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We have drafted so many the past couple years, but if they think he is an upgrade why not.
Was looking like Melton would take over the starting spot across from murphy bunting
I really need to see something from Max this camp.
 

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I feel for Melton being demoted to #4 if this happens (if he can't beat out SMB), and don't love Elijah Jones basically being considered a wasted pick at that point, but we have an out on Murphy-Bunting's contract in 2026 and he could be an easy cap casualty for us.
I think that is harsh words, Solar. I thought Melton showed promise late last season, and we have no idea what Elijah Jones can do. I liked him in the draft, and obviously Gannon has plans with him. That is not to say that I don’t agree with your overall point, though. I also hope that they sign Samuel. You can never have enough quality.
 

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I think that is harsh words, Solar. I thought Melton showed promise late last season, and we have no idea what Elijah Jones can do. I liked him in the draft, and obviously Gannon has plans with him. That is not to say that I don’t agree with your overall point, though. I also hope that they sign Samuel. You can never have enough quality.
I have a hard time criticizing any secondary selections when the HC has a track record of being the best DB coach in the league. I will at least give benefit of doubt until prove otherwise
 

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I have a hard time criticizing any secondary selections when the HC has a track record of being the best DB coach in the league. I will at least give benefit of doubt until prove otherwise
Yep. No call to write Melton off yet. That said, he needs to step up and start this year, or that's a waste of a 2nd-round pick. I would not sign a veteran CB at this point. He needs to play, and needs to be starting. No sense blocking his path to doing so.
 

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I'm surprised about the apprehension from people here. Murphy-Bunting really doesn't have any business being a #1 CB, not even really a #2. Williams is good in the slot. I view Samuel as an upgrade.

I feel for Melton being demoted to #4 if this happens (if he can't beat out SMB), and don't love Elijah Jones basically being considered a wasted pick at that point, but we have an out on Murphy-Bunting's contract in 2026 and he could be an easy cap casualty for us.
MB’s contract would be very costly to cut. Won’t happen.
 

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OK. Having spent too much time looking at the Cardinals CB room, I think I understand why they would sign a FA CB or draft one high (ala Will Johnson).
 

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Wouldn’t be my first choice but would provide leadership. Despite liking physical play he is not a good tackler. He’s not a true ballhawk either. He’s fairly decent in coverage. I suspect he’d be overpriced.
He'll be a good match for out safeties, who have the opposite profile.
 
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I think that is harsh words, Solar. I thought Melton showed promise late last season, and we have no idea what Elijah Jones can do. I liked him in the draft, and obviously Gannon has plans with him. That is not to say that I don’t agree with your overall point, though. I also hope that they sign Samuel. You can never have enough quality.
I'm just saying that if Asante Samuel Jr. gets signed, by default Melton is going to be pushed down the depth chart. Same with EJ. Williams isn't going anywhere and will stay at the slot, so it would leave one starting role for Melton/SMB/EJ to battle for. The next guys up go to #4/5 in the room.
 

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I'm just saying that if Asante Samuel Jr. gets signed, by default Melton is going to be pushed down the depth chart. Same with EJ. Williams isn't going anywhere and will stay at the slot, so it would leave one starting role for Melton/SMB/EJ to battle for. The next guys up go to #4/5 in the room.
I would like melton asante playin the outside and garret williams in the slot
Sterling thomad the fourth cb, can also give depth at safety and full time special teams
Sean murphy Burting traded
 
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OK. Having spent too much time looking at the Cardinals CB room, I think I understand why they would sign a FA CB or draft one high (ala Will Johnson).
How so? Prohibitive starters in 2025 are Melton and ST5 with Williams in the slot. SMB is the seventh DB (rabbit or Thompson come in for dime sets) and Moore is developmental special teamer.

I get making an investment in hedging Clark’s development, but adding resources you expect to contribute in year one or two seems excessive.

SMB $10 million cap number in 2025. So good.
 

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How so? Prohibitive starters in 2025 are Melton and ST5 with Williams in the slot. SMB is the seventh DB (rabbit or Thompson come in for dime sets) and Moore is developmental special teamer.

I get making an investment in hedging Clark’s development, but adding resources you expect to contribute in year one or two seems excessive.

SMB $10 million cap number in 2025. So good.
Yeah smb cant be cut , maybe next year, so there is no room for asante
 

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