Article on front page by a new ASFN writer

[Skkorpion]

http://arizonasportsfans.com/storypage.php?Story_ID=600&Category=cardinals

 

[Red Dawn]

Good article!

One thing that has me worried is Dockett's admitted propensity to lose his helmet for more camera face time. I love the way DD plays the game, but I hope he doesnt get penalized at a critical juncture of a game.

 

[slanidrac16]

Very well put. I can honestly say from the bottom of my heart that if T.O. was on the Cardinals and pulling the s*** he is with the Eagles , I'd be screaming to get rid of him.

 

[green machine]

Great article!

 

[40yearfan]

Great article Matt. Nice to see someone else who values respect and hard work.

 

[azdad1978]

Good read

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Ok I am going to get skewerd for this but while I applaud the intent of the article, in my estimation he is looking at this the wrong way. The simmon article is actually very intersting but the main point of what simmons wrote is that we as a society are the ones who have turned the nature of the wide reciever position into the preening prima donnas that alot of them now are. My contention is that in any large group of people (say the NFL) there are going to be good and bad people and people who are selfish and people who are caring.

Now while im glad Boldin, Fitz, and BJ are not only good players but good men, that is only because i worry about contract holdouts and excessive celebration penalites that would affect the Cardinal team. I have no right to impose what i consider "good" values upon these people as i would not want them preaching their ethics to me. We are all individuals made up of different beliefs and when these players are not playing on the field, I have not a care about what they do in their own private time, assuming it doesnt impeach upon the rights of others. Sports is just a microcosm of society and you would be just as well off lamenting about politicians and doctors. The reality is that instead of hoping that some athletes will provide good role models for your kids, explain that there are good and bad people in every sect of life, and realize that you as a parent are the kids actual role model, whether the kids wearing a T.O. jersey or not......

 

[cards 24-7-365]

Great read. I had the pleasure of meeting Larry and his father while playing blackjack at Casino Arizona after the Cowboys game last week. I went to the bathroom and when I came back Fitz was sitting in the seat next to mine and kind of in my space. I tapped him on the shoulder said "excuse me" (before I knew who I was talking to) and he politley moved out of the way. Needless to say, when I figured it out I was surprised to see who was sitting next to me. He was very nice speaking casually to my wife and me. He was playing $10 a hand like a regular guy and getting stressed out when he lost. LOL. Seemed like a very down to earth kid.

 

[mncardfan]

Ok I am going to get skewerd for this but while I applaud the intent of the article, in my estimation he is looking at this the wrong way. The simmon article is actually very intersting but the main point of what simmons wrote is that we as a society are the ones who have turned the nature of the wide reciever position into the preening prima donnas that alot of them now are. My contention is that in any large group of people (say the NFL) there are going to be good and bad people and people who are selfish and people who are caring.

Now while im glad Boldin, Fitz, and BJ are not only good players but good men, that is only because i worry about contract holdouts and excessive celebration penalites that would affect the Cardinal team. I have no right to impose what i consider "good" values upon these people as i would not want them preaching their ethics to me. We are all individuals made up of different beliefs and when these players are not playing on the field, I have not a care about what they do in their own private time, assuming it doesnt impeach upon the rights of others. Sports is just a microcosm of society and you would be just as well off lamenting about politicians and doctors. The reality is that instead of hoping that some athletes will provide good role models for your kids, explain that there are good and bad people in every sect of life, and realize that you as a parent are the kids actual role model, whether the kids wearing a T.O. jersey or not......

Good post! It is hard to argue with your statement here regarding the fact that there are good and bad people in every sect of life including football. Even though I agree with you that the parent is the most important role model it is obvious to me that kids need more role models than simply their parents. These other roles models obviously include athletes. I don't think we are imposing what we consider good values onto the players, rather we are imposing them onto our children, and should be showing the difference between someone like Fitz vs TO as an example of the bad and good in that sect of life. However in the long run this can be imposed on athletes, because it won't be popular to be a TO.

The reality is that we will always have some of the TO's and some of the Fitz's in life and football. But here is another reality for you, society CAN have an effect on who becomes more popular, and can curb these numbers to the Fitz's of the world. The point is you don't have to preach to TO and players like him, just take care of your own and the message will be heard eventually.

Also, if you think TO is not preaching his ethics to you and your kids (if you have them) through the media, your dead wrong. It may not be his intention, but he sure is doing it. He knows what he does gets put out on TV everyday. An athlete can not hide behind the media these days, they know what they do is in the public eye, right or wrong.

I hope you don't think I'm skewering you, I really think you make some excellent points.

mncardfan

 

[Hordispack]

To quote Jim Rome..."I don't wanna be like Mike...I wanna be like Pat"