Barbosa Brazilian draft intrigue

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The story of how Leandro Barbosa got from Brazilian poverty to NBA riches is chronicled in one of my favorite things that has ever been on TrueHoop, Gregory Dole's 11-part "Rolling with Leandro" series. Now that Barbosa is a millionaire, he's going to no small amount of trouble, with the help of his brother Artur, to smooth the path for future Brazilian prodigies, investing in facilities and training that could make the difference for future NBA players.

The Barbosas are particularly excited about one prospect in particular, named Alexandre Parnhos, who is eligible for the 2013 NBA draft, but barely on anybody's radar. Artur just sent me this e-mail, which I'm pasting here verbatim, with Artur's permission:

The rest here:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/59453/barbosa-brazilian-draft-intrigue

Basically, the Barbosa brothers are helping a kid named Alexandre Paranhos get into the NBA. The kid is a legit 3pt threat and apparently has similar physique to LeBron.

From Artur's email to Henry Abbott:

Yesterday he worked out in Houston for the Rockets.To see that I am not exaggerating about him having Lebron' s physique, his measurements from today yesterday were:

Height: 6'8"
Weight: 241 lbs
Wingspan: 7'3"
Bodyfat: 9%

After the workout I met people from the Rockets and I think they were very impressed with Alexandre.

I was not in the workout but I known there are not many players with Alexandre's body and athleticism in the world.And after so many years training ballhandling with Leandro, I also known there are not many guys at any position with Alexandre 's ballhandling because he learned from the best.

Alexandre was the best three-point shooter in the LDO as well. He had a game last year where he made six threes. I can send you this game tape. This is very impressive for a guy who also plays power forward.

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There's a link to three YouTube videos at the end of the article.

What do you guys think?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

 

[AzStevenCal]

I love handles, quickness and length. Sounds like he has them and if so, he'd be a nice gamble at the 30 spot or maybe buy an early 2nd to get him. The other approach is to send a covert team into San Antonio, if he's high on their draft board, grab him.

Steve

 

[Brian in Mesa]

 

[Mainstreet]

I feel confident Suns GM Ryan McDonough knows about him. This is the first time since the death of Scouting Director Dick Percudani, I feel the Suns know what they are doing when it comes to scouting.

Go Leandro.

 

[Superbone]

I feel confident Suns GM Ryan McDonough knows about him. This is the first time since the death of Scouting Director Dick Percudani, I feel the Suns know what they are doing when it comes to scouting.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...x-could-be-draft-option-for-phoenix-suns.html

Staffing moves
The Suns promoted Trevor Bukstein, the director of basketball administration for three years, to assistant general manager and confirmed the hirings of Pat Connelly, formerly Washington’s director of player personnel, as assistant GM and ex-Lakers assistant GM Ronnie Lester as scout. The Suns also made Emilio Kovacic, Synergy Sports Technology’s European GM, their international scouting consultant.

Director of player personnel John Treloar and scouts Bubba Burrage and John Shumate were retained.

 

[sunsfan88]

Wow those are some impressive measurements. I would definitely take him at #57, if not bring him to our summer league as an UDFA.

 

[HooverDam]

I absolutely loved Leandro when he played for us. He was fun to watch on the court, and in interviews was a delight. He seems like such a genuinely sweet person, he's hard not to like.

While I'm in favor of the Suns jettisoning most of their veteran guys (i.e. Dudley and Gortat) for whatever they can get, I'd love it if they brought LB back. Barbosa's value has never been lower, and he can be had for under $2M a year I'm sure. LB always struck me as being wired a bit differently than most players. Most guys in his position would probably want to go be on the Heat next year, but I could see LB wanting to come home, serve as a mentor, etc.

Bringing back LB, and drafting this kid at 57 and letting LB continue to mentor him would be interesting and cool. It be a wrinkle that would make following the Suns next year through all the losses more palatable.

I'm such a fan of LBs, that this is the one of the few pieces of sports related stuff displayed in my home:

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[Joe Mama]

I absolutely loved Leandro when he played for us. He was fun to watch on the court, and in interviews was a delight. He seems like such a genuinely sweet person, he's hard not to like.

While I'm in favor of the Suns jettisoning most of their veteran guys (i.e. Dudley and Gortat) for whatever they can get, I'd love it if they brought LB back. Barbosa's value has never been lower, and he can be had for under $2M a year I'm sure. LB always struck me as being wired a bit differently than most players. Most guys in his position would probably want to go be on the Heat next year, but I could see LB wanting to come home, serve as a mentor, etc.

Bringing back LB, and drafting this kid at 57 and letting LB continue to mentor him would be interesting and cool. It be a wrinkle that would make following the Suns next year through all the losses more palatable.

I'm such a fan of LBs, that this is the one of the few pieces of sports related stuff displayed in my home:

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I think it really depends on who we draft, but I don't understand the idea of getting rid of somebody like Dudley. I would not move him unless we get something really good in return. He's a great team player and locker room guy, and he's under a fantastic contract for the next two years. You can't have an entire team of young, unproven players. You want guys like Dudley and Tucker around. Would love to keep Jermaine O'Neal around as well.

And as far as that Emilio guy goes that that that he doesn't know anything.

Joe

 

[elindholm]

Since when does someone become a great ball handler by training with Barbosa? I liked Barbosa, but ball handling was one of the weakest parts of his game.

 

[Griffin]

He is not on any mock drafts I've seen and is not ranked among top 100 prospects on DX. Unless his stock drastically rises in the next few weeks, he will likely go undrafted and would easily be available at the Suns #57 if the Suns see any potential there.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think it really depends on who we draft, but I don't understand the idea of getting rid of somebody like Dudley. I would not move him unless we get something really good in return. He's a great team player and locker room guy, and he's under a fantastic contract for the next two years. You can't have an entire team of young, unproven players. You want guys like Dudley and Tucker around. Would love to keep Jermaine O'Neal around as well.

And as far as that Emilio guy goes that that that he doesn't know anything.

Joe

Dudley is exactly the type of player you want to keep around for a young rebuilding team. He provides the right kind of leadership and mentoring without costing too much. That said, if you get a good offer for him you take it.

 

[SirStefan32]

He is not on any mock drafts I've seen and is not ranked among top 100 prospects on DX. Unless his stock drastically rises in the next few weeks, he will likely go undrafted and would easily be available at the Suns #57 if the Suns see any potential there.

Yeah, I'd hope they draft him in the second round and leave him with his current team for a couple of years. Draft and stash.

 

[slinslin]

The most important question is how old is this guy really, might be 27 already.

Also based on the videos and the picture above he does not look even close to Lebron in terms of Physique, also doesn't look anywhere near 245lbs.

 

[HooverDam]

I think it really depends on who we draft, but I don't understand the idea of getting rid of somebody like Dudley. I would not move him unless we get something really good in return. He's a great team player and locker room guy, and he's under a fantastic contract for the next two years. You can't have an entire team of young, unproven players. You want guys like Dudley and Tucker around. Would love to keep Jermaine O'Neal around as well.

And as far as that Emilio guy goes that that that he doesn't know anything.

Joe

I'm fine with keeping Dudley too. I just don't know if he wants to be here going through this mess. If some good team, say Indiana who has a terrible bench and needs helps, says they'll give you the #23 for Dudley, I say you take it.

It just depends on what you could get for him. I don't think the Suns have to trade him, but they should be fielding calls.

 

[Superbone]

I'm fine with keeping Dudley too. I just don't know if he wants to be here going through this mess. If some good team, say Indiana who has a terrible bench and needs helps, says they'll give you the #23 for Dudley, I say you take it.

It just depends on what you could get for him. I don't think the Suns have to trade him, but they should be fielding calls.

The number 23?! No way.

 

[slinslin]

I'm fine with keeping Dudley too. I just don't know if he wants to be here going through this mess. If some good team, say Indiana who has a terrible bench and needs helps, says they'll give you the #23 for Dudley, I say you take it.

It just depends on what you could get for him. I don't think the Suns have to trade him, but they should be fielding calls.

That's ridiculous, if Minnesota offered the #9 pick you would think about it.

#23 you wouldn't even pick up the phone that is just hilarious.

 

[HooverDam]

The number 23?! No way.

Or whatever. It was just an example, not meant to be taken so literally. Indiana was just on my mind at the moment.

Though it should be noted JD was taken #22 overall, so players of his ilk can be found in that range. Though obviously one in the hand is better than a mystery in the bush that is the NBA draft.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Or whatever. It was just an example, not meant to be taken so literally. Indiana was just on my mind at the moment.

Though it should be noted JD was taken #22 overall, so players of his ilk can be found in that range. Though obviously one in the hand is better than a mystery in the bush that is the NBA draft.

But from a pricing standpoint, that's rarely the case. If you could X-Ray a pack of trading cards, the vast majority of packs would instantly plummet in value. WIth Dudley you know what you're getting but that's also the negative. You know you're not getting anything more out of him than he's already shown (generally speaking) and he is coming off of a down year on a horrible team. I think your suggestion of 23 for him is reasonable. I'd probably rather keep him unless there is a real target left when 23 comes around but I don't think he'd bring much more in return even in this weak draft.

Steve

 

[Gaddabout]

Based on the video, I wouldn't call him an explosive athlete. He has more in common with Chuck Person than LeBron.

 

[Errntknght]

The most important question is how old is this guy really, might be 27 already.

Also based on the videos and the picture above he does not look even close to Lebron in terms of Physique, also doesn't look anywhere near 245lbs.

well, imagine this, a post from slin that I agree with.
The guy has a good body but I'd say 220 tops.
Hope we work him out and check him out, see what kind of draft pick we think he's worth.

I kind of hope he didn't learn defense from Barbs. His handle might not have been a thing of beauty but it was much better than his D.

 

[Errntknght]

Much as I like him, I'd trade Dudley for a draft pick that would net us Dieng... I've seen three mocks recently that had OKC snatching him up at 12, which is the team I thought of when I watched his DX draft video.

 

[sunsfan88]

But from a pricing standpoint, that's rarely the case. If you could X-Ray a pack of trading cards, the vast majority of packs would instantly plummet in value. WIth Dudley you know what you're getting but that's also the negative. You know you're not getting anything more out of him than he's already shown (generally speaking) and he is coming off of a down year on a horrible team. I think your suggestion of 23 for him is reasonable. I'd probably rather keep him unless there is a real target left when 23 comes around but I don't think he'd bring much more in return even in this weak draft.

Steve

To trade Dudley for a pick that's about the same pick as Dudley was drafted means that your saying Dudley only lived up to his draft selection. IMO Dudley, out played his draft selection...by A LOT.

JD is the classic "3 & D" guy with great hustle, good rebounder and a funny, good coachable player to have in the locker room.

He's worth at least a top 15 pick imo.

 

[Joe Mama]

Much as I like him, I'd trade Dudley for a draft pick that would net us Dieng... I've seen three mocks recently that had OKC snatching him up at 12, which is the team I thought of when I watched his DX draft video.

I wouldn't be surprised if when everything is said and done he goes higher than #12, but if it was guaranteed Dieng would be there I would probably do the same. That's how much I like Dieng.

Joe

 

[AzStevenCal]

To trade Dudley for a pick that's about the same pick as Dudley was drafted means that your saying Dudley only lived up to his draft selection. IMO Dudley, out played his draft selection...by A LOT.

JD is the classic "3 & D" guy with great hustle, good rebounder and a funny, good coachable player to have in the locker room.

He's worth at least a top 15 pick imo.

You're worth what you can get. If we were trading Dudley to sunsfan88 he'd be worth a top 15 pick but that doesn't mean he's worth that to any of the teams that actually have a top 15 pick available. Again, he's coming off a bad year on a horrible team. You could argue that he was our 5th best player last year and even if you want to ignore his horrible first couple of months, he was still no more than 3rd best. I don't think that screams top 15 to the rest of the league.

I think he brings more value to the team than your average number 15 selection but that doesn't mean he'll bring that in trade. If there's some team out there with a specific need for a great role player, he'd be an excellent choice for them but that's not usually the missing piece teams are searching for. There are a lot more Dudleys than there are superstars and most teams with top 15 picks are in need of more than a Dudley. IMO, if you really want a top 15 pick for Dudley, you have to trade him in season when teams might be targeting that specific need.

Steve