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Can anybody think of another player that performed at Goldy’s level then fell off the edge of the world like this?

I really looks like he’s in his own head to me. He’s too young for it to be physical.


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Can anybody think of another player that performed at Goldy’s level then fell off the edge of the world like this?

I really looks like he’s in his own head to me. He’s too young for it to be physical.


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lovullo said that early in the season goldy's swing was off timing wise, he said lately it's been pitch selection
 

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When Goldy first came up he had the best plate discipline I’ve ever seen. He never swung at a bad pitch and he crushed mistakes over the middle of the plate.

He need a shrink.


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Can anybody think of another player that performed at Goldy’s level then fell off the edge of the world like this?

I really looks like he’s in his own head to me. He’s too young for it to be physical.


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It's not physical... Goldy has always been a "guesser." Guessers need to be nearly perfect and incredibly gifted at the plate in order to make last milli-second adjustments when they guess wrong.
Goldy is not a classically gifted hitter. He has always possessed an awkwardness at the plate. His swing has always been unconventional. But, he was always a master at pitch selection. He has averaged close to 100 walks a season and a near .400 OBP because of his ability to grind out walks, or, work counts to his favor where he has a higher chance of guessing correctly.
For some bizarre reason, he is completely off this season. And coupled with his awkwardness and unconventional swing - well, this is what we get. He rarely has guessed correctly this year and is now whiffing at an alarming rate. For his career, he averages a walk in every 16 plate appearances... This season, it's down to a walk in every 19 plate appearances.

Anyway... I'm convinced this isn't a physical issue at all...
 
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It's not physical... Goldy has always been a "guesser." Guessers need to be nearly perfect and incredibly gifted at the plate in order to make last milli-second adjustments when they guess wrong.
Goldy is not a classically gifted hitter. He has always possessed an awkwardness at the plate. His swing has always been unconventional. But, he was always a master at pitch selection. He has averaged close to 100 walks a season and a near .400 OBP because of his ability to grind out walks, or, work counts to his favor where he has a higher chance of guessing correctly.
For some bizarre reason, he is completely off this season. And coupled with his awkwardness and unconventional swing - well, this is what we get. He rarely has guessed correctly this year and is now whiffing at an alarming rate. For his career, he averages a walk in every 16 plate appearances... This season, it's down to a walk in every 19 plate appearances.

Anyway... I'm convinced this isn't a physical issues at all...
As I've posted, I have believed that Goldy's issue is physical -- namely eye/hand coordination. However, your detailed analysis is excellent, 82.

But isn't what you described physical? Awkward at the plate. Unconventional swing. And now that his reflexes are aging, it is catching up with him earlier than expected.
 

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As I've posted, I have believed that Goldy's issue is physical -- namely eye/hand coordination. However, your detailed analysis is excellent, 82.

But isn't what you described physical? Awkward at the plate. Unconventional swing. And now that his reflexes are aging, it is catching up with him earlier than expected.

I really don't believe so. He is far too young and he keeps himself in far too good of shape all year long, to be suffering from anything like a slow-down in reflexes...
His timing and his thought-process are completely off the rails. Who knows... part of me believes he may have tinkered with his swing and/or approach during the offseason, and whatever he is attempting to do isn't taking...
 

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I really don't believe so. He is far too young and he keeps himself in far too good of shape all year long, to be suffering from anything like a slow-down in reflexes...
His timing and his thought-process are completely off the rails. Who knows... part of me believes he may have tinkered with his swing and/or approach during the offseason, and whatever he is attempting to do isn't taking...

Again, timing is physical. Until I see that Goldy has been thoroughly examined at Schwartz Eye Clinic, the go-to eye doctor for the Diamondbacks, Suns, Mercury, and Coyotes, I cannot discount the possibility that his decline (which began last season) is caused by vision problems. Especially with Steve announcing that Goldy appears to not be seeing the ball as well as before.

Many people need glasses by their 30's. Heck, Schwartz is a team sponsor. It is staring the D-backs in the face. :)
 

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Again, timing is physical. Until I see that Goldy has been thoroughly examined at Schwartz Eye Clinic, the go-to eye doctor for the Diamondbacks, Suns, Mercury, and Coyotes, I cannot discount the possibility that his decline (which began last season) is caused by vision problems. Especially with Steve announcing that Goldy appears to not be seeing the ball as well as before.

Many people need glasses by their 30's. Heck, Schwartz is a team sponsor. It is staring the D-backs in the face. :)

Timing is physical in the sense that the output of proper timing is seen/experienced via a physical act (swinging a bat). However, what takes place before the physical act is all mental. And mentally, Goldy is mush right now...
 
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Timing is physical in the sense that the output of proper timing is seen/experienced via a physical act (swinging a bat). However, what takes place before the physical act is all mental. And mentally, Goldy is mush right now...
82, you didn't address the eyesight issue which dominated my post. And Steve's comments about Goldy not seeing the ball.

'Eyesight'. 'Not seeing the ball'. That ain't mental. :) And it is specific.
 

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Again, timing is physical. Until I see that Goldy has been thoroughly examined at Schwartz Eye Clinic, the go-to eye doctor for the Diamondbacks, Suns, Mercury, and Coyotes, I cannot discount the possibility that his decline (which began last season) is caused by vision problems. Especially with Steve announcing that Goldy appears to not be seeing the ball as well as before.

Many people need glasses by their 30's. Heck, Schwartz is a team sponsor. It is staring the D-backs in the face. :)
I would think/bet that they go through a thorough physical, including eyes and ears, at the start of each season. Now, if he has been told he could use some vision correction and opted not to, then I could go along with the poor vision theory. He seems fine in the field, however.
 

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82, you didn't address the eyesight issue which dominated my post. And Steve's comments about Goldy not seeing the ball.

'Eyesight'. 'Not seeing the ball'. That ain't mental. :) And it is specific.

Yea... At the start of each season, all players are put thru a complete physical, including a thorough check of the eyes. If Goldy was/is suffering from poor eyesight, it was definitely dealt with months ago.
 

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82, you didn't address the eyesight issue which dominated my post. And Steve's comments about Goldy not seeing the ball.

'Eyesight'. 'Not seeing the ball'. That ain't mental. :) And it is specific.

I totally understand your suspicion, it would make sense except that I just dont believe that Goldy is the kind of person who would not admit it if that was it. Goldy is the ultimate team guy, I think if he couldn't see properly he would do something about it. That would be a pretty easy fix and I'm sure he'd love to start hitting again.

Goldy just looks completely lost up there. I dont have an explanation.
 

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He seems fine in the field, however.
Catching a fastball from across the infield in that big 1B mitt is not the same as hitting pitches at various speeds with various curves and breaks from 60' 6" away with a bat, thrown by Pitchers who are trying to get him to miss. More than twenty pitches per game.

Why are the Press and fans in such denial about, once again, Steve Berthiaume (an experienced professional announcer with a history of saying what he sees), and not disputed by Bob Brenly (a former Catcher), pointing out that Goldy is just not seeing pitches as well?

Until the powers that be address the issue, there is no chance of our #3 hitter who can't drive in runs being resolved.
 

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Yea... At the start of each season, all players are put thru a complete physical, including a thorough check of the eyes. If Goldy was/is suffering from poor eyesight, it was definitely dealt with months ago.
Until I read or hear that from an authority, I am not accepting it as a resolution.

And even a routine eye exam from an optometrist is not the same as a thorough exam by an opthalmologist.

I know that from experience when an optometrist once told me that I had macular degeneration. Then a specialist at Barnett-Dulaney-Perkins eye clinic told me I don't and that optometrists have neither the experience nor authority to diagnose eye problems.

And I have cited the example of a former player, Carl Furillo, who was examined by an expert after his batting average dropped fifty points and was found to have dust particles in his eyes and, when resolved, added 97 points to his batting average with 90+ RBI's the following season.

Since when are denials and generalizations ever used to solve specific problems? I sincerely hope the D-backs organization isn't taking the same lackadaisical approach. Especially since nothing else has brought about a change since last season, except for a couple of swings earlier this season, then back to the "slump".
 

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Until I read or hear that from an authority, I am not accepting it as a resolution.

And even a routine eye exam from an optometrist is not the same as a thorough exam by an opthalmologist.

I know that from experience when an optometrist once told me that I had macular degeneration. Then a specialist at Barnett-Dulaney-Perkins eye clinic told me I don't and that optometrists have neither the experience nor authority to diagnose eye problems.

And I have cited the example of a former player, Carl Furillo, who was examined by an expert and found to have dust particles in his eyes and, when resolved, added 97 points to his batting average with 90+ RBI's the following season.

Since when are denials and generalizations ever used to solve specific problems? I sincerely hope the D-backs organization isn't taking the same lackadaisical approach as fans. Especially since nothing else has brought about a change since last season, except for a couple of swings earlier this season, then back to the "slump".

Whatever buddy... I would say the odds are far better that Goldy made some "adjustments" in his swing and/or approach at the plate in the offseason... And that is behind his current issues, not that he has suddenly suffered an issue with his eyesight.
Time will tell...
 

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Whatever buddy... I would say the odds are far better that Goldy made some "adjustments" in his swing and/or approach at the plate in the offseason... And that is behind his current issues, not that he has suddenly suffered an issue with his eyesight.
Time will tell...
I didn't want to keep this going but, c'mon, 82, generalizations are not addressing the problem.

It didn't start during the offseason. His "slump" was prevalent during last season.

And no one described his not seeing the ball as "suddenly".

As you said, time will tell. Or not.

I guess I've said all I can about the need to proactively address Goldy's issue and take it to the next level.

Hell, if you or I had chest pains, we'd do more than justify the status quo and make generalizations. Hopefully.
 

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Back to the D-backs/Dodgers series. I know that batting average isn't the only criteria for a hitting team, and that Peralta is resting, but out of the nine spots in the batting order tonight in Game 2 of 2, only two hitters are hitting above .232. Pollock and pitcher Corbin both at .308.

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Wow! Clutch hitting is the key.
 

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Back to the D-backs/Dodgers series. I know that batting average isn't the only criteria for a hitting team, and that Peralta is resting, but out of the nine spots in the batting order tonight in Game 2 of 2, only two hitters are hitting above .232. Pollock and pitcher Corbin both at .308.

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Wow! Clutch hitting is the key.
But how are the matchups against tonight's pitcher?

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But how are the matchups against tonight's pitcher?
'Good point. We'll find out as the game progresses.

And Corbin's ERA is 1.5 better than Wood's.

I see the 2-game sweep coming at Dodger Stadium.

Go D-backs!
 

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Nick Ahmed with an inside-the-park homer in the 1st against the lefty.

Souza flies out deep to LF. He's acclimating.
 

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Alex Avila, the lefty hitting Catcher, starting vs. the lefty Pitcher Wood. Gets a fast ball right down the middle and could only foul it off. Then he struck out with two runners on.

Why isn't Murphy in the lineup vs. the lefty?
 

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Sometimes I wonder about lineup decisions but then I remember I'm just a guy on his computer.
 
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