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Okay, it's early in the morning, but it's just a thought.

Any possiblity of the Suns trading James Jones (back again) and Jim Jackson (plus perhaps a pick or whatever) to the Pacers for Ron Artest and then trading Artest in a three way trade to another team for a big man.

I'm thinking JR has to be looking alot better than Artest to the Pacers.

Please, no laughter. :)
 

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Mainstreet said:
Okay, it's early in the morning, but it's just a thought.

Any possiblity of the Suns trading James Jones (back again) and Jim Jackson (plus perhaps a pick or whatever) to the Pacers for Ron Artest and then trading Artest in a three way trade to another team for a big man.

I'm thinking JR has to be looking alot better than Artest to the Pacers.

Please, no laughter. :)

its an idea....BUT....

we would most likely have to package a first rounder in the deal for artest. then pawning off artest for a big man would end up costing us Jones/Jackson/First Rounder....which is something i wouldnt necessarily want to do. besides, artest trade value is declining by the minute. he is seen as more of a headcase and chemistry killer with what he's doing to BLOCK trades.

BTW....who would you have in mind?
 

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The Sacramento trade might not be quite over. Artest has now stated that he'll play anywhere. The Maloofs want to talk with Artest first, and then decide whether or not to do the trade.
 

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Updated: Jan. 25, 2006, 6:34 PM ET
Pacers: Artest-for-Peja deal finally done


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The trade that almost wasn't is finally happening. The Kings and Pacers have both signed off on a deal that will send Ron Artest to Sacramento and Peja Stojakovic to Indiana, the Pacers announced Thursday.

"Obviously, we're very happy about getting a player of his caliber," said Larry Bird, President of Basketball Operations for Indiana. "[Peja's] one of the best shooters in the league and we definitely feel he can come in and help us right away. We think he'll fit in with our team because he'll help spread the floor and give our big men better opportunities to score."

ESPN's Stephen A. Smith reports that Artest is boarding a plane for Boston and he will be in a Kings uniform Friday night against the Celtics.

"We wish Ron the best at Sacramento," said Pacers CEO/President Donnie Walsh. "There's no doubt in our mind he'll have an immediate impact on their team. We'll miss him very much. We know this has been a long process for our fans, but we have a player we think our fans will enjoy watching."

Artest met Wednesday with Pacers officials to discuss a possible trade to the Kings after a deal for Stojakovic collapsed on Tuesday night.

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[SIZE=-2]Artest[/SIZE]"They said they were going to try to get something sorted out to get the trade done," Artest told the Indianapolis Star by phone as he drove away from the meeting at Conseco Fieldhouse. Artest told the Star it was a good meeting.
However, ESPN's Jim Gray and Smith reported Wednesday after the meeting that Artest had agreed to be traded. Gray reported that Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof talked to Artest and planned to talk to him again before finalizing any trade.
On Tuesday, his agent was more guarded about the prospect of Artest playing in Sacramento.
"In the last month, Ron Artest has been vehemently portrayed in an unflattering manner in the media, specifically in the aftermath of requesting a trade, even after it was made clear that he only spoke out because he believed the Pacers were going to trade him to Sacramento, a place he did not want to go to," Mark Stevens said in a statement to Smith on Tuesday night. "Now it has become evident that this trade was not merely speculation but something that has been at least discussed for quite some time.
"Ron Artest did not want to be traded to Sacramento weeks ago, and he does not want to be traded to Sacramento now.
"Basketball is Ron Artest's passion. In order for Ron to fully demonstrate his natural skills and abilities, to the best of his abilities, he not only must be in an environment that is conducive to his growth an development as a player, he must also ensure that his family is happy and content as well. Ron does not believe that will be the case if he were in Sacramento. Period. However, as mentioned earlier, Ron is deeply committed to the sport of basketball and desperately misses playing the game he loves. If the trade is made he will play for his new team, regardless of how he may feel about it."

OTL: CALLING THE SHOTSJust about the time last month the Philadelphia Eagles' season was settling into irrelevancy, with Terrell Owens suspended and deactivated, Ron Artest demanded his trade from the Indiana Pacers. It took six weeks for the Pacers to strike a deal -- one Artest originally balked at. Outside the Lines parallels the fates of two talented stars raging against the establishment to achieve their individual goals. (ESPN, 1:40 a.m. ET/10:40 p.m. PT).
Stevens told ESPN's Greg Anthony that he thought Artest needed a stable situation with strong leadership, and that the uncertainty about both Kings coach Rick Adelman's future and the Kings' future in Sacramento indicated a lack of stability that would be uncomfortable for Artest. Likewise, National Basketball Players Association executive director Billy Hunter told Anthony that Artest had not refused to report to Sacramento, although he had told Hunter of his reservations about the potential trade. Hunter expressed concern about reports that the Pacers might attempt to suspend Artest for playing a role in the Kings' rejection of the trade. Hunter told Anthony that Artest was not culpable for the possible dissolution of the deal because he had expressed that he would accept the trade.
The Pacers and Kings were close to a deal Tuesday, and Stojakovic stayed at the team hotel in Philadelphia when it appeared the trade would be finalized. But a source with inner knowledge of the day's events told Sheridan a call from Stevens to the Kings gave them second thoughts about pulling the trigger, and the deal was temporarily shelved.
"The way I was treated today, I was disappointed," Stojakovic told ESPN.com in Philadelphia. "I feel kind of disrespected with the way I found out. Thank God they have TVs here. I understand being traded, but this situation is weird. I had already planned my flight back to Sacramento, and now everything is reversed.
"I guess this is just a business, but the way I was told and the way I found out, I feel I deserved better from [Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof]. Anybody can get traded in the NBA, but the way I found out, it was disrespectful. I deserve better after seven and a half years."

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The way I was treated today, I was disappointed. I feel kind of disrespected with the way I found out.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Times,serif][/FONT][FONT=Times,serif]Peja Stojakovic[/FONT]Stojakovic rode the team bus on the two-hour trip to New York after arriving by limo at the Wachovia Center during the second half of Sacramento's 109-103 loss to Philadelphia. He attended the team meeting on Wednesday morning as the Kings prepared to face the New York Knicks.
A source told Sheridan that the efforts to rekindle the deal were ongoing Wednesday and extended all the way to the ownership level on both teams.
Artest, who is due to make $7.15 million next season and $7.8 million in 2007-08, was a key component to a team that was expected to challenge for the Eastern Conference crown. He led the league in steals and was the Pacers' second-leading scorer at 19.4 points a game before being deactivated after publicly requesting a trade in early December.
Stojakovic has been having an unproductive, injury-hampered season for the last-place Kings, whose loss Tuesday was their third in a row. Stojakovic's scoring average is down almost eight points from his All-Star level of two years ago, and the Kings are at risk of losing him with nothing in return when he becomes an unrestricted free agent this summer.
Indiana has been holding out for more than six weeks for an offer that it deems acceptable. A proposed swap for Corey Maggette fell through because of the Pacers' concerns over Maggette's foot injury, and talks with several other Western Conference teams failed to produce a deal that pleased all parties.
 

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Artest agrees to deal with Kings
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Posted: 5 minutes ago

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - The Indiana Pacers traded volatile forward Ron Artest to the Sacramento Kings for Peja Stojakovic on Wednesday, a day after a deal between the teams all but fell apart.

Artest reportedly balked at being dealt to the Kings, but met with Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh on Wednesday at Conseco Fieldhouse and apparently agreed to go to Sacramento.

The trade ends a lengthy standoff between the Pacers and Artest, who was deactivated in December after requesting a trade and was suspended most of last season for his role in one of the worst brawls in U.S. sports history.

"Obviously, we're very happy about getting a player of (Stojakovic's) caliber," Pacers president Larry Bird said in a statement. "He's one of the best shooters in the league and we definitely feel he can help us right away."

Indiana spent several weeks searching for the right deal, nearly sending Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for Corey Maggette before reviving talks with the Kings in recent days.

This trade has been rumored for three years, with the Kings thought to need Artest's defense just as much as the Pacers need Stojakovic's offense.

Artest is due to make $7.15 million next season and $7.8 million in 2007-08, with an $8.45 million player option for 2008-09. His defensive presence and infamous instability should be an intriguing fit with the Kings, whose franchise makeover now has a more defensive look.

Artest spent parts of six seasons with the Pacers, earning an All-Star berth and recognition as the NBA's defensive player of the year in 2003-04. He led the league in steals and averaged 19.4 points per game this season before his trade request and subsequent deactivation.

He was suspended for last season's final 73 games and the playoffs after he charged into the stands during a game at Detroit, precipitating one of the nastiest brawls in league history. The incident was the crowning touch on one of the NBA's most controversial reputations, and the Pacers finally gave up on their extensive efforts to support him after his trade request.

Stojakovic is the Kings' longest-tenured player, joining the club as an unheralded 21-year-old rookie in 1998 and becoming a three-time All-Star. But he is expected to void the final season of his contract to become a free agent this summer, and Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie decided to get something in return for his most successful draft pick.

Sacramento made its fourth major trade in 13 months, following deals involving Chris Webber, Bobby Jackson and Doug Christie.

Stojakovic seemed likely to earn a hefty contract when he became a free agent after declining his $8.2 million option for next season, perhaps getting the maximum deal. Instead, this season has been dismal for the Serbian star.

He is averaging just 16.5 points per game, his lowest total since his second NBA season, while making just 40.3 percent of his shots - lowest since his rookie year - along with 5.3 rebounds and 2.2 assists.

He has been bothered by a sprained finger, a strained groin muscle and a protruding disc in his lower back which hinders his running, jumping and shooting. He has missed eight games because of the injuries, including three straight earlier this month before receiving a cortisone shot.

The Pacers have struggled without Artest. They were 10-6 in games he played and are 11-14 without him, losing five of their last six - including a 30-point loss to Cleveland on Tuesday night. Jermaine O'Neal has hinted that players might be concerned about possibly getting traded along with Artest, and it could be affecting their performance.

Enjoy! My take? Sacramento just got worse and Indianapolis got a lot better! ;)
 

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At least he will be playing against Kobe more and that should help the Suns.
 

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sunsfn said:
Updated: Jan. 25, 2006, 6:34 PM ET
Pacers: Artest-for-Peja deal finally done


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The trade that almost wasn't is finally happening. The Kings and Pacers have both signed off on a deal that will send Ron Artest to Sacramento and Peja Stojakovic to Indiana, the Pacers announced Thursday.

Thursday? Somebody's messing with our minds.
 

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Yuma said:
Enjoy! My take? Sacramento just got worse and Indianapolis got a lot better! ;)

I think they both get better, depending upon Ron's demeanor, of course. Peja doesn't have the skills to be the focal point in an offense. In Sacramento, he was 1A with Mike Bibby. Peja is better suited as a complimentary player. In Indiana he will be the number 2 option at highest, possibly number 3.

In Artest, Sacramento is getting a proven defensive stopper, something they've desperately needed since Christie's game deteriorated. He's also a decent offensive player.
 

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Eric, "So when all that happens, you can say I called it."

Eric you called it! Just a smidgen off on a detail or two... I mean, 1/40 isn't really that bad... it's almost 9/35 - 'almost' is a symmetric relation, you know. If it was transitive, too, a little time and effort would get it all the way up to 99/100.
 

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"We wish Ron the best at Sacramento," said Pacers CEO/President Donnie Walsh. "There's no doubt in our mind he'll have an immediate impact on their team. We'll miss him very much. We know this has been a long process for our fans, but we have a player we think our fans will enjoy watching."

Is this a back handed comment?
 

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nm132 said:
Even if Artest works out, I don't see Sacramento going anywhere.
Yep. I think Indiana was missing an outside shooter more than Sacramento will benefit from adding a defender. People on the board keep making a lot about Artest's scoring, but he's not a guy that can be a late game goto guy or pressure shooter like Peja. He's more of a score in the flow of the game guy like Marion. I won't be surprised one bit to see Peja's shooting percentage get better from here on out. ;)
 

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