. He was allowed to follow an officiating team very closely. In the first segment the referee reviews the comments the league made about his officiating in a Cardinal's game. I found it on twitter.

???

Where's the article?

 

[GuernseyCard]

Yes...you sure can but so what? I have no problem with people complaining about the Refs but don't go blaming the loss on that. We had opportunities and didn't take advantage of them. Was it a factor? Sure but it's B.S. to blame the loss completely on the refs. Do your job for 4 quarters and the game doesn't come down to 1 or 2 blown calls.

The fact remains that with over two minutes left on the clock, timeouts available, we were jobbed out of at least an opportunity to tie the game.

 

[Covert Rain]

The fact remains that with over two minutes left on the clock, timeouts available, we were jobbed out of at least an opportunity to tie the game.

I don't dispute that and agree 100%.

 

[NJCardFan]

Yes...you sure can but so what? I have no problem with people complaining about the Refs but don't go blaming the loss on that. We had opportunities and didn't take advantage of them. Was it a factor? Sure but it's B.S. to blame the loss completely on the refs. Do your job for 4 quarters and the game doesn't come down to 1 or 2 blown calls.

Teams make mistakes. It's a part of football but we seen it many times where a team comes out flat and picks it up in the 2nd half and ends up winning. Look at the KC/Denver game. KC was dominating both sides of the ball then Manning shook off the cobwebs and fed KC their lunch. And we all know that breaks happen. Again, it's football. Also, no one would be complaining if the officiating went both ways. Yes there were a couple of calls that went against Philly but they benefited greatly by the blown/non calls. Yes the Cards still have to make plays but in a game where the Cards need all the breaks they can get, to snatch away those breaks on questionable calls it's annoying. Hell, like I said, even the opitome of homerism on Philly sports talk radio said the Eagles benefited from questionable calls and here's a story from the Daily News: http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-03/sports/44662203_1_bruce-arians-nick-foles-honey-badger So, if their own media is admitting that there has to be some merit to it.

 

[Paso Fino]

???

Where's the article?

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/12/04/peter-king-spends-week-with-nfl-refs/

 

[Duckjake]

If you bitch at the refs enough and do it the right way eventually the calls start to go your way. I see this with basketball coaches all the time.

 

[conraddobler]

I really like BA.

Look there is only one way to fight this and that is to call them out on it in any legitimate way you can. Laying down for it won't work.

Document it well enough, long enough, in my opinion they'll have to let you into the club of teams where things go your way.

Trouble is they can then take it away at any key moment they chose to and if done more sporadically it's impossible to really fight.

What he's doing though will have an effect but it's not the solution.

Used to be that Vegas would never stand for this and can easily point it out because they have stats for everything.

It has to be obvious to them but if they do know about it then perversely they would have an interest in not saying anything as it would only help them to know and not let on.

There would have to be some kind of pattern to it for them to remain silent, a bettable pattern, all just my opinion.

 

[WildBB]

There would have to be some kind of pattern to it for them to remain silent, a bettable pattern, all just my opinion.

Pattern? Someone got PAID!

 

[jefftheshark]

I think I finally discovered what distracted the refs...

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JTS

 

[Darkside]

Nice pom poms.