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Cards optimism is back; dare we hop on bandwagon?

Paola Boivin
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 30, 2007 12:00 AM

It's a rare form of Valley fever, defined by dementia, myopia and palpitations. Glands aren't swollen, but expectations are.

It's the return of Cardinals optimism, an affliction that strikes in the late summer. The team plays its final preseason game tonight in Denver and opens the regular season Sept. 10 in San Francisco.

"God told me this year that the prayers are going to work," Sister Martha Carpenter of St. Peter Indian Mission School in Bapchule told fans at the Cardinals Kickoff Luncheon on Wednesday.
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Sigh. Dare we dream?

Despite the football organization's reputation for futility - the club holds the NFL record for the longest championship drought - optimism is high this year.

Saturday's Cardinals-Chargers preseason game went head to head with the Diamondbacks-Cubs baseball game and drew a larger audience (a 7.9 rating vs. 6.4) than its National League West-leading counterpart.

The exhibition game against San Diego also was the Cardinals' 12th sellout since moving into the stadium last year.

It took 18 seasons to reach that amount when housed in Sun Devil Stadium, and seven of those games were against the Dallas Cowboys.

Excitement is building, despite eight straight losing seasons, including last year's 5-11 effort.

"I tried to change my allegiance for about five minutes once in the '70s," said Donovan Moore, a Cardinals fan for 39 of his 44 years. "I can't help myself. I keep coming back."

"There's actually a name for it that dates all the way back to Freud in 1920," said Bettina Lehnert Schulte, a Scottsdale-based psychologist. "He called it repetition compulsion."

Lehnert Schulte said that what's happening with Cardinals fans "suggests that when people get their heart broken by a team and then come back for more season after season, it is often in an effort to do the experience over and get a different result."

Ha! That would explain comments posted Wednesday on a popular Cardinals fan Web site, arizonasportsfans.com, which followed the thread heading "You know you're a hopeless Cardinal fan . . . " Said poster "freebyrd" :thumbup: : "When you watch the replay of the Chargers-Cards game and somehow expect a different ending."

Uh-huh.

Not all reasons for optimism are Freudian. New coach Ken Whisenhunt generates excitement simply because of his Pittsburgh Steelers roots.

"He brings a winning attitude," said center Al Johnson, a recent free-agent addition. "You can just feel it."

Quarterback Matt Leinart returns with a year of experience, and the defense will be improved, safety Adrian Wilson insists, despite the unit yielding an average of 31 points in the team's three exhibition losses.

"Defensively, we're holding a lot of things back," Wilson told the luncheon audience at University of Phoenix Stadium. "You guys don't need to worry about the preseason."

They're not. It's the regular season that has them in a tizzy. Not everyone is optimistic. Bodog.com, an online sports gambling site, has the Cardinals' odds of winning the Super Bowl at 40-1.

Last year, when the team won just five games, its odds were 35-1 entering the season.

"Thirty-five-to-1, 100-to-1, I don't care," said Andy Charles, 46, of Tucson. "I've had my heart broken too many times to spend another cent on them."

It's hard to fault the skepticism. The club has posted only one winning season in 22 years. Just when you're ready to walk the Cardinals red carpet, the organization pulls the rug out from under you.

That doesn't discourage everybody.

"This is probably the most optimistic I've been since the (Don) Coryell days (from 1973-77)," said Moore, who runs a software consulting and development company in Parker, Colo.

"Hope springs eternal, I guess," Lehnert Schulte said. "Just ask Red Sox fans."

The Red Sox broke through in 2004. Maybe it's the Cardinals' turn.
 

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Cards optimism is back; dare we hop on bandwagon?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/0830boivin0830.html

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Ha! That would explain comments posted Wednesday on a popular Cardinals fan Web site, arizonasportsfans.com, which followed the thread heading "You know you're a hopeless Cardinal fan . . . " Said poster "freebyrd": "When you watch the replay of the Chargers-Cards game and somehow expect a different ending."
 

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Uh, no. The Cardinals are at least a year away from the playoffs, and probably 2. If they go .500 this year I'll consider that a huge success.
 

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Boivin's column on the front page of the Arizona Republic titled "A new season, a new reason to believe."


http://www.azcentral.com/news/columns/articles/0830boivin0830.html

Ha! That would explain comments posted Wednesday on a popular Cardinals fan Web site, arizonasportsfans.com, which followed the thread heading "You know you're a hopeless Cardinal fan . . . " Said poster "freebyrd": "When you watch the replay of the Chargers-Cards game and somehow expect a different ending."
 

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This one's me:

"I tried to change my allegiance for about five minutes once in the '70s," said Donovan Moore, a Cardinals fan for 39 of his 44 years. "I can't help myself. I keep coming back."

I had a nice long phone conversation with Paola yesterday...very nice lady.
 

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Missed this one - it's also me:

"This is probably the most optimistic I've been since the (Don) Coryell days (from 1973-77)," said Moore, who runs a software consulting and development company in Parker, Colo.

Somebody should merge all of these threads...there's like, three of them...
 

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It was nice of here not to reprint the typo in the thread title with the condescending "[sic]" attached to it.

Nice work, ASFN. :thumbup:
 

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Just as - in a football organization - when you have a long snapper, you can cross it off your worry-less (i.e. it represents one less distraction)...

Knowing that all your home games are sold out and a previous media critic is now showing you some love removes a couple of distractions from being a Cardinal rooter (i.e we no longer have to worry about a sea of empty seats or a swath of Cowboy Blue occupying large chunks of stadium and what the latest bash of the Cardinals by the media will be).

Instead we can worry about which UDFA's we're going to keep and whether our players can execute the Tampa 2.

Progress.
 

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ASFN in the media? Well, here come the trolls.

Hopefully we gain some good posters, too.
 

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ASFN in the media? Well, here come the trolls.

Hopefully we gain some good posters, too.

Awesome. Good job freebyrd.

In fact, everyone here deserves a pat on the back for making this community one that recognized in the media.
 

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Nice! when I read that i immediatly hopped over only to find i was a day late and a dollar short!

Nice work!:thumbup:

Oh and Bickley and Gambo - we know you're out there lurking too....
 

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Amazing Fact

That a Cardinal preseason game had better TV ratings than a regular season baseball game involving a first place team. Just remember that every year "Cardinal Kids" get a year older, building the fan base.
 

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Awesome. Good job freebyrd.

In fact, everyone here deserves a pat on the back for making this community one that recognized in the media.

Thank God she didn't quote from the official site.....it's flooded with idiotic 49er trolls and a fanatic AZ skinhead. This site is superior, THIS should be the official site.
 

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ASFN in the media? Well, here come the trolls.

Hopefully we gain some good posters, too.
Most of them will probably just come on here and tell stupidly lame jokes and not really add anything.

:)
 

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Most of them will probably just come on here and tell stupidly lame jokes and not really add anything.

:)

No, I am going to be replaced!

Alas, I was going to post on the featured thread, and now it's too late. It's always too late. Fortunately!
 

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No, I am going to be replaced!

Alas, I was going to post on the featured thread, and now it's too late. It's always too late. Fortunately!
There will always be a place for us first-class second rate posters with a love for Hootie. Some may not like us, but I say let them cry.
 

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freebyrd

You should be expecting a call from Graves. Congrats, new Mr. Marketing Director for the Arizona Cardinals Football Club.

Just don't expect a salary. :)
 

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There will always be a place for us first-class second rate posters with a love for Hootie. Some may not like us, but I say let them cry.

Whew, that's a relief. I thought I saw some of the new bad joke artists gaining on me, but it's hard to tell what with my Cracked Rear View.
 

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Whew, that's a relief. I thought I saw some of the new bad joke artists gaining on me, but it's hard to tell what with my Cracked Rear View.
You'll probably be alright; tomorrow's just another day...
 

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That a Cardinal preseason game had better TV ratings than a regular season baseball game involving a first place team. Just remember that every year "Cardinal Kids" get a year older, building the fan base.

A key part of this are the sellouts. Now the kids in Arizona can see all the Carinal* games on TV instead of the 49ers or Dallas or whatever they used to show on the NFC channel when the home games were blacked out.

Our new advertising slogan: The PUP:Breeding a new generation of Carinal* fans.

*Starting tomorrow I'm going to put back the D at least until after the first game because supposedly we'll have a brand new defense come opening night. I'm not changing my avatar though until they actually show me something :D
 

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