Arizona Team Ownership an Embarrassment to Sports (please keep away if offended)

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Where is Jerry Colangelo when you need him? He brought the fans of Arizona a CHAMPIONSHIP faster than any other franchise in baseball. He is the only owner that this state has ever had that has shown me a desire to be a champion. The Bidwills are great people. I'm not attacking their character. I would love to meet them, hang out and talk football. Their passion doesn't show. There is no excuse for being here 25 years with just two division titles. After they received the new stadium, they should have shown more. They are not winners. Period. Our recent coaching debacle is classic Same 'Ol Cardinals mentality.

Robert Sarver. Where do I begin with this guy? He trades players for cash. Trades guys like Rondo, Dang, Amare, Robinson and lets good players walk. He makes poor draft picks. He makes some very questionable moves and I don't think anyone roots for him. I haven't met anyone anyways that does. There is even a FB page called Robert Sarver Please Stop Destroying the Phoenix Suns that I am a part of.

Ken Kendrick. He continually bashes his players. Traded away Bauer. Traded away Drew. On edge with Upton. I don't disagree that trading those guys is bad but for crumbs? They do not spend money. They sign guys like Eric Chavez and give him 3 mil. Of all of our teams, this team has the best shot of becoming a contender. They do have a good farm system.

The Coyotes. I can't even tell you who the owner is. The NHL owns them. Their previous owner lost out on so much cash that he had to declare bankruptcy. This team was barely hanging on for dear life and was nearly sent packing. They have a solid team. They also have a good shot to win.

Overall, the citizens of Arizona deserve better. I hate our state just being labeled as a retirement state. Arizona is a great state. Born and raised here. I have EVERY RIGHT to state my opinion and facts. Most fans who attack me are not even from Arizona. Call me a troller, a negative nelly, I don't care. Call me an *******, a jerk, I don't care. I love my homestate and I'm not happy about my teams' direction. I will always root for my home teams but I will also tell it like it is. Is it ever going to change? I sure hope so. How much of it is really our fault? Doesn't it start at the top? Are the fans totally to blame?
 

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The Coyotes. I can't even tell you who the owner is. The NHL owns them. Their previous owner lost out on so much cash that he had to declare bankruptcy. This team was barely hanging on for dear life and was nearly sent packing. They have a solid team. They also have a good shot to win.

Maybe you should wander over to the Yotes forum and check. Jamison has the makings of being a great owner.
 

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Where is Jerry Colangelo when you need him? He brought the fans of Arizona a CHAMPIONSHIP faster than any other franchise in baseball. He is the only owner that this state has ever had that has shown me a desire to be a champion. The Bidwills are great people. I'm not attacking their character. I would love to meet them, hang out and talk football. Their passion doesn't show. There is no excuse for being here 25 years with just two division titles. After they received the new stadium, they should have shown more. They are not winners. Period. Our recent coaching debacle is classic Same 'Ol Cardinals mentality.

Robert Sarver. Where do I begin with this guy? He trades players for cash. Trades guys like Rondo, Dang, Amare, Robinson and lets good players walk. He makes poor draft picks. He makes some very questionable moves and I don't think anyone roots for him. I haven't met anyone anyways that does. There is even a FB page called Robert Sarver Please Stop Destroying the Phoenix Suns that I am a part of.

Ken Kendrick. He continually bashes his players. Traded away Bauer. Traded away Drew. On edge with Upton. I don't disagree that trading those guys is bad but for crumbs? They do not spend money. They sign guys like Eric Chavez and give him 3 mil. Of all of our teams, this team has the best shot of becoming a contender. They do have a good farm system.

The Coyotes. I can't even tell you who the owner is. The NHL owns them. Their previous owner lost out on so much cash that he had to declare bankruptcy. This team was barely hanging on for dear life and was nearly sent packing. They have a solid team. They also have a good shot to win.

Overall, the citizens of Arizona deserve better. I hate our state just being labeled as a retirement state. Arizona is a great state. Born and raised here. I have EVERY RIGHT to state my opinion and facts. Most fans who attack me are not even from Arizona. Call me a troller, a negative nelly, I don't care. Call me an *******, a jerk, I don't care. I love my homestate and I'm not happy about my teams' direction. I will always root for my home teams but I will also tell it like it is. Is it ever going to change? I sure hope so. How much of it is really our fault? Doesn't it start at the top? Are the fans totally to blame?

Whoa buddy, that whole you have to be from Arizona crap to speak out against you is bunk and I hope you understand that. I have been a Cardinal fan since 1975, I have been a die hard fan and I have had a wealth of more pain and those rare overwhelming moments of triumph when the Cardinals do something good than you have yet to experience. You have every right to state your emotion, but be wary of what fans you might be singling out, be it intentional or not The whole "please keep away if offended'' in the title comes across as a sly way of presenting a calling card to rumble, and I hope you know that too :D
 
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Whoa buddy, that whole you have to be from Arizona crap to speak out against you is bunk and I hope you understand that. I have been a Cardinal fan since 1975, I have been a die hard fan and I have had a wealth of more pain and those rare overwhelming moments of triumph when the Cardinals do something good than you have yet to experience. You have every right to state your emotion, but be wary of what fans you might be singling out, be it intentional or not The whole "please keep away if offended'' in the title is just comes across as a sly way of presenting a calling card to rumble, and I hope you know that too :D

That is because he is trolling. He only posts to bash ownership, which is why the main board banned him.
 

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That is because he is trolling. He only posts to bash ownership, which is why the main board banned him.

I'm also a little wary of people who have to tell you what they are in their forum name to justify what they are...'TruCard'. That in itself is a lecture to others and would be my first pick of finding a fickle fan on the most elementary level of a game of Clue LOL
 

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Where is Jerry Colangelo when you need him? He brought the fans of Arizona a CHAMPIONSHIP faster than any other franchise in baseball. He is the only owner that this state has ever had that has shown me a desire to be a champion. The Bidwills are great people. I'm not attacking their character. I would love to meet them, hang out and talk football. Their passion doesn't show. There is no excuse for being here 25 years with just two division titles. After they received the new stadium, they should have shown more. They are not winners. Period. Our recent coaching debacle is classic Same 'Ol Cardinals mentality.

Robert Sarver. Where do I begin with this guy? He trades players for cash. Trades guys like Rondo, Dang, Amare, Robinson and lets good players walk. He makes poor draft picks. He makes some very questionable moves and I don't think anyone roots for him. I haven't met anyone anyways that does. There is even a FB page called Robert Sarver Please Stop Destroying the Phoenix Suns that I am a part of.

Ken Kendrick. He continually bashes his players. Traded away Bauer. Traded away Drew. On edge with Upton. I don't disagree that trading those guys is bad but for crumbs? They do not spend money. They sign guys like Eric Chavez and give him 3 mil. Of all of our teams, this team has the best shot of becoming a contender. They do have a good farm system.

The Coyotes. I can't even tell you who the owner is. The NHL owns them. Their previous owner lost out on so much cash that he had to declare bankruptcy. This team was barely hanging on for dear life and was nearly sent packing. They have a solid team. They also have a good shot to win.

Overall, the citizens of Arizona deserve better. I hate our state just being labeled as a retirement state. Arizona is a great state. Born and raised here. I have EVERY RIGHT to state my opinion and facts. Most fans who attack me are not even from Arizona. Call me a troller, a negative nelly, I don't care. Call me an *******, a jerk, I don't care. I love my homestate and I'm not happy about my teams' direction. I will always root for my home teams but I will also tell it like it is. Is it ever going to change? I sure hope so. How much of it is really our fault? Doesn't it start at the top? Are the fans totally to blame?

And how did the great AZ. fans thank Colangelo? By staying away from the stadium in droves the very next year after winning the World Series. JC went broke getting that Worlds Series title and put his whole soul and heart into it. The fans were not kind to him.
 

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Maybe you should wander over to the Yotes forum and check. Jamison has the makings of being a great owner.

If the Jamison thing works out and they can extend Tippett and Maloney, that team will be by far the best team in the state for years.
 
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That is because he is trolling. He only posts to bash ownership, which is why the main board banned him.
Yes, banned me. Why are you so obsessed with calling me a troller? Because I'm not a sugercoater who supports every move this team makes like you? Because I'm not an ass-kisser who says great move to everything they do? The "main" board couldn't handle the truth. I NEVER broke their rules. Many others went way further than me. When this team gives me something good to say, I will say it. I don't only want to point out the negative. If the Cardinals could give us something good to talk about, hell, I'm all for it. As for the "main" board, they suck. I'm glad to be a part of this forum. I'm glad to be able to express my feelings in these boards without crybabies criticizing me for everything I say, well, for the most part anyway. I noticed you're from Portland. When you have been born and raised here for over 36 years, then you can talk.
 

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"Please keep away if offended" says it all for me. I was extremely offended by that and so I didn't even bother to read the thread.
 

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Yes, banned me. Why are you so obsessed with calling me a troller? Because I'm not a sugercoater who supports every move this team makes like you? Because I'm not an ass-kisser who says great move to everything they do? The "main" board couldn't handle the truth. I NEVER broke their rules. Many others went way further than me. When this team gives me something good to say, I will say it. I don't only want to point out the negative. If the Cardinals could give us something good to talk about, hell, I'm all for it. As for the "main" board, they suck. I'm glad to be a part of this forum. I'm glad to be able to express my feelings in these boards without crybabies criticizing me for everything I say, well, for the most part anyway. I noticed you're from Portland. When you have been born and raised here for over 36 years, then you can talk.

Nice try, moved to Portland 4 month ago after living most of my life in Phoenix. My son and wife were both born in AZ. Had season tickets too.

As for you, all you do it post crap about how bad ownership is or how bad us fans are. You never add anything football related. You add nothing to this site other than a place to show you complete displeasure for the ownership, but yet you claim you are a real fan, but never talk plain football. If you did that, you wouldn't be called a troll.
 

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Where is Jerry Colangelo when you need him? He brought the fans of Arizona a CHAMPIONSHIP faster than any other franchise in baseball. He is the only owner that this state has ever had that has shown me a desire to be a champion. The Bidwills are great people. I'm not attacking their character. I would love to meet them, hang out and talk football. Their passion doesn't show. There is no excuse for being here 25 years with just two division titles. After they received the new stadium, they should have shown more. They are not winners. Period. Our recent coaching debacle is classic Same 'Ol Cardinals mentality.

Robert Sarver. Where do I begin with this guy? He trades players for cash. Trades guys like Rondo, Dang, Amare, Robinson and lets good players walk. He makes poor draft picks. He makes some very questionable moves and I don't think anyone roots for him. I haven't met anyone anyways that does. There is even a FB page called Robert Sarver Please Stop Destroying the Phoenix Suns that I am a part of.

Ken Kendrick. He continually bashes his players. Traded away Bauer. Traded away Drew. On edge with Upton. I don't disagree that trading those guys is bad but for crumbs? They do not spend money. They sign guys like Eric Chavez and give him 3 mil. Of all of our teams, this team has the best shot of becoming a contender. They do have a good farm system.

The Coyotes. I can't even tell you who the owner is. The NHL owns them. Their previous owner lost out on so much cash that he had to declare bankruptcy. This team was barely hanging on for dear life and was nearly sent packing. They have a solid team. They also have a good shot to win.

Overall, the citizens of Arizona deserve better. I hate our state just being labeled as a retirement state. Arizona is a great state. Born and raised here. I have EVERY RIGHT to state my opinion and facts. Most fans who attack me are not even from Arizona. Call me a troller, a negative nelly, I don't care. Call me an *******, a jerk, I don't care. I love my homestate and I'm not happy about my teams' direction. I will always root for my home teams but I will also tell it like it is. Is it ever going to change? I sure hope so. How much of it is really our fault? Doesn't it start at the top? Are the fans totally to blame?


You have no idea what you are talking about. Jerry C leveraged the future of the organization, we had a great run, that is also why we don't have a winning baseball team.

FYI - JC was the one who traded away the Bulls pick for Dang. Rondo was a late round pick, just like ... Dragic who was traded by San Antonio.

Kendrick - Drew is done his ankle and ego will never be repaired. Upton still is under performing and if you could have got that deal it would have been a great trade for both.. now maybe not so much.
 
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Nice try, moved to Portland 4 month ago after living most of my life in Phoenix. My son and wife were both born in AZ. Had season tickets too.

As for you, all you do it post crap about how bad ownership is or how bad us fans are. You never add anything football related. You add nothing to this site other than a place to show you complete displeasure for the ownership, but yet you claim you are a real fan, but never talk plain football. If you did that, you wouldn't be called a troll.
Never add anything football related? Dude, you should just stay away from my posts. I post every topic of concern. Here is one by the way, just in case you didn't notice. Since all YOU do is look to combat me with your troll obsession. I'm sure you have better things to do than to only post in my rant threads. http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/wanted-mobile-qb-190159.html?highlight=mobile+wanted
 
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I'm also a little wary of people who have to tell you what they are in their forum name to justify what they are...'TruCard'. That in itself is a lecture to others and would be my first pick of finding a fickle fan on the most elementary level of a game of Clue LOL
My only question to you is this. Who put the jockstrap in the weight room with a dumbell? lol
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Jerry C leveraged the future of the organization, we had a great run, that is also why we don't have a winning baseball team.

FYI - JC was the one who traded away the Bulls pick for Dang. Rondo was a late round pick, just like ... Dragic who was traded by San Antonio.

Kendrick - Drew is done his ankle and ego will never be repaired. Upton still is under performing and if you could have got that deal it would have been a great trade for both.. now maybe not so much.
The point is that JC made necessary sacrifices to have a good shot at winning it all. Not a sure fire title but for a CHANCE to win it all. We won it all. He said that it would take eight years to rebound financially from that run before the 01' season even started. It wasn't a surprise that we were financially screwed. In the end, we won a title and that's all that matters.
 

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Bryan Colangelo sucks just look at the Raptors. He was the one deciding to trade the #7 pick to the Bulls so they could sign Q-Richardson which snowballed to all the other bad trades that were a result of Qs contract.

Mike D'antoni is responsible for Rondo.

Blanks is the biggest joke in the Suns organisation.
 

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I have EVERY RIGHT to state my opinion and facts. Most fans who attack me are not even from Arizona. Call me a troller, a negative nelly, I don't care. Call me an *******, a jerk, I don't care. I love my homestate and I'm not happy about my teams' direction. I will always root for my home teams but I will also tell it like it is. Is it ever going to change? I sure hope so. How much of it is really our fault? Doesn't it start at the top? Are the fans totally to blame?


Arizona native.

Hopeful for the future. Should be fun to watch.

Sports is entertainment, try not to be so serious.

Fans attack you? from out of state?

Meh, either way - Go cardinals.
 

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Yes, banned me. Why are you so obsessed with calling me a troller? Because I'm not a sugercoater who supports every move this team makes like you? Because I'm not an ass-kisser who says great move to everything they do? The "main" board couldn't handle the truth. I NEVER broke their rules. Many others went way further than me. When this team gives me something good to say, I will say it. I don't only want to point out the negative. If the Cardinals could give us something good to talk about, hell, I'm all for it. As for the "main" board, they suck. I'm glad to be a part of this forum. I'm glad to be able to express my feelings in these boards without crybabies criticizing me for everything I say, well, for the most part anyway. I noticed you're from Portland. When you have been born and raised here for over 36 years, then you can talk.

Im born and raised in AZ but I dont think that makes me "A better fan" than someone else.
 

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Im born and raised in AZ but I dont think that makes me "A better fan" than someone else.

I was born and raised in NM. We didn't have any sports teams of our own, so I adopted the AZ teams. Can I be an honorary in-state fan?

:D
 

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I was born and raised in NM. We didn't have any sports teams of our own, so I adopted the AZ teams. Can I be an honorary in-state fan?

:D


Yes. I am annointing you as home grown fan from this point forward.

Now I require peanuts and beer.


Wait: (Puts "real fan" mask on)
"How can anyone from a state that has no football team say they are a football fan? I mean, I dont go to games but I can see the stadium if I drive down the 101. You can only see the stadium on google earth."
 

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And how did the great AZ. fans thank Colangelo? By staying away from the stadium in droves the very next year after winning the World Series.

40, what in the world are you talking about?

In 2001, the World Series year, the attendance figures were 33K per game, the next year it was 39k per game and the year after that it was 34K per game.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/dbacks3.shtml
 
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