Arizona Trade Rumors

[Dback Jon]

At this point, I'd trade him for the scraps of peanuts the Pitt ground crew cleans up after a game.

Realistically, though, I'd just say the hell with it and bring Bradley up to be the #5. He's certainly going to struggle. But can he be any worse than Kennedy / Cahill at this point?

Probably not, unless you are worried about rushing him up too quickly.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Problem is, to get those guys you'd have to give up some good prospects, which downgrades the team as a whole.

If we are going to give up good prospects, it needs to be for a SIGNIFICANT upgrade, not just a marginal one.

It would be a significant upgrade. Peavy vs IPK would be a gain of 2 in WAR even with Peavy having a poor year by his standards some of which I think could somewhat be attributed to him being on a sinking ship out there on the South Side. IPK has been that bad this year.

 

[Dback Jon]

It would be a significant upgrade. Peavy vs IPK would be a gain of 2 in WAR even with Peavy having a poor year by his standards some of which I think could somewhat be attributed to him being on a sinking ship out there on the South Side. IPK has been that bad this year.

If Peavy can stay healthy.

 

[devilalum]

At this point, I'd trade him for the scraps of peanuts the Pitt ground crew cleans up after a game.

Realistically, though, I'd just say the hell with it and bring Bradley up to be the #5. He's certainly going to struggle. But can he be any worse than Kennedy / Cahill at this point?

Yet Gibby anointed him the #1 starter after the break.

 

[JS22]

Yet Gibby anointed him the #1 starter after the break.

I generally like Gibby as a manager, but making Kennedy the #1 after the break is ridiculous.

Definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Kennedy has show that he is, at best, a 4 or 5 this year.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Mlbtraderumors.com mentioned thDbacks as possible spot for Matt Garza. I think he is better than Peavy. At least a little.

I'm really shaky about trading for Garza. Whilst I agree, he would be a better pickup than Peavy, he's also going to cost more as a free agent; and wants paid this off-season. Thus, I'm really not fond of the idea of surrendering top prospects for a guy who very realistically may wind up walking in the winter.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Problem is, to get those guys you'd have to give up some good prospects, which downgrades the team as a whole.

If we are going to give up good prospects, it needs to be for a SIGNIFICANT upgrade, not just a marginal one.

I really don't think there's a pitcher out there who is available that would fit the mold of "siginifcant upgrade," for both the here and now and long term. Cliff Lee would be for the NOW, but not the long term in my opinion. Only one I think that MIGHT fit that mold is Jeff jeff Samardzija... Or MAYBE Gallardo at his best.

 

[BC867]

I generally like Gibby as a manager, but making Kennedy the #1 after the break is ridiculous.

I believe that Corbin will be starting the 5th game after the All Star break, to give him a rest.

That means he will be starting in the rotation directly ahead of Kennedy from now on. I'll accept that as moving Corbin to the head of the rotation, without the pressure of being called #1.

Until the post-season, that is.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I really don't think there's a pitcher out there who is available that would fit the mold of "siginifcant upgrade," for both the here and now and long term. Cliff Lee would be for the NOW, but not the long term in my opinion. Only one I think that MIGHT fit that mold is Jeff Samardzija... Or MAYBE Gallardo at his best.

I change my tune.

Grumblings out of Chicago are Chris Sale could be had for the proper price. THAT'D be a siginificant upgrade to the staff.

 

[Phrazbit]

It would be a significant upgrade. Peavy vs IPK would be a gain of 2 in WAR even with Peavy having a poor year by his standards some of which I think could somewhat be attributed to him being on a sinking ship out there on the South Side. IPK has been that bad this year.

But we wouldnt be replacing Kennedy, it would be Skaggs or Delgado that gets bumped.

So far I feel like Towers has whiffed on every high dollar move, via trade or free agency. I really dont want us to bring in another one of his San Diego guys on the prayer that he will magically return to previous form.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Hearing the DBacks and Mets have engaged in discussions. Bobby Parnell, Dillon Gee and Lucas Duda are the ones AZ reportedly inquired on. While it's doubtful that all three would be had in a package, Duda and either Parnell or Gee would be nice pickups without crippling the farm.

 

[Lefty]

I want Kubel gone.

 

[BC867]

I want Kubel gone.

A healthy Kubel would be a benefit to a post-season contender.

But Kubel is not healthy and . . .

Being that we are stuck with Cody Ross, at least one of them should go.

 

[Gaddabout]

Parnell is interesting. He's 29 with a slightly above-average WAR for a reliever. He's not a Top 10 guy, but he's quality and you have a good idea he's not going to suddenly wash out.

Be very curious what the D-Backs might offer in return, though. You have to abide the rule to never trade starting pitching for relief. It just never ends well.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hearing the DBacks and Mets have engaged in discussions. Bobby Parnell, Dillon Gee and Lucas Duda are the ones AZ reportedly inquired on. While it's doubtful that all three would be had in a package, Duda and either Parnell or Gee would be nice pickups without crippling the farm.

Duda is useless... Parnell would be a terrific pickup and Gee is a very solid middle of the oration guy. Just wonder what we would have to cough up on return...

 

[jonberry]

Hearing the DBacks and Mets have engaged in discussions. Bobby Parnell, Dillon Gee and Lucas Duda are the ones AZ reportedly inquired on. While it's doubtful that all three would be had in a package, Duda and either Parnell or Gee would be nice pickups without crippling the farm.

Is this the same source that told you a deal between the Phillies and Tigers for Papelbon was 'consummated'?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Parnell is interesting. He's 29 with a slightly above-average WAR for a reliever. He's not a Top 10 guy, but he's quality and you have a good idea he's not going to suddenly wash out.

Be very curious what the D-Backs might offer in return, though. You have to abide the rule to never trade starting pitching for relief. It just never ends well.

From what I'm gathering, David Holmberg, Chris Owings and Stryker Trahan would be the best prospects York would ask for and KT won't part with the big 2, as he shouldn't. This might make some breathe easy as it's not involving either Bradley or Skaggs. I'm pretty high on Trahan though, and think Holmberg is pretty vastly underrated. I guess get something to give it.

It's all preliminary now but interesting possibility none the less.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Is this the same source that told you a deal between the Phillies and Tigers for Papelbon was 'consummated'?

I'm glad my post made you come out of a two month hiatus

 

[Diamondback Jay]

The Papelbon-Ruiz to Detroit deal was something a few people had discussed on Facebook as being "done" and it turned out to be crap.

Check my post about the failed Upton to Seattle deal. It's not always inaccurate. Teams talk at the deadline. Nothing's concrete. However, I figured being it involved the Diamondbacks and they're looking at three players that fit some needs, it'd be worth mentioning.

 

[jonberry]

The Papelbon-Ruiz to Detroit deal was something a few people had discussed on Facebook as being "done" and it turned out to be crap.

Check my post about the failed Upton to Seattle deal. It's not always inaccurate. Teams talk at the deadline. Nothing's concrete. However, I figured being it involved the Diamondbacks and they're looking at three players that fit some needs, it'd be worth mentioning.

Except in the case of your Upton deal, news had already been reported a hour and a half earlier. That took less than 2 minutes to find. For this and your Papelbon report, there is nothing that even comes up. If there where a few sites that mentioned it, I would give you the benefit of the doubt. During the trade deadline when there is more bull**** thrown out than actual rumors, I won't give the benefit of the doubt.

Just a tip, don't use facebook as a source. It will come back to bite you in the ass.

 

[overseascardfan]

From what I'm gathering, David Holmberg, Chris Owings and Stryker Trahan would be the best prospects York would ask for and KT won't part with the big 2, as he shouldn't. This might make some breathe easy as it's not involving either Bradley or Skaggs. I'm pretty high on Trahan though, and think Holmberg is pretty vastly underrated. I guess get something to give it.

It's all preliminary now but interesting possibility none the less.

Would not be happy if ARZ had to part with any of those 3. Trahan will replace Montero in a couple of years, Holmberg is left handed power pitcher (can never have enough of them) & Owings I feel will replace Hill at 2B in a couple of years.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Except in the case of your Upton deal, news had already been reported a hour and a half earlier. That took less than 2 minutes to find. For this and your Papelbon report, there is nothing that even comes up. If there where a few sites that mentioned it, I would give you the benefit of the doubt. During the trade deadline when there is more bull**** thrown out than actual rumors, I won't give the benefit of the doubt.

Just a tip, don't use facebook as a source. It will come back to bite you in the ass.

I learned my lesson on the Papelbon deal via Facebook not to use that as a credible source, even if several people are citing it. I made one mistake, one mistake only and didn't follow up to see if this deal had any leeway.

As for buying it, you're welcome to take it at face value or not.. Either way. I'm just here to talk the Diamondbacks, and when I hear stuff, I'll discuss it. If the rumor and talks gain traction and go past the "discussion" floor, cool.. It's not crap thrown at a wall, if I was doing that, I'd come up with better and more unrealistic names that Arizona is looking at than Bobby Parnell, Lucas Duda and Dillon Gee.

 

[bankybruce]

Aside from a few writers on Twitter, http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ is the only place I trust. If it is posted here without a link, I go there to see if it is true.

 

[devilalum]

From Peter Gammons

Arizona has been shopping Ian Kennedy and Jason Kubel, which wouldn't free enough $ to get Kevin Towers' fave Jake Peavy

 

[82CardsGrad]

From Peter Gammons

I wouldn't be surprised if we unloaded those two and received only young, unproven talent. I can't imagine Kubel and Kennedy will net much, if anything at all in the way of proven major league talent...