As the saying goes....there is something rotten in the state of Denmark

[spanky1]

I am the eternal optimist but:

a) It appears that Edge is sounding a tad defeatist (comments in Kent Somers article today in az republic).

b) Decension on the defensive side of the ball (if Glazer's comments are accurate).

c) Openly discussing trading BIG (not a motivator for him IMO).

d) Green's ambivalence is starting to show big time.

What a shame.

 

[JeffGollin]

I am the eternal optimist but:

a) It appears that Edge is sounding a tad defeatist (comments in Kent Somers article today in az republic).

b) Dissension on the defensive side of the ball (if Glazer's comments are accurate)...

Losing will do that. (Winning will change that). I'd be disappointed if there was no bitching by the players.

 

[JeffGollin]

I am the eternal optimist but:

a) It appears that Edge is sounding a tad defeatist (comments in Kent Somers article today in az republic).

b) Dissension on the defensive side of the ball (if Glazer's comments are accurate)...QUOTE]
Losing will do that. (Winning will change that). I'd be disappointed if there was the total absence of bitching by the players.

 

[Goldfield]

good point... Both times.

 

[vinnymac]

i found myself actually agreeing with jamie duke off of the nfl network. he was saying that desperate teams will come and play. he said the gaints were desperate and that is why they won. the steelers were desperate and that is why they won.

the cardinals are a desperate team and they need a win to salvage this season. so with this kind of thinking i will suspect a win. i noticed that the gaints and the steelers players never went to the media to bitch and moan about things. they always said it was up to them to turn things around. they pretty much owned up to their mistakes as a team and supported one another. unlike the leaders for the cardinals are doing.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

i found myself actually agreeing with jamie duke off of the nfl network. he was saying that desperate teams will come and play. he said the gaints were desperate and that is why they won. the steelers were desperate and that is why they won.

the cardinals are a desperate team and they need a win to salvage this season. so with this kind of thinking i will suspect a win. i noticed that the gaints and the steelers players never went to the media to bitch and moan about things. they always said it was up to them to turn things around. they pretty much owned up to their mistakes as a team and supported one another. unlike the leaders for the cardinals are doing.

Jeremy Shockey went to the media after the loss at Seattle. Of course, he was in Coughlin's the next day and changed his tune. But, you're right. Cowher and Coughlin are two of the tougher coaches in the league and don't put up with too much stuff. That's why Coughlin was my number 1 choice to come here before DG was hired. Coughlin runs strict practices, puts in alot of rules,and holds players accountable. Green seems to run a more player friendly program and coaches players with fear of getting cut if they don't do it his way instead of accountability every day. Plus, he allows some players it seems ,like Edge, alot more freedom than others. Macklin had a bad series and has never gotten out of the doghouse while Edge can pretty much do what he wants. Jimmy Johnson operated that way also but i think he was a little more of a disciplinarian than DG.

 

[Pariah]

There's Something Rotten in Denmark

As coach said, "Maybe it's all that cheese."

 

[vinnymac]

Jeremy Shockey went to the media after the loss at Seattle. Of course, he was in Coughlin's the next day and changed his tune. But, you're right. Cowher and Coughlin are two of the tougher coaches in the league and don't put up with too much stuff. That's why Coughlin was my number 1 choice to come here before DG was hired. Coughlin runs strict practices, puts in alot of rules,and holds players accountable. Green seems to run a more player friendly program and coaches players with fear of getting cut if they don't do it his way instead of accountability every day. Plus, he allows some players it seems ,like Edge, alot more freedom than others. Macklin had a bad series and has never gotten out of the doghouse while Edge can pretty much do what he wants. Jimmy Johnson operated that way also but i think he was a little more of a disciplinarian than DG.

the disciplinarians ususally have winning records and player friendly coaches seems to lose all the time. that was the problems with dave mcginnis. if the cardinals don't make it to the playoffs this season then, the cardinals need a new head coach. especially with the problems that are going on right now with the team. i don't care what our record is at the end of the season. the fans have been promised playoffs for 3 years in a row. with the talent level that the cardinals have on their team, there is no excuse for the cardinals not to make the playoffs.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

the disciplinarians ususally have winning records and player friendly coaches seems to lose all the time. that was the problems with dave mcginnis. if the cardinals don't make it to the playoffs this season then, the cardinals need a new head coach. especially with the problems that are going on right now with the team. i don't care what our record is at the end of the season. the fans have been promised playoffs for 3 years in a row. with the talent level that the cardinals have on their team, there is no excuse for the cardinals not to make the playoffs.

DG's first year this was not a playoff roster. Last year, i thought they had a reasonable chance but the QB situation was iffy. I definitely thought this was the year though. They had everything in the world going for them and here they sit at 1-4. The season can still be salvaged but it's not looking like it's going to be.We'll see tonight. A big win over the , according to Chicago media, UNBEATABLE Chicago Bears could go a long way to restoring their confidence and set up a nice winning streak.

 

[vinnymac]

DG's first year this was not a playoff roster. Last year, i thought they had a reasonable chance but the QB situation was iffy. I definitely thought this was the year though. They had everything in the world going for them and here they sit at 1-4. The season can still be salvaged but it's not looking like it's going to be.We'll see tonight. A big win over the , according to Chicago media, UNBEATABLE Chicago Bears could go a long way to restoring their confidence and set up a nice winning streak.

a win tonight can change my attitude right now againist the cardinals. the unbeatable bears imo havn't beat anybody. the way the cardinals are playing right now the bears will continue to keep their winning streak alive. like i said before, "green needs to get this team to the playoffs this season, or he will be replaced." i don't think he wil care, because he was fired before.

 

[ajcardfan]

I watched as many of the local sportscasts as I could last night and read all the news articles this morning. While a couple mentioned Glazer's report, not one of them confirmed it.

It seems funny to me that we're playing the Bears and in one week wildly falsified rumor comes out. Then, another one that no local reporter can confirm. I think someone isn't playing nice!

 

[Faithful]

I am the eternal optimist but:

a) It appears that Edge is sounding a tad defeatist (comments in Kent Somers article today in az republic).

b) Decension on the defensive side of the ball (if Glazer's comments are accurate).

c) Openly discussing trading BIG (not a motivator for him IMO).

d) Green's ambivalence is starting to show big time.

What a shame.

Where can I read Glazer's report?

 

[Wild Card]

I watched as many of the local sportscasts as I could last night and read all the news articles this morning. While a couple mentioned Glazer's report, not one of them confirmed it.

It seems funny to me that we're playing the Bears and in one week wildly falsified rumor comes out. Then, another one that no local reporter can confirm. I think someone isn't playing nice!

AJCF:

Mike Jurecki confirmed Glazer's report, citing "multiple sources," on this morning's show. He also mentioned several players "rolling their eyes" when asked for reaction to Darnell Dockett's extension.

WC

 

[ajcardfan]

AJCF:

Mike Jurecki confirmed Glazer's report, citing "multiple sources," on this morning's show. He also mentioned several players "rolling their eyes" when asked for reaction to Darnell Dockett's extension.

WC

Okay, it probably happened then. If we win, it won't be a big deal. If we lose, it gets worse before it gets better in all likelyhood.

 

[Mulli]

Any proof that any Cardinal player has spoken to Jurecki since Kendall left?
Perhaps they just roll their eyes at Jurecki's lameness.

 

[D-Dogg]

I don't see ANY player on that team rolling their eyes over Dockett's extension. No way, no how. Not even close.

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't see ANY player on that team rolling their eyes over Dockett's extension. No way, no how. Not even close.

Maybe many of our players are actually teenage girls. That would certainly explain a lot of our problems. And, the eyeroll observation.

 

[ActingWild]

The sad thing is that we actually do have enough talent on this team to be a playoff team. If we would just stop shooting ourselves in the foot we could easily be 3-2 or even 4-1.

Seattle- We blew several good opportunities (iffy that we still could have pulled it off)

St. Louis- Gift wrapped win in which we shot ourselves in both feet and the groin.

KC- Up 14-0 and 20-10 going into the 4th quarter...then we go into melt down mode, bounce back, put a nice drive together and miss the tying field goal.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The sad thing is that we actually do have enough talent on this team to be a playoff team. If we would just stop shooting ourselves in the foot we could easily be 3-2 or even 4-1.

Seattle- We blew several good opportunities (iffy that we still could have pulled it off)

St. Louis- Gift wrapped win in which we shot ourselves in both feet and the groin.

KC- Up 14-0 and 20-10 going into the 4th quarter...then we go into melt down mode, bounce back, put a nice drive together and miss the tying field goal.

every bad team in the league can probably make the same claim - bad teams have bad losses - it's what makes them BAD.

there's ZERO talent on the offensive line - when you have zero talent at 5 of the most important positions on the field, you're not talented enough to make the playoffs - period.

 

[slanidrac16]

every bad team in the league can probably make the same claim - bad teams have bad losses - it's what makes them BAD.

there's ZERO talent on the offensive line - when you have zero talent at 5 of the most important positions on the field, you're not talented enough to make the playoffs - period.

You know what is realy sad about our o-line? We've changed, moved,signed drafted, released and switched about 15 o-linemen, and here we sit with an offensive line that is the weakest link of the team. In the mean time Kendall, Clement,Shelton and now even Bridges are starters on other teams. At what point doe ANYBODY but us fans look at this and say, IT"S THE FRICKIN COACHING?

 

[conraddobler]

every bad team in the league can probably make the same claim - bad teams have bad losses - it's what makes them BAD.

there's ZERO talent on the offensive line - when you have zero talent at 5 of the most important positions on the field, you're not talented enough to make the playoffs - period.

Big is talented enough if he was played in the right spot but other than that, you are correct.

I think if I'm Mike Bidwill and I'm interviewing potential coaches or gasp, heaven forbid potential GM's and they start singing that, well your line isn't bad it's just this or that excrement I stop the interview right there or better yet hit that button under my desk that opens the evacuation shoot under the guys chair.

 

[conraddobler]

You know what is realy sad about our o-line? We've changed, moved,signed drafted, released and switched about 15 o-linemen, and here we sit with an offensive line that is the weakest link of the team. In the mean time Kendall, Clement,Shelton and now even Bridges are starters on other teams. At what point doe ANYBODY but us fans look at this and say, IT"S THE FRICKIN COACHING?

It is the FRICKIN COACHING, but coaching isn't just about teaching the players in this case the part of coaching that's killing us is their evaluation of talent, apparently this staff is no better or worse in eyeing or finding talented Olinemen.

That's the problem.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

every bad team in the league can probably make the same claim - bad teams have bad losses - it's what makes them BAD.

there's ZERO talent on the offensive line - when you have zero talent at 5 of the most important positions on the field, you're not talented enough to make the playoffs - period.

there's talent at 4 of the 5 spots. Ross came over as a starter.Same with Brown. Big's ,whether you like him or not, has a ton of talent. Wells was signed to a pretty good offer sheet by Buffalo. You don't get to starters in the NFL unless you have some talent and other GM's don't throw money around at a guy who has no chance to play. As a unit, the OL stinks. But there is definitely some individual talent there.