assuming leinart and bush are gone what do YOU do in the draft?

[sundevil04]

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a little early for this but I'm always ready to talk draft. also assuming young and quinn stay in school and we pick between 7-10.

we could go a few differt directions we need help on the o-line but fergusonwill be gone in the top 5. that would probable leave e.winston and j.scott but are they worth a top ten pick?

omar jacobs could be available but is he really the qb you WANT or just the one thats still there?

Marcedes Lewis could be an interesting pick, a stud te and 2 stud receivers with warner throwing indoors?

we could go dt with h.ngata or r.wright and help sure up the run d

dont forget a stud lb like brooks or hawk

then there's always j.williams at cb and move rolle to fs in place of the aging griffth

or one of the "other" rb's like d.williams or l.maroney

what would YOU do?
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[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Lendale White...

 

[Pariah]

Ngata or an OL, probably.

IMO, D. Williams would be mighty hard to pass up, though.

 

[clif]

Well...TRADE UP!! TRADE UP!!.. we've been in the 7-10 range... we've done the trade down scenario... do something different.. TRADE UP!!

 

[The Commish]

I DO NOT want an OL with our first pick. Very rarely do Top 10 O-Lineman actually live up to their draft position. Guys I would like to see with our 1st Round pick:


Haloti Ngata - DT - Oregon: I think this would be a number 1 priority. We need a run-stuffing DT. Don't care who it ends up being, but it needs to be done.

AJ Hawk - LB - Ohio State: I like Hawk, though I think you can easily find a good MLB in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounds. Call me homer, but Dale Robinson from ASU I think will be a solid MLB for a while, and won't come at the expense of a Round 1 pick.

Mercedes Lewis - TE - UCLA: Having a big play TE will only help our offense, especially underneath coverages that are covering Q and Fitz.



I know we need a competely new Offensive Line, but please please don't take one with your first round pick. They almost never live up to hype.

 

[joeshmo]

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AJ Hawk - LB - Ohio State: I like Hawk, though I think you can easily find a good MLB in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounds. Call me homer, but Dale Robinson from ASU I think will be a solid MLB for a while, and won't come at the expense of a Round 1 pick.

Hawk is a OLB not MLB.

 

[sundevil04]

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he's been playing mlb all year despite being listed as an olb
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[NEZCardsfan]

I thought Schlegel was playing inside??

 

[joeshmo]

he's been playing mlb all year despite being listed as an olb

But every pro scout and their brother are calling him an OLB or projecting him to be an OLB. Most Draft sites are putting him in the OLB group as well. He can get away with playing MLB in at the college level but in the NFL he needs to be in space to be most effective.

 

[joeshmo]

I thought Schlegel was playing inside??

I believe you are correct.

 

[football karma]

My choice is any pick that helps the Cards in the following areas:

1. Stopping the run

2. Running the ball

All that basically eliminates are defensive backs, wide outs and kickers

 

[Russ Smith]

Mercedes Lewis - TE - UCLA: Having a big play TE will only help our offense, especially underneath coverages that are covering Q and Fitz.

His identical twin M(A)rcedes is much better.

That said Marcedes has had a bit of a disappointing year to me, too many games the defense took him totally away from UCLA. USC tripled him at times but even when they were just zoning him it seemed to me he was a bit too passive. Great talent, but I do have a slight concern if he really has that drive to be a star?

Weird too if you saw him play basketball his freshman year he was the most aggressive player on the team.

Still very high on my list of players but the USC game he really disappointed me.

 

[sundevil04]

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I hate to say it because I always hated to see the cards trade down in the past but it could be a good year to trade down and pick up one of the talents that could fall like omar jacobs, ahmad brooks or r.wright.

here are 19 prospects at positions of need that are worthy of a rd 1 pick, that means that a few of these guys will have to be available at the end of rd1

qb
m.leinart
o.jacobs

rb
r.bush
d.williams
l.white
l.maroney

ot
d.ferguson
e.winston
j.scott
m.mcneil

dt
h.ngata
r.wright

lb
a.hawk
a.brooks

cb
j.williams
j.allen

s
d.bing

te
m.lewis
v.davis
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[spanky1]

a little early for this but I'm always ready to talk draft. also assuming young and quinn stay in school and we pick between 7-10.

we could go a few differt directions we need help on the o-line but fergusonwill be gone in the top 5. that would probable leave e.winston and j.scott but are they worth a top ten pick?

omar jacobs could be available but is he really the qb you WANT or just the one thats still there?

Marcedes Lewis could be an interesting pick, a stud te and 2 stud receivers with warner throwing indoors?

we could go dt with h.ngata or r.wright and help sure up the run d

dont forget a stud lb like brooks or hawk

then there's always j.williams at cb and move rolle to fs in place of the aging griffth

or one of the "other" rb's like d.williams or l.maroney

what would YOU do?

The only RB's that appeal to me (R.Bush aside) are LenDale White and/or Michael Bush. DeAngelo Williams and L. Maroney are too similar to Arrington.

Jimmy Williams actually has some excellent experience as a FS and I'm high on him as a replacement for Griffith. As you are new to the board you haven't been privvy to the "leave Rolle as a CB" but this to many of us is not an option as to how to best use Rolle. He has never played as a S and to try and convert him doesn'r make any sense. Why mess with something?

AJ Hawk as a W/OLB would have us with a very foormidable LB corp.....but Darryl Blackstock has looked very good in his rookie year and is penciled in to replace Huff (my guess is next year). Ahmad Brooks is coming off a horrible year injury wise and would likely benefit by going back for his senior year.

Rodrique Wright's stock is falling. I watched him against Colorado and he didn't wow me. He might fall into the second round. Haloti Ngata with our #1 pick is a solid option in my way of thinking.

Mercedes Lewis is the top TE but I'm not ready to use a #1 pick on him. While Bergen dropped a sure TD yesterday, he's looked good so far this year. Not a real position of need IMO.

I am intrigued with Marcus McNeill as a RT (like him over Scott or Winston who are LT's of course.......I'm not throwing L Davis out with the bath water just yet.....I believe he'll become what is needed at LT. Grabbing McNeill would allow for Ross to move to RG and Elton Brown to LG. Formidable.

So to answer you question: Haloti Ngata as NT is one option that marries BPA with PON, should we end up drafting in and around 10-12.

 

[Mitch]

Here's my mock draft (which I will update probably 1,000 times before now and April)...but if the draft was today, these are the players I'd like:

1. DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon. The big, strong plug tackle this team needs to stop the run without having to constantly scheme to do so.

2. T Jeremy Trueblood, Boston College. Tall, strong and athletic. Surpisingly good feet. Like most BC o-line All-Stars, can start right away. We shift Big back to RG. Leckey starts at C. We keep a rejuvenated in-shape Ross at RT...and make every effort to sign G Steve Hutchinson to play LG.

3. MLB D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland. This athletic playmaker in the middle can challenge Gerald Hayes for the starting job. Shift Lance Mitchell to OLB for depth out there.

4. G Tyler Reed, Penn. St. Big, strong and smart. Good guards tend to slip into day two of the draft, as Elton Brown did. Reed would be a great value pick here.

5. UT Jonathan Lewis, Virginia Tech. Lack of height may cause him to slip into the 5th round, but he'd be good enough in year one to spell Darnell Dockett ten to twelve snaps a game. A similar player is UT Al Washington of Boston College...if Lewis is gone, Washington might not be at this point.

6. FS Jahmile Addae, West Virginia. Fast and rangy centerfielder, who gets to the ball quickly.

7. CB Jovan Johnson, Iowa. Smallish, but would be an ideal nickel back who can run stride for stride with slot receivers. Good special teams player as well.

 

[sundevil04]

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anyone for aj hawk at mlb?
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[Arizona's Finest]

Ferguson - Supposedly a 'chise LT....the only OL i would take in the first round....

Hawk - Im w/ you RED, if he plays MLB he will make our defense formidable..

Ngata - A little worried about him, but is dude is just HUGE

Maroney- Watch this guy start to rise up draft boards come april....i keep bringing this guy up

Lewis - Merecedes would be SUCH a weapon. If we build an offensive line through later draft rounds and FA and JJ comes into his own....well i like our offense quite a bit....

 

[sundevil04]

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i dont think our ol is that far away from being good, we just need to keep them healthy and get them a year together in the nfl

t/g- ross, t/g- davis, g- brown, c- leckey/step and add one more ol in fa

and i'm not ready to give up on jj until i see him behind a good line

I would go defense in rd 1 hawk or ngata
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[RedStorm]

assuming leinart and bush are gone what do YOU do in the draft?

Cry. Cry. Cry.

 

[clif]

R Wright from Texas.... ahh... no thanks if that is his usual performance. The guy I saw routinely looked uninspired and jogged if the play was not directly at him. I will defer to others who have seen him play, but he sure as hell did not impress.

 

[Russ Smith]

R Wright from Texas.... ahh... no thanks if that is his usual performance. The guy I saw routinely looked uninspired and jogged if the play was not directly at him. I will defer to others who have seen him play, but he sure as hell did not impress.

That's his rep, makes a couple of big plays a game but never dominates like you expect him to.

Frank Okam is the stud DT on that team, soph, not draft eligible.

Wright has talent but he just seems to lack drive or something.

 

[spanky1]

Here's my mock draft (which I will update probably 1,000 times before now and April)...but if the draft was today, these are the players I'd like:

1. DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon. The big, strong plug tackle this team needs to stop the run without having to constantly scheme to do so.

2. T Jeremy Trueblood, Boston College. Tall, strong and athletic. Surpisingly good feet. Like most BC o-line All-Stars, can start right away. We shift Big back to RG. Leckey starts at C. We keep a rejuvenated in-shape Ross at RT...and make every effort to sign G Steve Hutchinson to play LG.

3. MLB D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland. This athletic playmaker in the middle can challenge Gerald Hayes for the starting job. Shift Lance Mitchell to OLB for depth out there.

4. G Tyler Reed, Penn. St. Big, strong and smart. Good guards tend to slip into day two of the draft, as Elton Brown did. Reed would be a great value pick here.

5. UT Jonathan Lewis, Virginia Tech. Lack of height may cause him to slip into the 5th round, but he'd be good enough in year one to spell Darnell Dockett ten to twelve snaps a game. A similar player is UT Al Washington of Boston College...if Lewis is gone, Washington might not be at this point.

6. FS Jahmile Addae, West Virginia. Fast and rangy centerfielder, who gets to the ball quickly.

7. CB Jovan Johnson, Iowa. Smallish, but would be an ideal nickel back who can run stride for stride with slot receivers. Good special teams player as well.

Mitch,

With your suggested O-Line moves (BIG to RG and Steve Hutchison in FA as LG), where does Elton Brown fit in?

Let's be realistic and not pipe dream (as I am prone to do)....Davis IS NOT GOING TO BE MOVED FROM HIS CURRENT POSITION AS LT and there is NO WAY ON SEATTLE NOT RESIGNING HUTCHISON.

You know as well as I that the O-Line in 2006 will look like :

LT: Davis
LG: Either Wells or Step
C: Leckey
RG: Brown
RT: Ross

 

[clif]

That's his rep, makes a couple of big plays a game but never dominates like you expect him to.

Frank Okam is the stud DT on that team, soph, not draft eligible.

Wright has talent but he just seems to lack drive or something.

Seriouly the sad part was when the announcers were hyping him... being that the game was played in houston.. the very next play I see his big butt just jogging to a running play to the outside. I was like.. whoa.... no!!!

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Let's be realistic and not pipe dream (as I am prone to do)....Davis IS NOT GOING TO BE MOVED FROM HIS CURRENT POSITION AS LT and there is NO WAY ON SEATTLE NOT RESIGNING HUTCHISON.

The question is, how much salary cap space do the Seahawks have? With Alexander also a restricted free agent, the Hawks can only tag one, and I can't see them letting Alexander walk.. Not after the season he's had.

So, again it all comes down to the Salary Cap. As of now, I believe they've got about $2 million in salary cap space. Obviously, things will change in the post-season but if they tie Alexander down long term, that will cuff them either way.

 

[ajcardfan]

The question is, how much salary cap space do the Seahawks have? With Alexander also a restricted free agent, the Hawks can only tag one, and I can't see them letting Alexander walk.. Not after the season he's had.

So, again it all comes down to the Salary Cap. As of now, I believe they've got about $2 million in salary cap space. Obviously, things will change in the post-season but if they tie Alexander down long term, that will cuff them either way.

We can all hope they let one of them walk, but it's not going to happen. They looked to in even worse shape just one year ago with Alexander, Hasselback and Jones all free agents. Not only that, they had the most free agents in the league, period. This year will actually be much easier to deal with for the Seahawks IMO.