I think today both carry more value, but I also don’t think Denver would do the Mitchell deal straight up. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Murray’s value passes Mitchell’s. Ant is another thing entirely. I think he’s just cracking his potential and if he fully exercised it he’ll perennially be mentioned in the same breath with book and SGA as far as top SGs. So I think if you’re looking to win now you go with Murray, but if you look longterm you go ant.
I think both of those guys would be considered a star in any big 3.
True, SGA is another guy who has entered that conversation of "superstar" guards. I am just trying to determine rhetorically who gets placed in that very, very upper tier. If too many guys get rated as "Big 3 worthy," the categorization becomes kind of meaningless.
I’m not sure how Beal, who’s been chronically injured for a couple years and has seen his stats take a healthy fall to 23 ppg is considered worthy of a big 3 moniker but an Ant-Man, Murray or Mitchell wouldn’t be.
This was likely a bunch of PR but Book during media day said that he considered Beal the best SG in the league. I am sure this was pre-injury too but if Beal can stay healthy (which is a big if), it's possible.
Oh I have no problem with Beal being mentioned as part of a Big Three. I just think it’s really odd for Suns fans to give him that level of credit while questioning the same thing with Jamal Murray, Ant-Man and Mitchell.
Right? It’s not like Denver was/is loaded. They’ve got the best player in the league but they don’t tear through everyone else unless Jokic has a great number 2… which is what Murray is.
Sure, but I'm pretty ok with Beal also.
To me to qualify for big 3 they need to be top 50 players - so in my definition yes just about everyone you listed would would qualify. Klay is on the borderline to me.
I think I prefer Beal over Jrue. He is younger and his offense is top tier.
Ant Man and Mitchell absolutely are worthy.
He was the clear #2 on a team that won the championship. Mind-boggling how Murray doesn't get credit.
While being a flame thrower in his playoff history, helping the Nuggets to the WCF and then the Finals Championship in his last two appearances… with nothing even close to a #3 on that team. And without him, that team not only didn’t get close to those heights, it got its butt absolutely murdered by the Warriors in the first round and then one of the most embarassing sweeps of all time in the second round to us.
And he was SO good against us! We saw first-hand how good he was. He'll never be a #1 on a contender, but man if he isn't a really great second piece.
Right… and to be a member of a big 3, you don’t need to be a #1 on a contender. I mean, Beal’s never been close to that but we all agree he’s a star as third banana.
Personally I think the biggest fact supporting murray beings a legit part of a big 3 is the fact that both cheese and chap are quoting and supporting each in favor of him. That NEVER happens.
When was the last time cheese and I had a big drag out feud? I think it's been literally years, right? I think the last big feud I had with your family was with YOU!
When was the last time cheese and I had a big drag out feud? I think it's been literally years, right? I think the last big feud I had with your family was with YOU!
Funny enough, I thank a former President for allowing us to have common ground...
I KNEW that was coming!Thanks Obama!
Couldn't resist
Oh - sorry I was thinking you were referring to De'jontae Murray.
As I said in the previous post I was thinking Dejonte Murray, not Jamal, he slipped my mind somehow.
