Armpit no more??

[BACH]

Read this article on PFT and couldn't help but laugh at Rice's comment that he will produce if he continues his career with the Cards. I knoe it's somewhat take out of context, but I just find it funny.

BUCS QUIETLY TOLERATING RICE'S MOUTH, MONEY

Last season, Tampa defensive end Simeon Rice sounded off about a lack of discipline under coach Jon Gruden, attributing the 2002 Super Bowl win in large part to the lingering influence of former head coach Tony Dungy.

Gruden responded at the time with a mealy-mouthed, "He said what he said, but Simeon doesn't speak for the whole team, OK?"

Less than a year later, Rice is still running his yap publicly, at a time when his $10.7 million cap number likely is making the team regret the big-money extension he received following the team's championship season.

But the team continues to put up with both the money, and the mouth.

In reference to his eight-figure cap value, Rice says, "It's supposed to be -- don't get twisted, it's supposed to be high. I came here and I took a big pay cut. I came here on nothing. I came here just out of respect, and I still haven't gotten the respect I truly deserve, but I got the respect of money and I can walk away and say that's cool."

Meanwhile, the Bucs have been trying repeatedly to reduce Rice's cap hit through negotiations, to no avail.

"We have a few contracts that have been signed that we had to live with and hope we get some outstanding performances out of the players," G.M. Bruce Allen said.

By the way, Rice is hoping to churn out an outstanding performance this year. Just like former teammate Warren Sapp several years back, Rice wants to break the all-time sack record, which currently stands at 21.5 plus 1.0 prison shower room love scenes between Mike Strahan and Brett Favre.

Still, Rice recognizes that, given his contract, this could be his last year in Tampa. "It's a revolving door is what it is. The beauty of it is that my greatness doesn't depend on what helmet I wear.

"I'm going to be great wherever I can be great, whether it's here, back in Arizona or in San Diego."

In our opinion, the Bucs have allowed themselves to get caught up in the Randy Moss trap when it comes to their handling of Rice. Like the pre-February 2005 Vikings and their former game-breaking receiver, Tampa Bay seems to be committed to the notion that Rice is indispensable to the team, and that as a result they need to put up with his words and attitudes.

The problem is that, as the Vikings eventually realized, Rice's recklessly disruptive, self-centered approach is keeping the rest of the roster from being as good as it can be. Though, for example, we agree with Rice's message from last season regarding the absence of discipline in Tampa, those words should have been articulated behind closed doors, not in the media.

Roughly six months later, Rice remains unrepentant. "It wasn't a mistake, my ad- libbing was still thought out. If I can't speak the truth, I might as well not speak. In the role that I'm cast in the NFL, I'm not a great good guy. I'm a better bad guy, and I can live with that."

Unfortunately for the true fans of the Bucs, the organization has opted to live with it, too.

 

[Scott MS]

Simeon still lives in Arizona, from what I understand.

The Cards don't need a defensive end (one of the few positions they are really stacked) and I doubt they would consider dealing with Rice again.

 

[vince56]

Can we get the Vader yell from the end of Episode III tapped in here?

"Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!"

 

[blindseyed]

I still hate that whiney, classless beyatch...glad he's gone

 

[Tony W]

Stir "Fried" Rice

He has to "fried" to think anyone hear wants him back in a Cardinal uniform. Why are we even entertaining this fool?!?!?!??!

 

[slanidrac16]

Rice couldn't carry Berry's dirty game socks. Nuf said.

 

[Scott MS]

Rice is doing the same things in Tampa that he did in Arizona. It looks like the issue was the player, not the "armpit" organization.

 

[100%CardsFan]

He might be a ***** but he still is a damm good DE

 

[ajcardfan]

He might be a ***** but he still is a damm good DE

When he wants to be, yes. But, I don't think anyone wants to see his selective effort anymore. He flat out dogged it in the game here last year. Our best players now, Berry, Boldin, Wilson, etc. play hard all the time. He and Gruden deserve each other.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

He might be a ***** but he still is a damm good DE

And while he has improved a bit.. he still gets his ass handed to him on the run frequently.

 

[phillycard]

When he wants to be, yes. But, I don't think anyone wants to see his selective effort anymore. He flat out dogged it in the game here last year. Our best players now, Berry, Boldin, Wilson, etc. play hard all the time. He and Gruden deserve each other.

Great point AJ.

 

[duckfallas]

Rice is dreaming if he thinks he will every play for the Cardinals again. He is exactly the opposite of the type of player Green is bringing in here.

 

[slanidrac16]

He's a 1 demensional player who plays when he damn well feels like it. To me that is not the definition of a "good" player.
He's arrogant and is really full of himself. He benefitted greatly when he had Sapp playing next to him.

As it turns out he puts the "stink" in armpit.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Did Rice even suit up against AZ last year? I don't ever rememeber hearing his name? Oh yeah, now i rememeber. I heard is name in the post game interviews when he talked about how much better the Cards were then the bucs. I hate him.

 

[RedStorm]

Simeon still lives in Arizona, from what I understand.

The Cards don't need a defensive end (one of the few positions they are really stacked) and I doubt they would consider dealing with Rice again.

We should bring him in then cut him. Maybe someone can take him out at the knees. Just a thought

 

[8ndkorner]

Rice is dreaming if he thinks he will every play for the Cardinals again. He is exactly the opposite of the type of player Green is bringing in here.

Let's not forget the way he slammed Pat Tillman also. He better think twice about returning to AZ.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

He might be a ***** but he still is a damm good DE

Under what reasoning?


The offense can either pass OR run. There are 2 parts to it. Rice can rush the passer, but against the run he is driven at least 5 yards back everytime.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

you all have waaay too much hatred. the dude became a complete player with the bucs. his mouth still runs too much, but his play has been awesome. sapp made him better and he made sapp better. but of course, none of you want to believe this. just like lj was worth a 2nd round pick. y'all are too skewed in your football "knowledge."

 

[Redsz]

I'm so glad you are here Ouchie, so you can tell us how wrong and ignorant we all are.

Where would we be without you?

 

[BACH]

I'm so glad you are here Ouchie, so you can tell us how wrong and ignorant we all are.

Where would we be without you?

 

[ajcardfan]

you all have waaay too much hatred. the dude became a complete player with the bucs. his mouth still runs too much, but his play has been awesome. sapp made him better and he made sapp better. but of course, none of you want to believe this. just like lj was worth a 2nd round pick. y'all are too skewed in your football "knowledge."

Yes, he's the most complete football player EVER. The way he lap danced for Reggie Wells in the game here last year was some very special football.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I'm so glad you are here Ouchie, so you can tell us how wrong and ignorant we all are.

Where would we be without you?

um, wallowing in wrongness and ignorance. lucky indeed!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yes, he's the most complete football player EVER. The way he lap danced for Reggie Wells in the game here last year was some very special football.

jesus christ, you guys with your exaggerations . . . i say he's complete and you all say he's the "most complete football player EVER." good god . . .

and even the best players don't always bring their A-game or excel in every game. but you're pointing how he performed against the cardinals just cements my opinion that you don't know anything outside of cardinals football . . . otherwise you'd realize how effective simeon has been in games against OTHER teams (but you don't watch those . . . do you?).

 

[ajcardfan]

jesus christ, you guys with your exaggerations . . . i say he's complete and you all say he's the "most complete football player EVER." good god . . .

and even the best players don't always bring their A-game or excel in every game. but you're pointing how he performed against the cardinals just cements my opinion that you don't know anything outside of cardinals football . . . otherwise you'd realize how effective simeon has been in games against OTHER teams (but you don't watch those . . . do you?).

Here, does this help..... Now, were your 8th gradish insults really necessary?


Read my post in #9 of this thread. Yes, smart aleck, I know he's very good. I also know, and I'm sure you know too watching all those games, he takes plays and games off. The guy got a bonus 4X's bigger than Berry. I'd like to see players play hard every play when they get that much money. Actually, I like to see anyone play hard every play. He can get four sacks in one game, and 1 assited tackle in the next. I'm not impressed by that. If you are, well, whoop-de-doo, enjoy watching all 16 Tampa games this year.

 

[1DS]

Simeon is a good football player. He is excellent at rushing the passer and average at best at stopping the run. He got better at stopping the run when he went to TB. All that being said, I can't stand the guy.

Good football player? yes.


Good team player? no.