Barbosa @ Americas Championship Tournament

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Let's keep track of Barbosa's numbers at this world championship qualifying tournament. In game one he led his team with 31 points as Brazil defeated Venezuela (although the stats page show him scoring 28).

The line (from stats page):

34 min
28 pts
11/19 fg (3/5 3pt)
3/3 ft
7 reb
6 assists
4 steals
0 bs
2 to

1st game recap: http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread4.asp?r=GXJGPMJNDT&t=XGLQKBLQOI

Team stats: http://www.fibaamericas.com/torneos_roster_us.asp?t=XGLQKBLQOI&team=250&n=Brazil&c=BRA
 

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Nice line. He led his team in minutes, points, assists, steals and was second in rebounds. His shooting % was very good as well.

# Player GP Min M/A % M/A % M/A % Pts Avg O/D Tot Ast PF TO St BS
8 Barbosa, L. 1 34 8/14 57.1 3/5 60.0 3/3 100.0 28 28.0 3/4 7 6 4 2 4 0
 

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Griffin said:
Let's keep track of Barbosa's numbers at this world championship qualifying tournament. In game one he led his team with 31 points as Brazil defeated Venezuela (although the stats page show him scoring 28).

The line (from stats page):

34 min
28 pts
11/19 fg (3/5 3pt)
3/3 ft
7 reb
6 assists
4 steals
0 bs
2 to

1st game recap: http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread4.asp?r=GXJGPMJNDT&t=XGLQKBLQOI

Team stats: http://www.fibaamericas.com/torneos_roster_us.asp?t=XGLQKBLQOI&team=250&n=Brazil&c=BRA

You're right. He did score 31 points (12-20 from the field, 4-6 from beyond the arc), like you said. I actually believe he had 5 assists and 6 rebounds, but I could be wrond

I taped the game, and he wasn't facing good competition at all. Brazil completely destroyed Venezuela (by the end of the first half, the score was 58-30), and no one was quick enough to guard him. He showed some very nice moves to finish around the basket, though.

Leandro played PG for the first three quarters of the game, then played a little bit of SG in the fourth quarter. He didn't do a bad job on offense, but still looked to score first. He did have one beautiful assist on the break, though.

One good thing is the fact that Brazil is playing a fast-paced game, so Leandrinho is pushing the ball all the time.

Today Brazil will play against USA.
 

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Today's game form Barbosa:


37 points, 5 assists and 5 rebounds
 

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Today's game form Barbosa:


37 points, 5 assists and 5 rebounds


against the usa? who was on the usa squad? and what was the end score of the game?
 

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Last-second victory

Last-second victory

Greer's FTs propel U.S. past Brazil in Worlds qualifier

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Lynn Greer made three free throws with 1.2 seconds left to lead the United States to a 96-94 victory over Brazil on Thursday in the Americas World Championship qualifying tournament.
Brazil and the Americans traded the lead three times in the last minute. But Phoenix Suns guard Leandro Barbosa made a layup, drew a foul and made the free throw to put Brazil ahead with 6.4 seconds left.


After a time out and with just seconds remaining, Greer brought the ball up, crossed over at the top of the arc, forced a shot and was fouled.

"Our plan was to have whoever had the ball try to drive and shoot," U.S. coach Mo McHone said. "We were fortunate he [Greer] was fouled."

Greer said he pulled up and shot because he wasn't able to shake his defender and drive.

Barbosa led Brazil with 37 points, while Cleveland Cavaliers guard Anderson Varejao scored 15 before leaving the game in the fourth quarter after being elbowed in the right shoulder while contesting a rebound. Coach Lula Ferreira said Varejao he will miss the rest of the tournament, which began Wednesday and runs through Sept. 4.

Charlie Bell scored 20 points and Alex Scales added 18 to lead the Americans.

The top four teams in the 10-nation event qualify for next year's FIBA World Championship in Japan. Argentina already has qualified as Olympic champion in Athens last year.

The United States, made up of mostly overseas-based players and others from the NBA Developmental League and Continental Basketball Association, shot 14-for-27 from 3-point range.

Brazil, the tournament favorite, beat the United States in three practice games earlier this month in Brazil.

McHone said those games helped the Americans better prepare for Brazil.

"We made some adjustments defensively and rebounded better than we did in the other three games," McHone said. "We finally got a break."

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myrondizzo said:
Last-second victory

Greer's FTs propel U.S. past Brazil in Worlds qualifier

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Lynn Greer made three free throws with 1.2 seconds left to lead the United States to a 96-94 victory over Brazil on Thursday in the Americas World Championship qualifying tournament.
Brazil and the Americans traded the lead three times in the last minute. But Phoenix Suns guard Leandro Barbosa made a layup, drew a foul and made the free throw to put Brazil ahead with 6.4 seconds left.


After a time out and with just seconds remaining, Greer brought the ball up, crossed over at the top of the arc, forced a shot and was fouled.

"Our plan was to have whoever had the ball try to drive and shoot," U.S. coach Mo McHone said. "We were fortunate he [Greer] was fouled."

Greer said he pulled up and shot because he wasn't able to shake his defender and drive.

Barbosa led Brazil with 37 points, while Cleveland Cavaliers guard Anderson Varejao scored 15 before leaving the game in the fourth quarter after being elbowed in the right shoulder while contesting a rebound. Coach Lula Ferreira said Varejao he will miss the rest of the tournament, which began Wednesday and runs through Sept. 4.

Charlie Bell scored 20 points and Alex Scales added 18 to lead the Americans.

The top four teams in the 10-nation event qualify for next year's FIBA World Championship in Japan. Argentina already has qualified as Olympic champion in Athens last year.

The United States, made up of mostly overseas-based players and others from the NBA Developmental League and Continental Basketball Association, shot 14-for-27 from 3-point range.

Brazil, the tournament favorite, beat the United States in three practice games earlier this month in Brazil.

McHone said those games helped the Americans better prepare for Brazil.

"We made some adjustments defensively and rebounded better than we did in the other three games," McHone said. "We finally got a break."

Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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what is this the tournament of the americas or the tournament of the suns? weren't greer, scales, and bell all members of the suns or their summer squads in the past?
 

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Ouchie-Z-Clown said:
what is this the tournament of the americas or the tournament of the suns? weren't greer, scales, and bell all members of the suns or their summer squads in the past?
yeah they hed a write up on suns.com all the suns ties to the national team.
 

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I suppose that this is a lot like summer league stuff, but Leandro is certainly demonstrating that he is a serious scoring threat against slower players.
 

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You nailed it with the summer league comparison. Barbosa's performances right now aren't telling us anything we didn't already know.
 

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George O'Brien said:
I suppose that this is a lot like summer league stuff, but Leandro is certainly demonstrating that he is a serious scoring threat against slower players.

I kind of agree, though Tyus Edney and Charlie Bell are better than your average summer league player. They are estabilished players in Europe.

I watched this game, and I have to say that this was the best game from Leandrinho that I've ever seen. And that's not because he scored 37 points. The way he finishes around the basket is just fantastic. He showed a lot of creativity in this game. He was making all kinds of shots using the glass. There's one type of shot that he makes effortlessly, putting the ball high off the glass (I think it was Joe Mama who once said he loves that shot), and he did that many times in this game.

I had my doubts before, but this game makes me think he has a very bright future in this league. When he's confortable, he's very, very hard to guard. He just needs time. Remember, Leandrinho is only 22. Ginóbili started to play in the NBA when he was 25, and he still made a lot of rookie mistakes.

Leandro carried Brazil as far as anyone could today (but it wasn't enough). Like many of you have said before, he's not a real point guard. But he's very talented, and I could definitely see him playing a role similar to that of Bobby Jackson in Sacramento a couple of years ago.
 

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Thanks for the coverage, guys!

Barbosa needs experience and learn how to control himself, to stay low in his legs a bit longer, to let the opportunity come to him instead of forcing the issue. This also would help him to defend better too. Once he played more and got the experience, he should be a very good player in the league.
 

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Saw this posted on another site by a Brazilian fan:
Man, this game was sad(for brazilians)...we don´t have a coach!!!! We are 10 points ahead in 4th and our crazy coach put a Sf Giovanoni to play PF (Varejão left the game w/ an injure shoulder)against USA big man...as a result, USA two bigs eating an alone Splitter in the paint, and grab severals off boards...it´s a shame

But USA played a good game...USA are two points ahead and L. Barbosa(best in court, and maybe future MVP) w/ 10sec left slash to the basket, made a dificult layup and receive an foul. He convert and w/ 1 sec left in the game, a USA player try a 3pt shot and our backup PG(Nezinho)foul him in the most stupid play of the year 3ft converted and USA victory...
The bright side for us(brazilians) was L. Barbosa game...this guy is amazing!!! He´s playing great D and show that he can run the PG...he´s a scoring PG, but he don´t hold the ball to much(like Marbury), he make the team better...he´s playing like D. Wade(less slam dunks) and tonight he put a show(one more time)!! It´s a shame his situation in Suns...Dantoni don´t trust him, and playing behind Nash don´t help...I really hope that Suns trade him for other team(like they made in the past w/ Nash)...
...and Splitter...every time that this Kid receive the ball down low, he show his very good post game...as in a clutch play in last minute of the game were he schooled(sp?) USA big man for a great post play...but our "wise" coach don´t call plays for big man...
 

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Interesting that he mentions Marbury, since that is the guy Leandro gets accused of resembling. Stephon's greatest virtue was also his greatest weakness. He thinks he can beat anyone one one one - and is generally right.

There ARE times when it is important to have and outside guy who can beat his man one on one. Last season that was JJ. The current squad doesn't really have that. The team has a lot of guys who are effective as spot up shooters and Marion who does the Alley Oop better than anyone, but Nash is the best at creating his own shot. In certain situations, putting in Leandro would force teams to back off their pressure because he can just blow right by them.
 

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elindholm said:
You nailed it with the summer league comparison. Barbosa's performances right now aren't telling us anything we didn't already know.

No, I think they represent some improvement. First, it is an increase over what he was typically doing in the summer league. He seems to also be gaining some consistency. The common factor is that he is not being asked to be a pass first pg.

He's more Marbury than Nash. Looks to me like we should just let him be what he is. Let him fit in with his own style, or trade him to a team that wants a score first pg, or a small fast 2.
 

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elindholm said:
You nailed it with the summer league comparison. Barbosa's performances right now aren't telling us anything we didn't already know.
Maybe this will serve as a reminder for those who were wailing over Nate Robinson's box scores in July? :confused:


If Leo were coming off this summer and going to a team where he had a significant role, I think he'd show real promise this year. Remember, he was a long-term project when he first came into the league.
 

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Maybe this will serve as a reminder for those who were wailing over Nate Robinson's box scores in July? :confused:


If Leo were coming off this summer and going to a team where he had a significant role, I think he'd show real promise this year. Remember, he was a long-term project when he first came into the league.

Yep, he's still very young.
 

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I think it was Dick Van Arsdale who said this summer that young players like Barbosa tend to come on strong their third year in the league and that he hoped it was the case with him. Between he and Diaw, I'm hoping to find some kind of a consistent cure for Nash sitting on the bench. I've said this before, but it'll probably take a lot of the season for them to get comfortable doing it, and I hope D'Antoni gives them the time to figure it out for the playoffs-- even if it means enduring a few losses in the regular season.
 

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When Barbosa figures out he doesn't have to be Steve Nash, he's going to blow up.
 

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Gaddabout said:
When Barbosa figures out he doesn't have to be Steve Nash, he's going to blow up.

At the same time, his teammates need to realize he isn't Steve Nash too. Nash has eyes in the back of his head (you can't see them because of all the hair :wave: ), but most point guards need the other guys to move in predetermined patterns in order to find them.
 

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Aug 26 .. Brazil/Panama 83/77

Barbosa 34 minutes 15 pts with 3 asst 2 steals 4 t/o
 
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